Re: [time-nuts] Clock level conversion 5V - 3.3V

2014-10-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, so it’s not a super duper low phase noise OCXO. It’s also at a reasonably high frequency. I’d just drive it into a 5V tolerant input and move on. There are lots of logic gate chips out there that will run from 3.3 and accept 5V inputs. Use something reasonably fast and it will do a

Re: [time-nuts] Clock level conversion 5V - 3.3V

2014-10-01 Thread Vasco Soares
Hi, More than a matter of personal taste avoiding a resistive divider using a active circuit you could benefit from its low output impedance. With a resistive divider there could be some issues in terms of impedance matching when a load it is present but as been said it all depends on how

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-01 Thread Chuck Harris
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[time-nuts] How long do ovens take to cool to ambient after power is removed?

2014-10-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
Following on from my question the other day about the type of oscillator in the HP 8720D VNA, I finally got around to setting this up on the spectrum analyzer today. Luckily, some software I wrote back in 2008 for a friends HP 7 system was easy to modify to grab the save the frequency. So I

Re: [time-nuts] How long do ovens take to cool to ambient after power is removed?

2014-10-01 Thread Tim Shoppa
Typical 10811 warm-up time is circa 10 minutes; cool-down time is actually several times longer (since there is no active cool-downer in the case!) More modern, smaller OCXO's will warm up and cool down more quickly. If it's a double oven or user has added extra insulation around the basic OCXO,

[time-nuts] Measurement of frequency of HP 8720D option 1D5 oscillator after switch on

2014-10-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
Further to my question the other day about what type of oscillator was used in the HP 8720D VNA, fitted with the high stability oscillator option (1D5), here is the frequency as the instrument is switched on, after being powered off for 2-3 hours. The oscillator appears to start too high in

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-01 Thread Scott McGrath
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Re: [time-nuts] How long do ovens take to cool to ambient after power is removed?

2014-10-01 Thread Hal Murray
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk said: Anyway, later today (tomorrow ??) I will post a plot of frequency vs time. The question is though, how long is thing thing likely to take too cool? I'd expect an exponential decay so you need to specify how close to ambient you want to get. I'd guess a

Re: [time-nuts] Clock level conversion 5V - 3.3V

2014-10-01 Thread Andy
If it were me, I'd avoid the active buffers since there is no need for them when going from higher to lower voltage swings. The output of a buffer/inverter is guaranteed to be at least a little less clean than what you started with. First, check to see if the 5V output really is a 5V signal. If

Re: [time-nuts] Warm-up of HP 8720D option 1D5 oscillator

2014-10-01 Thread Charles Steinmetz
David wrote: here is the frequency as the instrument is switched on, after being powered off for 2-3 hours. The oscillator appears to start too high in frequency, overshoots downwards, then settles down. That is a typical warmup profile for an ovenized AT-cut crystal (OCXO with AT-cut

Re: [time-nuts] Clock level conversion 5V - 3.3V

2014-10-01 Thread Mike Feher
About 8 or 9 years ago my HP active 2 way GPS smart splitter died. After taking off the cover, and some troubleshooting, I found that the 5 volt to 3.3 volt regulator was open. Since it was an SMD device, and I did not have a replacement, I just cut the device out, and, using a small piece of

Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-01 Thread Didier Juges
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Re: [time-nuts] KO4BB.com

2014-10-01 Thread Didier Juges
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Re: [time-nuts] How long do ovens take to cool to ambient after power is removed?

2014-10-01 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 10/1/2014 1:04 PM, Hal Murray wrote: drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk said: Anyway, later today (tomorrow ??) I will post a plot of frequency vs time. The question is though, how long is thing thing likely to take too cool? I'd expect an exponential decay so you need to specify how close to

Re: [time-nuts] How long do ovens take to cool to ambient after power is removed?

2014-10-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
I'd expect an exponential decay so you need to specify how close to ambient you want to get. I'd guess a ballpark of 10x the warm up rate. You can probably measure it if you have the warmup graph. Turn it off, wait a while, turn it on, measure the freq, consult warmup graph. Some older