At least with this method at any time you can always work out when t=0
is. With other events (eg supernova) you can't.
On Saturday, October 30, 2010, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:
These pulsars have different rates. Could one use the relative timing of
two or three pulsars? that
Neville,
The Time of Arrival error for the millisecond pulsar J0437-4715 is about 11
nsec. This takes into account the location of the pulsar, the solar system's
barycentre, the earth's (perturbed) orbit around that barycentre and not to
mention the interstellar medium that the pulse has to
at Parkes.
Jim Palfreyman
On Tuesday, October 5, 2010, Reeves Paul paul.ree...@uk.thalesgroup.com wrote:
Receiving setup - pretty standard amateur eme/radio astromony kit, good
antenna, LNA, downconverter. Antenna choice depends on frequency, pulsars
are broadband but generally 300 MHz to as many GHz
.
The magnet when applied either reduces or increases the amplitude and
hence makes minor adjustments in timing.
Pretty neat for 40s technology.
Jim Palfreyman
On Sunday, August 8, 2010, Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have a Seimens master clock with a Reiffler pendulum
detect tidal forces.
Jim Palfreyman
On Sunday, August 8, 2010, Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/08/2010, mike cook mike.c...@orange.fr wrote:
Check out Bryan Mumfords page.
http://www.bmumford.com/clocks/em2/index.html
I did not want to kick the pendulum with a pulse each swing
rubidium driven
microcontroller.
While I organise that I'll turn off the electromagnet and see if I can pick
up the tides.
Regards,
Jim Palfreyman
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this. Software side is
not a problem.
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I picked up an old black bakelite phone in an antique shop and have it
nicely on display on a table. I have wired it through to my workshop
where it is connected to the old Australian speaking clock (sync'ed to
the GPS of course).
So when you pick up the phone you hear: At the third stroke it
since 1900.
The variations you see can mostly be attributed to diurnal atmospheric
changes and the high jitter in the TAC unit itself.
Jim Palfreyman
Tasmania
Australia
Hi all,
did anybody out there observe any disturbances in his clocks
during (and/or
before or after
Hi, just found a handy free iPhone app called Emerald Time. It uses
ntp and visually shows the time to within 100 msec. I've videod the
screen and compared it with a real clock and found the claim to be
accurate.
Certainly not up to nut standard, but for a mobile phone it's great.
Jim Palfreyman
Hi,
The 1194 time service in Australia is one second fast. I'm ringing
from Hobart - can anyone else in Australia confirm?
Jim
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Don't forget pulsars in this. Some of them rival atomic clocks and
they are a long way away and still line up nicely with our hydrogen
masers synchronized to caesium standards.
Jim Palfreyman
On Saturday, June 12, 2010, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote:
At 10:46 AM 6/11/2010, iov...@inwind.it
we can expect long term too?
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be good, but it would also be handy to
have contacts for down the track. These are newly installed.
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We still use it at the observatory.
For example, my object of interest is up between 0h and 17h LMST and a quick
glance at the sideral clock let's me know where I am.
Jim
2010/1/15 Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz
Before the advent of automated telescopes that can point to an object
For the Down Under nuts,
The ABC radio time signals in Hobart are one second out. Is it a national
thing? Can others in the country check?
I rang the ABC locally on xmas eve but it is still not fixed.
Jim Palfreyman
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2010/1/3 Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com
Other delays I've noticed here the Tivo adds a few seconds delay which puts
the clocks on the morning TV shows slow. And the radio talk shows don't
allow for the censor delay
And started down the dark path you have. You will not have to wait
long before you completely succumb to the dark side.
Jim Palfreyman
2009/12/28 Bob Camp li...@cq.nu:
Hi
Your budget is going to make things tough.
A Thunderbolt needs a triple supply (+12, -12, and +5) to operate. It also
Here in the Land Down Under xmas is done and dusted and I'm ready for bed!
Jim Palfreyman
2009/12/25 Rob Kimberley r...@timing-consultants.com:
Happy Christmas to all you Time Nuts out there.
A beautiful sunny morning up here in the Staffordshire Moorlands (UK), and
lots of snow.
Cheers
) alternatives?
Regards,
Jim Palfreyman
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It depends on where you live. If your latitude is 30 deg or greater
it's fantastic. But I concede in the tropics it's not that useful.
It's divided us here in Australia because we cover such a large range
of latitudes. I'd presume it's the same in the US. At -43 deg S I
wouldn't be without it -
is accurate to 1 second every century or two. Not
time-nut grade, but certainly halfway decent.
Jim Palfreyman
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Or current ones.
