Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-12-07 Thread Electric Cat
Hal Murray hmurray@... writes:

 
 
 normanlizeth@... said:
 
 I also have a pair of small boards that I don't have any info on.
 
 PCB says Trimble,  39818-00-C.  The 00 is written in by hand.
 There is a big chip on the bottom that says Trimble.  144 quad flatpack.
 Anybody recognize that?
 


Well, this is Trimble Lassen ACE-III board. I have some of them. You could 
connect them to your system via 8-pin connector. There are two serial 
channels (one is for TSIP protocol, another is for NMEA), voltage levels 
are CMOS and you should power the board with 5 volts. You can take the 
pinout from Lassen LP board.

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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-08-10 Thread R.Phillips

Jason
Thank you for your information on the Datum 2100 GPS - I now have this 
basically 'set-up' and I wonder, as its a Trimble Rx. if it can be accessed 
through its RS232 port using the Trimble software ?

Roy Phillips.


-Original Message- 
From: Jason Rabel

Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:45 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

Are you sure your GPS module has the correct settings of 9600 8-O-1 TSIP
IN  TSIP OUT?



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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-27 Thread R.Phillips

Jason
Re: Datum TS2100

I have only recently obtained a Datum 2100 GPS - its working fine, but it 
has been suggested that the Oscillator is not disciplined by the GPS - can 
somebody confirm this ?   A brief look inside has established that it has a 
Trimble GPS unit, which would seem to be the same as per your discussion. Is 
it possible to obtain the Technical Manual for this equipment ?

Thanks
Roy



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From: Jason Rabel

Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:04 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III


I also have a pair of small boards that I don't have any info on.

PCB says Trimble,  39818-00-C.  The 00 is written in by hand.
There is a big chip on the bottom that says Trimble.  144 quad

flatpack.

It's got more stuff on the chip, but I can't read it.


I compared against my Trimble modules... Those are ACE-III receivers.
They are newer models (but backwards compatible) with the SveeSix... They
are also what you *usually* find in a Tymserve TS2100.

Don't get rid of them, they are very hard to find these days! If you
don't want them, contact me off-list if you want to sell them!

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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-26 Thread Hal Murray

normanliz...@gmail.com said:
 Turns out that the original receiver was a svee6.

Let me know if you want a real SVee6.  I've got 2 left.  :)

---

I also have a pair of small boards that I don't have any info on.

PCB says Trimble,  39818-00-C.  The 00 is written in by hand.
There is a big chip on the bottom that says Trimble.  144 quad flatpack.
It's got more stuff on the chip, but I can't read it.

The top has 2 big chips.  One has a sticker: 39942-00
I'm guessing a CPU and ROM.  The chip I'm calling
a CPU has a MX logo.  44 pin PLCC.

A can looks like a crystal/osc: 12.504

The PCB is (close to) 3 1/4 x 1 7/8.

Anybody recognize that?



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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-26 Thread Lizeth Norman
Hal,
I may take you up on that. However, looking through the manual, it appears
that not all of that type/firmware support WRNO. Supposedly, based on my
digging, early ones did not, the later ones did.
Next step is to ensure that the number formatting output by the new clone
corresponds to the output of the sveesix. I'm curious, based on the fact
that the polled messages work (firmware and satellite id\signal strength)
and what I would assume as  broadcast or standard TSIP messages do not.
Norm n3ykf


On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:


 normanliz...@gmail.com said:
  Turns out that the original receiver was a svee6.

 Let me know if you want a real SVee6.  I've got 2 left.  :)

 ---

 I also have a pair of small boards that I don't have any info on.

 PCB says Trimble,  39818-00-C.  The 00 is written in by hand.
 There is a big chip on the bottom that says Trimble.  144 quad flatpack.
 It's got more stuff on the chip, but I can't read it.

 The top has 2 big chips.  One has a sticker: 39942-00
 I'm guessing a CPU and ROM.  The chip I'm calling
 a CPU has a MX logo.  44 pin PLCC.

 A can looks like a crystal/osc: 12.504

 The PCB is (close to) 3 1/4 x 1 7/8.

 Anybody recognize that?



