Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message f352a595feca451ca830d91215c7c...@apollo, David C. Partridge writ es: What is it for? I found nothing searching the archive, and Google didn't help much either. The Agilent site disclaimed all knowledge! One of the internal HP employee magazines (see hp-archive, probably Measure)

[time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread David C. Partridge
Subject says all Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-15 Thread Ulrich Bangert
Gents, I have already pointed to this paper http://ipnpr.jpl.nasa.gov/progress_report/42-121/121G.pdf for a number of times but appearantly it is still too less known or too less understood. Its appendix explains completely the necessary signal processing for frequency and phase extraction from a

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There's a couple of coupons running around for cheap SSL's. They are in the two meals at the burger joint per year range. I can forward the details off list if anybody needs them. I see no reason to spam the list with details of who and how much. Of course self signed certificates are

[time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin LVC 18?

2010-10-15 Thread Christian C. Gruber
Hi, out of curiosity I want to build a ntp timeserver. I can remember some epxerimets I carried out with a DCF77 receiver and a Cobalt Qube years ago, however this never really worked out. My plan is to buy a soekris net4501 (http://soekris.eu/shop/net4501/net4501_30_board_only_en.html)

Re: [time-nuts] SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Elio Corbolante
  1. Re: Febo.com SSL certificate expired to my knowledge you can get a free SSL certificates using: http://www.startssl.com/?app=0 http://www.startssl.com/?app=1 it is even recognized by Microsoft: http://www.istartedsomething.com/20091010/microsoft-free-root-certificate-authority-windows/

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-15 Thread jimlux
Ulrich Bangert wrote: Gents, I have already pointed to this paper http://ipnpr.jpl.nasa.gov/progress_report/42-121/121G.pdf for a number of times but appearantly it is still too less known or too less understood. Its appendix explains completely the necessary signal processing for frequency and

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-15 Thread Alan Melia
Hi I do not follow al the techniques in detail but a lot of work has been done on soundcard sampling rates in the low frequency amateur radio groups where GPS locking is used to extract very weak signals from the noise in very narrow band widths. It has been found that some of the supposed

[time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin LVC 18?

2010-10-15 Thread Mark Sims
Many...  but a lot boils down to the fact that the Tbolt is designed from the ground up to be a time (and frequency) source.  Its 1PPS output can be stable to within a few nanoseconds and the frequency to a few parts per trillion.  The Garmin 1PPS output is spec'd at 1 microsecond,  plus you

[time-nuts] Is $1500 for a Thunderbolt a bit too much?

2010-10-15 Thread Mark Sims
While checking on the current Tbolt prices,  I noticed some guy was selling a complete (receiver+antenna+supply) Trimble kit for $1500 plus shipping...  and two people have already bought them!  And these probably don't have the good oscillator.  Will wonders never cease? The next highest kit

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-15 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi David, I had one of these years ago. As others have said, its a UK 200kHz receiver. full of pot core transformers. I decided it was not worth the effort to convert it to 198kHz. In the end I put a OCXO and divider in the case. Robert G8RPI. --- On Thu, 14/10/10, David C. Partridge

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5090B

2010-10-15 Thread EWKehren
Many of the units showed up in the early 90's on the European surplus market when Droitwich switched to 198 KHz as part of a global frequency realignment plan. I bought one and tried to convert it to 60 KHz. Not much luck. Still have it some where, got spoiled by Loran C and still use my

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Jason Rabel
Why bother buying a cert? Just create a self-signed one (and you can make it for like 10+ years)... It's not like he's selling stuff from his website... ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin LVC 18?

2010-10-15 Thread Jason Rabel
Nothing wrong with wanting to use a Rb as the clock source for the board. I *almost* decided to go that route since I had a spare LPRO sitting around. But I realized that I would never need that long of hold-over so it would kind of be a waste. I've been looking at some cheap ($20 USD) 1PPM TCXO

Re: [time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin LVC 18?

2010-10-15 Thread ernieperes
Hi Jason, Have a look on ebay.280567398921. quite good TCXO. Rgds Ernie. -Original Message- From: Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Fri, Oct 15, 2010 9:10 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin

Re: [time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin LVC 18?

2010-10-15 Thread Jason Rabel
Actually I was planning on getting a 33.8688 MHz TCXO, apparently there's a few sellers with them because they are used for audiophiles in their CD players? That way I don't have to use a clock-block or other circuitry to get a usable frequency. Have a look on ebay.280567398921. quite

Re: [time-nuts] Is $1500 for a Thunderbolt a bit too much?

