Hi

The gotcha is that the GPS numbers are related to a geoid model and not to sea 
level. 
You can indeed find points that are “underwater” based on the geoid, but quite 
dry in 
real life (and vice-versa). 

Bob
> On May 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Demian Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I would buy that (Google Maps being off) except that I'm less than 2 miles 
> from the SF bay and -5M would have me underwater. That may well happen but 
> not for a few years at least. Also the Arbiter does match Google maps pretty 
> closely. It doesn't really matter a lot, just a curiosity.
>     Demian
> 
>> Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:12:58 -0400
>> From: Bob Camp <[email protected]>
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
>       <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Height Error
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> 
>> Hi
> 
>> The simple answer is that Google maps may or may not be correct. There are a 
>> lot 
>> of examples of them being off by 10M or more. That said, my *guess* would be 
>> that the 
>> Thunderbolt is closer to the truth.
> 
>> Bob
> 
>> On May 18, 2015, at 2:34 AM, Demian Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I have 2 GPSDO's. A Thunderbolt and an Arbiter 1083A. The Arbiter is old but
>> it works fine (and has a Wenzel 5 MHz streamline oscillator in it). It has
>> the 1995 firmware issue, and I could get new firmware for it ($$) but I'm
>> not using it as a clock, just a frequency source.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just moved and have re-setup both. They share an antenna. I got both to do
>> a self survey. The Arbiter was really close to what Google maps indicate is
>> my location. The Thunderbolt was about the same except it has me
>> underground. The arbiter has the height as +30M. The Thunderbolt as -6M.
>> What setting do I have wrong in the Thunderbolt? Would it affect the
>> operation as a frequency standard in any way?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Demian Martin
>> 
>> San Leandro, CA 94577
> 
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