Re: [time-nuts] Divider circuit for Rubidium Standard

2015-05-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 5/8/2015 2:19 PM, Bob Camp wrote: On May 7, 2015, at 11:09 AM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: On Wed, 06 May 2015 18:09:03 -0700 Richard (Rick) Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote: A standard input on a frequency counter is not a very demanding thing in the hierarchy of

Re: [time-nuts] TymServe 2100 was: The GPS 1995 problem and the Heol Design solution.

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Camp
HI I’d bet that the ACE is supplying full time / date info to the TS2100. That’s what every module I’ve seen does. No reason to play with the GPS weeks if you don’t have to. Use the date from the receiver. Assuming that’s correct. You have a lot more to do than flip one bit in at one point

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Neil Schroeder
A bc635 can be had on eBay for almost nothing. It's not a pleasant piece of gear, but this is one task it can help you with greatly. Tools exist to let you analyse the stream extensively, and the Api is trivial to learn -but not super featured at the high level. On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Tim

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Esa Heikkinen
Joseph Gwinn kirjoitti: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence of noise? (I asked on the NTP group, with little result beyond the C/C++ decoder software written for the audio channel of a 1990s Sun

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The gotcha is that the GPS numbers are related to a geoid model and not to sea level. You can indeed find points that are “underwater” based on the geoid, but quite dry in real life (and vice-versa). Bob On May 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Demian Martin demianm@gmail.com wrote: I would

Re: [time-nuts] iGPS?

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The Iridium frequencies are even further “up band” than the Glonass signals. None of the “GPS” antennas that I have tried work very well on Glonass. I doubt they would do well at all trying to get Iridium. Bob On May 19, 2015, at 1:57 AM, David I. Emery d...@dieconsulting.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] TimeLab and Wine: was Re: New 5370A

2015-05-19 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Bob, I just got back from my son's commencement ceremony, and finally have a little time to maybe give a few pointers. First, safety prevents one from trying to run too many different applications within a given wine sandbox (aka bottle). It is best to give each application its own sandbox,

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Height Error

2015-05-19 Thread Brian Inglis
If it's not a reporting error as below, you could be getting signal bounce, making it look as if your antenna is underwater, andreducing the time accuracy - you could try bumping your elevation mask by 5 degrees, to see ifyour position improves. On 2015-05-19 13:45, Dave Martindale wrote: Which

Re: [time-nuts] iGPS?

2015-05-19 Thread Hal Murray
jim...@earthlink.net said: Why iridium? Why not Sirius or XM or DBS. What's the signal strength at the surface of the Earth? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] iGPS?

2015-05-19 Thread David I. Emery
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:52:03PM -0700, Jim Lux wrote: Why iridium? Why not Sirius or XM or DBS. Unless you want something world wide, as opposed to populated areas served by broadcast radio and TV Well it seems to me I remember Iridium is time domain duplex around 1610 MHz or

Re: [time-nuts] iGPS?

2015-05-19 Thread DaveH
Have you seen the orbit of the Sirius satellites? http://www.tiger-usa.com/satellite_animation.htm Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 21:52 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-19 Thread Demian Martin
I would buy that (Google Maps being off) except that I'm less than 2 miles from the SF bay and -5M would have me underwater. That may well happen but not for a few years at least. Also the Arbiter does match Google maps pretty closely. It doesn't really matter a lot, just a curiosity.

[time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Joseph Gwinn
I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence of noise? (I asked on the NTP group, with little result beyond the C/C++ decoder software written for the audio channel of a 1990s Sun workstation, which it ate

Re: [time-nuts] iGPS?

2015-05-19 Thread Scott McGrath
Not necessarily, you are assuming a single large jammer you could easily disperse a large number of small narrowband jammers over an area you wanted to deny GPS coverage to via airdrops or artillery and that would effectively deny coverage and make it almost impossible to suppress all the

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Joe, On 05/19/2015 03:51 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad approaches, especially in the presence of noise? (I asked on the NTP group, with little result beyond the C/C++ decoder software written for the audio

Re: [time-nuts] IRIG-B audio decoder circuits and ICs sought

2015-05-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
See for example the Truetime 820 decoder. Discriminators, One-shots, and Flip-Flops with pots to tweak the levels. Tim N3QE On Tuesday, May 19, 2015, Joseph Gwinn joegw...@comcast.net wrote: I'm studying up on how IRIG-B decoder circuits work. What are the good approaches, the bad

[time-nuts] HP 8620 A B or C Mainframe

2015-05-19 Thread cdelect
Hi everyone, I'm looking for the enclosure, top and bottom panels and inside frames from an HP 8620 A,B, or C. Can be gutted, and all the goodies removed from the front panel. I just need the frame and outsides for a project. (rear heatsink intact if possible.) Anybody have a gutted one I can

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-19 Thread Dave Martindale
Which altitude do you have the Thunderbolt set up to report? If you have the datum set to WGS-84, the Thunderbolt can report either HAE (height above ellipsoid) or MSL (height above the geoid model) in its serial output. The choice is controlled by bit 2 of byte 0 of the 0x35 command packet.

[time-nuts] Counter Clock freq lock advice

2015-05-19 Thread lstoskopf
Back from Dayton and found in my mailbox a PLJ-9VFD-A9 digit frequency counter block. Fresh from eBay. Very nice piece of gear for about $20. It has a 13 MHz voltage controlled time base marked 1300446 TW 499K. Pin out seems standard and the Voltage Control on pin 1 simply goes to a (I