;-)
2009/10/8 A.H.Schmidt hor...@iinet.net.au:
The rest is at home in the sheds of ex Telstra employees
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I'm in Hobart Tasmania. I have an original Telstra Speaking Clock and
a Seimens mechanical time standard that was used years prior to that.
I'm also back at Uni doing research on pulsars and so get to play with
hydrogen masers and the radio telescope at the observatory.
Jim Palfreyman
2009/10/8
Now I have an enourmous respect for Murray - one of the cleverest
people I know, but this time he has shot himself in the foot.
The water does not go down the plug hole differently - that is an
urban legend. Any difference in direction in a household sink has more
to do with residual circular
ambiguity. I would encourage
all time-nuts to use the same system because it is completely
unambiguous and can be used wordwide.
Jim Palfreyman
2009/10/8 Nic McLean mcle...@bigpond.com:
I hope there aren't any timenuts in North Queensland. There is a Tsunami
warning issued at 09:44 EDT today
Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com:
Hmmm. I'm in a pedantic mood today, but I think this is worth raising.
09:44 EDT - what is that?
I'm presuming Nic (emailing from bigpond and presumably in Australia)
means Eastern Daylight Time which I assume he means Eastern Standard
Time + 1 hour
I've done this with two separate GPS units. One was a basic unit with
no maps - more designed for bushwalking, boating and other direct
navigation. It worked really well.
Just recently (a few days ago) flying to Perth I used my car-designed
Navman. It locked easily and I chuckled as it rapidly
Hi All,
I live in Hobart, Tasmania which has low level of thunderstorms -
average 2 thunder-days a year. However recently we've had a few and
I've begun to think about my GPS antenna on the roof on top of my TV
antenna.
A bolt on that could take out not only my plasma tv but potentially an
awful
Hello Sailor!
2009/9/8 Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com:
At least the cesium ions don't have to travel through a maze of twisty
passages, all alike...
Oh Plugh!
_
With Windows Live, you
OBTW, I would be able to help you more, but Scott McGrath borrowed my manual
for scanning, never finished scanning the schematics, and seems to be intent
on keeping it. I hope he proves me wrong, and does the right thing.
Ouch!!
Scott?
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Well these two bidders are one (outback6). And I bet they are not a
time-nut. He/she is a power seller with 23468 transactions. Their
store is full of expensive equipment like scanning electron
microscopes and they buy and sell lots of stuff. My guess is their
plan is to buy these oscillators in
blush You are correct. I'll take it all back.
Must have been the broken night's sleep last night...
Duh.
2009/8/31 Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com:
At 12:28 AM 8/31/2009, Jim Palfreyman wrote...
Well these two bidders are one (outback6)... My guess is their
plan is to buy these oscillators
Did the google thing. Got Royal Children's Hospital. Found nothing in
the first two pages. Gave up. Emailed time-nuts. Of course it was on
the third page.
Never thought to type it into wikipedia...
Thanks to all who have helped!
Jim
2009/8/20 Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net:
Can someone
Maybe google australia does it differently?
2009/8/20 Bob Martinson remartin...@rcn.com:
Strange, its the first item on my Google of rch note, no caps no
quotes.
REM
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is 100mx100m. Very easy to visualise, work with
and convert.
Jim Palfreyman
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I don't know how you guys put up with such a complicated system.
Especially when Jefferson, Washington and Franklin played such a big
part in the invention of the metric system.
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2009/8/20 Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com:
Alas, yes, the RCH is no longer politically correct. It's slightly more
acceptable cousin is now the RPH.
This must be a cultural thing.
Can someone please put me out of my misery and tell me what these stand for?
If it really is *that* crude feel
Be warned - I could never get it going with my 5370B - the only unit I
needed it for!
The guy tried to be helpful but since he didn't have a 5370B he
couldn't do much.
Jim
2009/8/18 gonzo moto cadbl...@hotmail.com:
From: John Green wpxs...@gmail.com
Subject: [time-nuts] How do you
So what's the cheapest GPIB/USB (or GPIB/serial) card that will work
with my 5370B?
Jim Palfreyman
2009/8/18 Brian Kirby kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com:
Be advised that the Softmark card does not work with all GPIB instruments.
It appears to only work if the instrument can talk SCPI.
Brian Kirby
I have the one for serial prefix 1908A - this may be the same as
Didier's. If not, and you want it, email me and I'll send it to you.
Regards,
Jim Palfreyman
2009/8/16 Brian Kirby kilodelta4foxm...@gmail.com:
Mine is the 10811-60109.serial number prefix is 2432.
Bought the unit
Hi Folks,
If you had a hydrogen maser outputting 5Mz and 1 PPS and needed to
distribute 5MHz, 10MHz and 1PPS throughout a radio observatory, what
would be the current brand (or brands) of state of the art equipment
to get?