2010-10-15 Thread Jason Rabel
Sometimes when I see insanely high purchases for items when there are near-identical listings it makes me suspicious that perhaps the buyer was using a second account to make a fake purchase. Possibly to either add more positive ratings or maybe artificially make people think an item is worth

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It's a crazy world when it comes to self signed certs. You have at least 5 OS's you need to consider (MS, Linux/FBSD, OS-X, I-OS, Android). You need to think about both browsers and mail clients. Each of those come from a half dozen sources on each platform. Then you have configuration

Re: [time-nuts] Is $1500 for a Thunderbolt a bit too much?

2010-10-15 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Bert wrote: There is a second line Make Offer, maybe he sold three based on a reasonable offer. The purchase history indicates that the 2 sales were at $1500 and the seller has declined one offer and let 4 others expire. Note that the listing is for a Thunderbolt E and a full plug and

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/16/2010 12:08 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi It's a crazy world when it comes to self signed certs. You have at least 5 OS's you need to consider (MS, Linux/FBSD, OS-X, I-OS, Android). You need to think about both browsers and mail clients. Each of those come from a half dozen sources on each

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The issue is as much defective software as anything else. There simply aren't enough self signed situations out there to drive a problem up their solution list. The gotcha is the good old but my software works with everything else. May be easy to get around that with the technically

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
bJason Rabel said the following on 10/15/2010 03:00 PM: Why bother buying a cert? Just create a self-signed one (and you can make it for like 10+ years)... It's not like he's selling stuff from his website... And that's what the old cert was. I will create a new one as soon as I get a

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One example of self signed issues: Oct 15 19:57:16 vps postfix/smtpd[24030]: disconnect from localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1] Oct 15 19:57:16 vps amavis[20436]: (20436-10) Passed CLEAN, [173.163.57.9] [173.163.57.9] li...@rtty.us - j...@febo.com, Message-ID:

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/13/2010 12:58 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Controller cycling is often a result of one of two things: 1) Resistance in the power lead I think I can write this off. 2) Extra insulation / dead air I can write this one off too. 3) Internal controller issues Most likely the issue. It was

[time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I've regenerated the SSL certificate for HTTPS at febo.com. The new certificate should be good for ten years, as I intended (but failed to accomplish) when I created the old one. It's still a self-signed cert, so will throw a warning with your browser, but you can trust me and tell the

Re: [time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi https://febo.com returns This certificate is not valid (host name mismatch) under Safari Apparently by the bizarre rules of ssl wildcards - *.febo.com does not match feebo.com. I believe febo.com goes in the SubjectAltName field and *.febo.com stays in the CommonName field. Very

Re: [time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thanks, Bob. I'll see if I can regenerate it. The OpenSSL script doesn't prompt for a alternate name, so I'm not sure just how to get that field into it, but I'll mess around a bit. John On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi https://febo.com returns This

Re: [time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Never done one with OpenSSL myself so I'm not much help there. One nice thing about self signed - no charge to regenerate a new key Bob On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:41 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Thanks, Bob. I'll see if I can regenerate it. The OpenSSL script doesn't prompt for a

Re: [time-nuts] febo.com SSL certificate

2010-10-15 Thread Bill Hawkins
Ah, John, that's wonderful. A weekend without addressing any problems? I'd maim for that. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:20 PM snip I'm traveling over the weekend so won't be able to address any problems, but if anyone has

Re: [time-nuts] Discipline a rubidium driven net4501 with a Garmin LVC 18?

2010-10-15 Thread Hal Murray
Search for RUBIDIUM and you will also find a guy selling a divider card that takes the LPRO output and generates several clocks,  including 1 Hz...  cheaper and more versatile than the FATPPS A 1 Hz clock derived from a rubidium isn't synchronized to UTC second ticks. The PPS pulse out of a

Re: [time-nuts] Is $1500 for a Thunderbolt a bit too much?

2010-10-15 Thread Max Robinson
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Re: [time-nuts] Is $1500 for a Thunderbolt a bit too much?

2010-10-15 Thread Max Robinson
Sorry for the blank message. Think I clicked the wrong button. Isn't anybody going to point out the elephant standing in the middle of the room? Jason wrote. While checking on the current Tbolt prices, I noticed some guy was selling a complete (receiver+antenna+supply) Trimble kit for

Re: [time-nuts] Is $1500 for a Thunderbolt a bit too much?

2010-10-15 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Max wrote: The next highest kit was $250, If 250 is higher than 1500 then I must have forgotten something I learned in school. Your math is fine -- it's English usage that you seem to have forgotten. Next highest -- i.e., highest but for the one that was initially identified as the