Paul,
gas? What gas?
what soft plastic paint remover?
A little more specifics would help if someone is in the need.
Cheers,
Magnus
On 20/07/13 23:22, paul swed wrote:
Hello to the group.
As the various posts mention pulling the outer oven and taped wire off is a
job. But thats done.
The Osc
Magnus,
I am sure he does mean gasoline, petrol, benzine. I apply it quite often
when
other alcohols dont work e.g. spiritus (ethanol). But beware to apply
only the
clean issue which is specially sold for this purpose or that one sold in
small metal cans for the good old cigarette lighters. It is
I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.
I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of used
test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts
Paint remover turpentine
Gas = gasoline
Ovens all clean now of the goo.
But its still off frequency
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote:
I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.
I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
suggestion
Hi Paul (and others),
On 31/07/13 15:37, paul swed wrote:
Paint remover turpentine
Gas = gasoline
Thanks!
Ovens all clean now of the goo.
But its still off frequency
Bummer. Hope it can resolve itself with some more debugging and test of
ideas with the good folks here.
Have a few more
Can popped open pretty easily. Now to start to measure voltages to see if
things are within tolerance.
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello to the group.
As the various posts mention pulling the outer oven and taped wire off is
a job. But thats done.
-nut postings do show up other places.
ws
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From: Charles P. Steinmetz
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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
Warren
Warren S and I have posted details of an outer oven controller for the 10811
double oven series here: http://www.vk2hmc.net/blog/?p=526
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Marki
Funny timing. I am working on a 10811 from a z3801 and am working towards
opening the can its soldered. Steve Smiths posts have been very helpful.
But I am dealing with lots of black melted goo. Not really from heat. Just
age the way a lot of things deteriorate.
That said I will be trying to
Paul,
If the 10811 is that far off, are you sure the oven is working? A
few years ago mine had a failure of a particular date code range of
the opamp that controls the oven, that were prone to failure.at high
temperature. The symptom in the Z3801A was that the outer oven seemed
bad - it did
Hi
If a 10811 oven is simply not working, the output will be 400 Hz off
frequency.
Bob
On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:48 PM, ed breya e...@telight.com wrote:
Paul,
If the 10811 is that far off, are you sure the oven is working? A few years
ago mine had a failure of a particular date code
Hello to the group.
As the various posts mention pulling the outer oven and taped wire off is a
job. But thats done.
The Osc is 45 Hz low hot and 200 Hz low cold. Bobs on target with his
comment on what to expect. It does warm up and behave as you might expect
but its all relative not exact even
Of Mark C. Stephens
Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013 1:21 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] 10811 Outer oven controller schematic
Warren S and I have posted details of an outer oven controller for the 10811
double oven series here: http://www.vk2hmc.net/blog/?p=526
--marki
:09 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
The schematic has been around for some time. Although it's not the
original site (which I believe is now gone), Didier has reposted the
info at:
http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/05%29_GPS_Timing/Z3801
.
Bob
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Behalf Of Ed Palmer
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:09 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
The schematic has been around for some time. Although
Ok, thanks for clarifying. In general the time constant one chooses must
reflect both the intrinsic performance of the OCXO (essentially constant) and
the realities of GPSDO mechanical, sky-view, and environmental conditions
(possibly variable). Disabling an oven during a run is equivalent to a
The Tbolt LadyHeather plots in my posting are being used as a poor mans
high resolution TIC tester as discussed at length in other postings, not for
it's GPSDO output capability.
This is a method that allows a time-nut person that does not have any of the
high end equipment still the ability
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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
The Tbolt LadyHeather plots in my posting are being used as a poor mans high
resolution TIC tester as discussed at length in other postings, not for it's
GPSDO output capability
Is anyone aware of a schematic for the oscillator on the web? I have
downloaded the usual 10811 manuals but I've never seen a schematic or
description of the pin-outs for the double-oven version.
Bob Darby
On 7/12/2013 11:38 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote:
Is it enough if I have a schematic to
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The schematic has been around for some time. Although it's not the
original site (which I believe is now gone), Didier has reposted the
info at:
http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/05%29_GPS_Timing/Z3801/Z3801A_Outer_Oven/Web_Page/Z3801A%20Outer%20Oven%20Controller.htm
If necessary, be sure to
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
Bob said {the 10811 will run fine without the outer oven}
What I've seen is that a dual oven 10811 will run even **finer** and have up
to 100 times less sensitivity to normal room temperature changes with a
simple outer oven controller
*
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From: Tom Van Baak
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
Hi Warren,
That's a really nice plot.
One comment about the 60:1 quote, though. The plot
I have a spare 10811 double oven, is there a homebrew outer oven controller
floating around?
-Marki
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Is it enough if I have a schematic to send? But first let me find it...
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Mark C. Stephens ma...@non-stop.com.au wrote:
I have a spare 10811 double oven, is there a homebrew outer oven controller
floating around?
-Marki
] 10811 outer oven controller.
Is it enough if I have a schematic to send? But first let me find it...
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Mark C. Stephens ma...@non-stop.com.au wrote:
I have a spare 10811 double oven, is there a homebrew outer oven controller
floating around?
-Marki
for a run of them ;)
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Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013 1:38 AM
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Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10811 outer oven controller.
Hi
The outer oven on that version is simply a warmup heater. If it's
operating properly, it drops
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