Thanks,
Jim
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Well one of my old 5245L devices submitted to organ donation. After
opening it up I found many many transistors.
None of which were the 1854-0003.
Are you sure that's what you have?
Regards,
Jim
Jim, the 1854-0003 is a pretty common HP part in older eqpt. If you have
junked 5245L counter
with appropriate leads.
The to220 should fit under one of the old mounting screws? one direction
will give the base and emitter connections properly.
Don
Jim Palfreyman
Thanks for that! - I do have a number of the 5254L units and one of
them is now being eyed off for organ donation. So thanks to all
on top with appropriate
leads.
The to220 should fit under one of the old mounting screws? one
direction
will give the base and emitter connections properly.
Don
Jim Palfreyman
Thanks for that! - I do have a number of the 5254L units and one of
them is now being eyed off for organ donation
?
Regards and thanks to all!
Jim Palfreyman
Jim, the 1854-0003 is a pretty common HP part in older eqpt. ?If you
have
junked 5245L counter handy, it's full of them, especially in the decade
counter PCBs. ?If you don't have one handy, I have an assembly here with
8
of them on it. ?If you like, I
hanging around that want to take what I have?
Regards and thanks to all!
Jim Palfreyman
2009/8/9 Adrian rfn...@arcor.de:
Re-read Jim's posts.
To me it seems clear that he is talking about the 2N1701 Q3 in the upper
right corner of fig. 5-12.
He mentioned that +18 measures high, around 26V
?
Regards and thanks to all!
Jim Palfreyman
Jim, the 1854-0003 is a pretty common HP part in older eqpt. If you have
junked 5245L counter handy, it's full of them, especially in the decade
counter PCBs. If you don't have one handy, I have an assembly here with 8
of them on it. If you like
2009/8/7 David C. Partridge david.partri...@dsl.pipex.com:
I'c curious, what is so strange about the pass xistor in the PSU that you
can't replace it?
Getting one.
So far I've found places with $300 minimum buys.
However, as I write I can get one for $30 including postage to
Australia. Still
OK folks, I've rechecked the voltages and here's the details.
Firstly, changing the oven temperature screw was a mistake. Read a
previous thread to see why I did it. It was logical given my
experience with 10811 ovens. I've owned up to it and begged
forgiveness from the great Flying Spaghetti
As has been pointed out, my post intended for the group didn't reach
it. It is answering the question as to WHY I fiddled with the oven
temperature. Here it is:
Well I can give you an answer - but it doesn't change anything :-)
Oh great flying spaghetti monster, forgive me
and how is this worked out?
In all this, keep in mind my power rails are running a few volts high
and I'm not sure the effect this is having in the oven.
Regards,
Jim Palfreyman
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OK, I'm puzzled. Can someone with a good knowledge of OCXOs explain my
observation. This is my HP 106B double ovened quartz oscillator, but
I'm sure the theory applies generally.
It's easiest to show these observations as made-up but approximate
numbers an hour apart. Say the device is set to
Sorry, don't get ledged. What do you mean?
Jim
2009/8/4 iov...@inwind.it iov...@inwind.it
The reason that was known to me is that at 10:10 the manufacturer's logo
looks like ledged.
Antonio I8IOV
Excuse me for asking a non-hardware question, but I'd like to know
the origins of the time
the front top of the unit but
facing backwards. I'd like to know what this does.
Regards,
Jim
2009/7/30 Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com
Hi Stan,
No I've had no luck at all!
How big are the 106B manuals (in pages)?
Is it feasible to get them scanned? I know I could do it - but Australia
Does anyone know where I might get hold of one of these manuals? (I've
looked in the usual places) I have one of these devices and it needs a bit
of work.
Regards,
Jim
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106B.
2009/7/29 J. L. Trantham jlt...@worldnet.att.net
106B or 105B?
Joe
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John,
I had the same problem from Australia. And when they did ship the postage
would be more than the unit! I had to wait and wait and wait. Finally (after
years) a good seller who packed well, priced well put one up and I won.
Even if no one takes up your offer - if you do wait one will turn
All,
Can you please follow John's instructions and stay on topic.
All this new age pseudo-science talk of crystal orientations and g
sensitivity does not belong in this group.
Thank you.
Jim
2009/7/9 Robert Atkinson robert8...@yahoo.co.uk
Hi Antonio,
Have a look at
the appropriate choices.
H,
maybe that is why it is called Timenuts list ? A place for Bruce to drive
you
nuts time and time again.
Who would have thought ?