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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-26 Thread Jason Rabel
 I also have a pair of small boards that I don't have any info on.

 PCB says Trimble,  39818-00-C.  The 00 is written in by hand.
 There is a big chip on the bottom that says Trimble.  144 quad
flatpack.
 It's got more stuff on the chip, but I can't read it.

I compared against my Trimble modules... Those are ACE-III receivers.
They are newer models (but backwards compatible) with the SveeSix... They
are also what you *usually* find in a Tymserve TS2100.

Don't get rid of them, they are very hard to find these days! If you
don't want them, contact me off-list if you want to sell them!

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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-25 Thread Jason Rabel
The GPS Health menu choice never really did anything. It will always
say Doing position fixes, error code: 1. However, the GPS Firmware and
Signal Strength menus should report back proper information.

Can you elaborate on it does not set the right time? Is it some random
time, or is it off by some fixed general offset (like 1 hour)?

Do the Tracking  Lock LEDs light up with the new receiver?



 Hi all!
 Have a Datum ts2100 that had a failed gps receiver. Found a replacement
as
 a new clone. The ts2100 with the new receiver does not set the right
 time, however, it does know where it is, reports the gps firmware
version
 and gives satellite information. Prior to this, the only message that I
 could get regarding the gps receiver was gps engine busy. The ts2100
 never illuminates the lock or tracking led's on the front panel.
 When checking the menu available from the front panel, in the timing
 section, at the gps health prompt, the ts2100 reports the error gps
 doing fixes error code 41
 A google search reveals absolutely nothing.
 Norm n3ykf

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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-25 Thread Lizeth Norman
Jason,
The time on the front panel of the instrument, at power on, shows Jan 1,
2014.
As you say, the gps health menu choice functions sometimes like you state,
other times I get error 41. I do also get the firmware and satellite
information.
Neither the Tracking or Lock led's illuminate.
Norm


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com
 wrote:

 The GPS Health menu choice never really did anything. It will always
 say Doing position fixes, error code: 1. However, the GPS Firmware and
 Signal Strength menus should report back proper information.

 Can you elaborate on it does not set the right time? Is it some random
 time, or is it off by some fixed general offset (like 1 hour)?

 Do the Tracking  Lock LEDs light up with the new receiver?



  Hi all!
  Have a Datum ts2100 that had a failed gps receiver. Found a replacement
 as
  a new clone. The ts2100 with the new receiver does not set the right
  time, however, it does know where it is, reports the gps firmware
 version
  and gives satellite information. Prior to this, the only message that I
  could get regarding the gps receiver was gps engine busy. The ts2100
  never illuminates the lock or tracking led's on the front panel.
  When checking the menu available from the front panel, in the timing
  section, at the gps health prompt, the ts2100 reports the error gps
  doing fixes error code 41
  A google search reveals absolutely nothing.
  Norm n3ykf

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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-25 Thread Jason Rabel
Are you sure your GPS module has the correct settings of 9600 8-O-1 TSIP
IN  TSIP OUT?



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Re: [time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-25 Thread Lizeth Norman
Jason,
If the device (gps) reports the firmware and satellites correctly (to the
ts 2100), I would assume so.
No other reasonable explanation exists.
Turns out that the original receiver was a svee6. Found the manual for the
gps and am comparing the default messages with the ace III.
Norm


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com
wrote:

 Are you sure your GPS module has the correct settings of 9600 8-O-1 TSIP
 IN  TSIP OUT?



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[time-nuts] Datum ts2100 gps error code 41: New clone ace III

2014-07-24 Thread Lizeth Norman
Hi all!
Have a Datum ts2100 that had a failed gps receiver. Found a replacement as
a new clone. The ts2100 with the new receiver does not set the right
time, however, it does know where it is, reports the gps firmware version
and gives satellite information. Prior to this, the only message that I
could get regarding the gps receiver was gps engine busy. The ts2100
never illuminates the lock or tracking led's on the front panel.
When checking the menu available from the front panel, in the timing
section, at the gps health prompt, the ts2100 reports the error gps
doing fixes error code 41
A google search reveals absolutely nothing.
Norm n3ykf
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