Re: [time-nuts] GPIB Card

2008-10-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chri s Kuethe writes: You mean like this card? http://www.maxipub.com/electro/photos/dv488.jpg it could be a Metrabyte DV-488 ... or maybe an MBC-488 Most of these cards are 100% compatible with the original IBM GPIB ISA card, except possibly for the order of the

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime Time server NTS-100 Downconverter infowanted

2008-10-05 Thread Rob Kimberley
Don, Try Googling around to see if you can find the spec for the downconverter. We recently managed to get an old Odetics 325 working with a Meinberg antenna/converter unit. Have emailed you the Meinberg manual off list. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [time-nuts] GPIB Card

2008-10-05 Thread f5bqp_pfm
Hi, I believe you're talking about the ISA PCIIA GPIB cards, yes they where (still are I guess? ) supported under Linux under the Linux GPIB project. I was using few of these in the past. Windows ( at least 98 XP) doesn't recognise properly these PCIIA cards. 73's pf, F5BQP - Original

[time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, I have been having fun with my TBolt, and I am organising a power supply to run it off a 12 volt battery backed up power supply. I am making my own low headroom regulators, I assume it will perform better with precisely controlled supply voltages. What I need next is a monitor to show the

[time-nuts] HP 5061B - Beam Current

2008-10-05 Thread Jeffrey Okamitsu
I've spent a good deal of time this weekend working with the 5061B I recently acquired.   The unit appears to be making stable 10 MHz.  I've compared it the the Rubidium source I have and the two compare as expected.   There are two problems:   1) Beam current is low - even after going carefully

Re: [time-nuts] GPS, NTP, and Cisco routers...

2008-10-05 Thread Robert Vassar
It looks like the feature set varies significantly with the router model, and by IOS feature set. The router I have here is an eBay special, an old 2514. It's probably 10 years old, though I think Cisco continued to make them until about 2003. It's only configured with 8mb flash, so

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Didier Juges
Tell me what kind of signal you need to drive your clock, and I may be able to get what you need from the processor. Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neville Michie Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 6:34 AM To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] GPIB Card

2008-10-05 Thread Didier Juges
The NEC 7210 was the industry standard GPIB chip for over 20 years, I still have a few here. If you want the spec and can't find it, I probably have it here somewhere. Didier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Kirby Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] GPIB Card

2008-10-05 Thread f5bqp_pfm
Hi, If it looks like this one: http://www.measurementcomputing.com/pdfs/isa-gpib-pc2a.pdf then it could be a legacy ISA PC2IIA from NI or a compatible one. pf - Original Message - From: Didier Juges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5061B - Beam Current

2008-10-05 Thread Scott McGrath
Did you try the LF injection test? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Jeffrey Okamitsu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've spent a good deal of time this weekend working with the 5061B I recently acquired. The unit appears to be making stable 10 MHz. I've compared it the the Rubidium source I

Re: [time-nuts] 5061B info.

2008-10-05 Thread corby d dawson
Jeff, What is the 2nd harmonic meter reading? If it is too low you will not be able to get the operate light on. While watching the 2nd harmonic reading adjust the front panel beam I pot for a reading of 35 to 45. If pot is at max adjust the loop gain thru the front panel hole for the 35-45

Re: [time-nuts] Truetime Time server NTS-100 Downconverter infowanted

2008-10-05 Thread Scott McGrath
Second on the - be careful on what you buy BUT Symmetricom does sell the 'downconverter' for long cable runs - It's also cheap (relatively) as I recall on the order of $200-300 as we needed one for one of our installations which is machine room in basement antenna at top of 15 story building.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS, NTP, and Cisco routers...

2008-10-05 Thread Scott Mace
This runs on the aux port, and the sup720 doesn't have an aux port... There are always obscure features that slip into the production releases that aren't tested and they just forget to exclude them during builds. TAC will probably have no clue about this... You could try the cisco-nsp mailling

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 51, Issue 8

2008-10-05 Thread Murray Greenman
Steve, The suggestion of using the mains frequency as a reference is not practical. There will be no certainty, even after counting for a week that the mains frequency will give you a reliable reference. You said it yourself - the instantaneous frequency of the mains is not always spot on. The

[time-nuts] THUNBERBOLT PACKET 0X8F-AB

2008-10-05 Thread Hank
Ed Per your message : That would be the 'byte stuffing' inherent in TSIP packet structure. Packet 0X8F-AB is specified as being 17 bytes including the subcode ( 8F) Do you mean that you cant depend on that packet always being 17 bytes ? I'm getting 18 bytes only when the time has 16 seconds in

Re: [time-nuts] THUNBERBOLT PACKET 0X8F-AB

2008-10-05 Thread Hank
Ed, Got itFound the spec ! Thanks for the hint ! Hank The bytes in the data string can have any value. To prevent confusion with the frame sequences DLE ID and DLE ETX, every DLE byte in the data string is preceded by an extra DLE byte ('stuffing'). These extra DLE bytes must be

Re: [time-nuts] THUNBERBOLT PACKET 0X8F-AB

2008-10-05 Thread Hal Murray
If you cant depend on having a constant number of bytes ( as defined in the spec ) , how do you then decode it ? You have to do the de-stuffing before you check the length and decode the packet. It will be obvious after you see it. If the Trimble manual isn't good enough, google for

Re: [time-nuts] Time from power lines

2008-10-05 Thread Hal Murray
(I forgot what the subject of this thread was, but it's not time-nuts Digest) The suggestion of using the mains frequency as a reference is not practical. There will be no certainty, even after counting for a week that the mains frequency will give you a reliable reference. You said it

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
The clock displays are of two types. The analogue dials use alternate negative and positive pulses and are easily generated with a 0.5 Hz square wave signal. These dials are either slaves from master clock systems or a cheap quartz clock dial with leads to the driver coil. A totem pole

Re: [time-nuts] THUNBERBOLT PACKET 0X8F-AB

2008-10-05 Thread Didier Juges
Hank, You can look at the source code for my Tbolt Monitor to see how I dealt with that. The link to the source code is in my wiki page: http://www.ko4bb.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=precision_timing:gps_monitor Didier KO4BB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Didier Juges
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neville Michie Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 5:20 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor The clock displays are of two types. The

[time-nuts] Frequency Stability of Trimble Mini-T

2008-10-05 Thread Mike Feher
The attached URL is a 11 day plot of a 30.5 GHz carrier taken every minute by an Agilent 53152A microwave counter. The Mini-T has an ovenized oscillator. It appears that the GPS attempts to over correct the oscillator, hence the large frequency excursions. The real large excursions, around the 96

[time-nuts] Mains and TV 50Hz

2008-10-05 Thread Murray Greenman
Hal and others, I am sure that if one could accumulate mains cycles long enough, a reasonable level of accuracy could be obtained, but you need to ask yourself (1) to what standard is this 'reference' traceable, and (2) what happens if there is a power failure? On this latter point, let's say

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Neville Michie
Hi Didier, a time (GPS) and date display would be excellent, the only really useful enhancement might be a 60th second output, one pulse per minute. That would enable quite a few useful timing functions in conjunction with the PPS signal. Outputting the formatted time data may start to get

Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor

2008-10-05 Thread Didier Juges
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neville Michie Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 9:25 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt Monitor Hi Didier, a time (GPS) and date display