BillWB6BNQ
The point being that
Jim Palfreyman wrote:
All,
Can you please follow John's instructions and stay
Nice little unit and *great* value for money. My power supply (from the
group buy) died - but that's another issue completely. The unit itself I
have no complaints about.
However, if you have plenty of money and want to go more up market try a CNS
Mark II:
I'm curious - why change hide the http?
2009/5/28 Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com
PDF here : hxxp://www.hparchive.com/Manuals/HP-3320AB-Manual.pdf (change
xx to tt).
Stanley
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I meant:
Why hide the http?
2009/5/28 Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com
I'm curious - why change hide the http?
2009/5/28 Stanley Reynolds stanley_reyno...@yahoo.com
PDF here : hxxp://www.hparchive.com/Manuals/HP-3320AB-Manual.pdf (change
xx to tt).
Stanley
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I came home one day to find *that* smell in my workshop. It turned out to be
my HP 3325B. It had been on for ages and it had also been a warm day. I
looked at the back and found the intake completely blocked up with dust.
It seems to still work, but I need to open it right up and check it out
I have a 5370B and love it.
It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but what
it can do - especially given its vintage - makes it a perfect unit for my
rack!
And the manual (plus people here) make it really great if there are ever any
problems.
Don't underestimate the
have yet to
assess it completely - is the 5370B much superior ? The facilities on the
5335A seem to be similar.
Roy
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No I haven't. What does this mod do?
2009/5/20 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Jim Palfreyman skrev:
I have a 5370B and love it.
It's big, and postage to Australia was as much as the unit itself, but
what
it can do - especially given its vintage - makes it a perfect unit
Now he has some time (hah!) on his hands...get him to join our group!!
2009/5/20 John Miles jmi...@pop.net
Not to mention his work with the 5345A, another perennial favorite around
here. /raises beer
-- john, KE5FX
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear.
I have some lead. Only $450/kg and will help improve the boundary layers
between your epithelial cells and your red blood cells. The beauty of it is
also that its effects are cumulative. So as time goes on the less you need
to buy!
As a special for the time-nuts list
Damn I would love to go to that. But the US$1900 would be cheap bikkies
compared to my airfare and accommodation!
2009/4/10 Skip Withrow swith...@idcomm.com
Hello Time Nuts,
I recently became aware of the NIST Time Frequency Seminar coming up
shortly and looked it up as it sounded
Hi Folks,
Blatant advertising spam here.
I'm on the 100 hours of astronomy webcast. I will be broadcasting from the
University of Tasmania's radio telescope in Australia. It begins at 0100 UT.
I'll be briefly discussing my pulsar observations.
Go to http://100hoursofastronomy.org/ to check it
In Australia, each state or territory defines its own time. I've scanned the
Australian legal database and found bills for all states and territories
defining time relative to UTC.
So you can put the whole of Australia definitely in the UTC pile.
Jim
2009/3/18 Magnus Danielson
Well I for one am going to wade in and support this magazine.
I think it does an excellent job in presenting week after week the
discoveries in science. In fact it is sometimes hard to keep up with them.
They reference their sources so you can go in-depth if need be and generally
do an excellent
Excellent.
I shall get the observatory to move their hydrogen masers onto a board on
drink cans immediately.
Jim
2009/3/10 Max Robinson m...@maxsmusicplace.com
Hal Murray wrote.
Sounds like good science fair bait. Are there similar demos? Can you get
two tuning forks to beat if held next
Has anyone here watched Big Bang Theory?
I think it's one of the cleverest sitcoms ever to come out of the US.
The science in it is accurate - verified by a university professor.
I just love it.
Any other comments?
Jim
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Well, you never know
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Subject: [time-nuts] Big bang theory
Has
Yep US tv sitcom on CBS. But I looked that up since I'm in Australia.
2009/3/4 Rex r...@sonic.net
Jim Palfreyman wrote:
Has anyone here watched Big Bang Theory?
I think it's one of the cleverest sitcoms ever to come out of the US.
The science in it is accurate - verified
So if I set my GPS locked 3325B to 1Hz (sine wave) and put that into my MK
subwoofer and sat that next to my pendulum clock (with its ~1m long Reifler
pendulum) it should keep perfect time.
Beauty!
2009/3/5 Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com
mechanical, more of a hybrid, but I don't know how
As a self confessed pi nut I shall pass on three pieces of trivia.
First, I can recite it to 250 decimal places. Not earth shattering but a
cool party trick.
Second, many years ago I wrote a program to work it out to a million places,
printed it out and had it professionally bound. It sits on my
All those lengths and temperatures in some weird old fashioned measuring
system make my head spin.
2009/3/2 Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net
Group,
My GPS time system consists of two Z3801A receivers with two HP cone
antennas.
I built a mast from plastic pipe (6 base to 2 arms) that is about 16
Hi folks,
Well I woke up the other morning at 2am to find all the power off in the
house. I was about to ring the power company and thought I'd better check my
meter box. Turns out one of the RCDs had tripped. I reset it and all was
fine.
What puzzled me was what tripped it. It took out my
I have a speaking clock from Australia in my possession and it handles the
leap second. I plan to photograph its display.
2008/12/29 Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org
Poul-Henning Kamp skrev:
In message 4958746c.9040...@erols.com, Chuck Harris writes:
Jim Palfreyman wrote:
I
I suppose it's nuts is it to want to live in a society where there a very
few guns available, where ordinary people don't carry them and people can't
be shot and killed in a quick fit of anger over something trivial.
I like living in a society like that and I find it objectionable to be
called a
2008/11/29 Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 01:30 AM 11/29/2008, Tom Van Baak wrote...
Note also that clocks at NIST run about 1.8e-13 fast due to the high
elevation of Boulder, CO (general relativity), which is yet another
factor that has to be corrected for compared to the official sea-level
Only this group will understand and suffer with this news...
Our observatory has recently had three Russian hydrogen masers arrive (along
with some Russians to install them).
It turns out that one of the masers had a rough trip from Russia to
Australia.
It looks like the entire shipping case
If the Earth were a snooker ball you would not be able to tell it is not a
sphere...
2008/10/27 Magnus Danielson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lux, James P wrote:
On 10/26/08 9:45 AM, Burt I. Weiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Except for the flat or pointy places.
Burt, K6OQK
At 05:00 AM
This discussion has come at an interesting time.
I've hooked up an LPRO-101 from ebay to an AVR micro-controller - basically
using it to clock the processor directly.
I've written code so the AVR is a clock and I've been comparing my clock's 1
PPS to the GPS.
Over a few minutes it hops back and
://www.precisionclock.com
http://www.prc68.com/I/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Web Cam
Jim Palfreyman wrote:
This discussion has come at an interesting time.
I've hooked up an LPRO-101 from ebay to an AVR micro-controller -
basically
using it to clock the processor directly.
I've written
If the jumps are caused by gravitational effects, it should be
similarly possible to design the filter the be less prone to these
affects by the orientation of the xtals.
If the jumps were caused by gravitational effects there's a whole bunch of
physicists trying to detect gravitational waves
I like it. When is it ready?
Jim
2008/10/22 Javier Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear nuts,
Sorry for this posting, only indirectly related to timing. For a long time
I've been toying with the idea of a web-based Open Hardware Repository, and
now it looks like we could allocate some resources
Rex,
This city is one of the most dense in the world with regard to population.
And maybe it might be hard to imagine for some, but cars are not the main
form of transport.
Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai#Transport for a summary.
Regards,
Jim
2008/10/20 Rex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I
Hi Neville,
There are a few inaccuracies in your summary but the figure you want for
J2000.0 is 365.242 190 419 SI days=31556925.252202 SI seconds. However we
cannot give you an average over the next 200 years because it is steadily
dropping by 5.324 ms per year. So in 200 years time it will be a
mode, you could only put the two speakers in parallel
if the amplifier is rated for 4 ohm loads in bridged mode.
Regards,
Javier
Jim Palfreyman escribió:
OK I have an interesting but simple problem that has nothing to do with
time. But I'm sure someone on this list will know. And besides
OK I have an interesting but simple problem that has nothing to do with
time. But I'm sure someone on this list will know. And besides I can't be
stuffed finding another list with such a good S/N ratio.
In my spare time I play in a band.
I have a 1000W amplifier that can be either two 500W
But wouldn't, over time, all this ntp/OS/network noise average away
because ultimately the whole system is being locked to an atomic clock? I
know any given measurement will have errors in the order of milliseconds,
but the long term average ought to be good. Ought it?
You could test it by giving
with tubes group send an email to,
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Palfreyman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 6:55 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] VNG sound files
Folks,
Didier
Or even better.
Have each email come to a gmail account. Very quick to search then.
(and I know it doesn't work for old posts!)
I've been converted to gmail's method of email handling. i.e. Never delete
anything and make searching very fast.
Jim
2008/9/7 Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Folks,
Didier has kindly given me some web space to hold these files. For those
that emailed me and others who are interested, please visit:
http://www.ko4bb.com/cgi-bin/manuals.pl?dir=5)_GPS_Timing/VNG_Time_Station
BR_002 is the regular announcement that occurred every 15 minutes that you
will
,
Jim Palfreyman
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