Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-03 Thread jim s
splitter, and then a few feet of RG316 to my receiver. Bob From: jim s jwsm...@jwsss.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS Bob, I was being

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Hal Murray
To you and Hal who suggested it, is this unit suitable for outputing a1pps timing signal? Wouldn't the long serial option Hal suggestion mess that up, vs. using this method to put the Fastax as close as possible to a system which which would have the systems gpio and serial ports attached?

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Daniel Mendes
Em 02/07/2014 05:04, Hal Murray escreveu: If you want to go farther or faster, it's probably wise to shift to differential signaling. This. always use 485/422 drivers (2 pairs, one in each direction) + 1 pair for VCC + 1 pair for GND in a CAT-5 cable. If you are carefull you can choose the

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Chris Albertson
I tried using a long serial cable. Just because I had some 100 feet of cat-5 wire already installed. It did not work reliably I was using a MAX232 chip as a driver. I could have made it work by using differential drivers/receivers at each end but I had some good antenna lead, pulled that into a

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Hal Murray
albertson.ch...@gmail.com said: I tried using a long serial cable. Just because I had some 100 feet of cat-5 wire already installed. It did not work reliably I was using a MAX232 chip as a driver. Were you using it as 8 separate wires or 4 pairs? I'd expect RS-232 to work over 100 ft of

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are an enormous number of variables in real world RS-232 (as opposed to spec compliant RS-232). Are you driving with = +/- 5V or maybe with 3V? Do you have 1 to 2 K ohm current limiting resistors on the drivers (popular in the 1970’s) ? How big is the dead band / hysteresis on your

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Wojciech Owczarek
My 2c - RS232 is extensively used in data centres over cat5 with network kit for out of band management via serial consoles, usually 9600 baud. I've done this many times via (multiple) patching panels/frames easily over 100ft, ribbon/rollover then cat6 but also cat5. This kit tends to be

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Chris Albertson
I tried using it as pairs but you really can't. You have Tx, Rx and the PPS all sharing one ground return and the ground is not even a current return because each end is connected tho the building ground system. So you can TRY to use pairs like I did but it remains unbalanced. Yes you can make

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Alexander Pummer
the trick of every data line is; it has to me matched to it's impedance, at least at the receiving end, other way it is ringing. Every pair of conductor becomes transmission line as soon it's length exceeds the length of the rise time of the signal which is traveling on it. 73 Alex On

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Alexander Pummer alex...@ieee.org wrote: I've done this many times via (multiple) patching panels/frames easily over 100ft, ribbon/rollover then cat6 but also cat5. This kit tends to be reliable... Does this include the PPS signal on the DTR pin? I think this

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread jim s
play with that until the unit can be trusted to give reliable NMEA and 1PPS output. Unfinished page: http://leapsecond.com/pages/itrax/ /tvb - Original Message - From: Ernie Peres erniepe...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-02 Thread Bob Stewart
AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS Bob, I was being a bit lazy.  The 15' distance gets from a couple of spots in the room with my systems and lab, and also is already terminated, and there is no issue with the power since it would be totally contained in the unit. But your suggestion

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-01 Thread jim s
. Unfinished page: http://leapsecond.com/pages/itrax/ /tvb - Original Message - From: Ernie Peres erniepe...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS Hi Jason, I figured out a different pin assignments hold the PCB

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-01 Thread Hal Murray
jwsm...@jwsss.com said: I want a long run because where I plan to use it is some distance from clear line of site. It's often easier to use a long serial cable rather than a long antenna cable. http://www.ebay.com/itm/321295751672 This one happens to be 5 meters long and is active. ...

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-01 Thread Bob Stewart
and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS I went back thru this thread to look for the answer, and did not see it so am asking.  The one of these I have has a threaded female connector on it.  One of the ones in Tom's page has

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-01 Thread jim s
On 7/1/2014 8:27 PM, Hal Murray wrote: It's often easier to use a long serial cable rather than a long antenna cable. Excellent suggestion. I will look at that as an alternative. I wanted to keep the FASTRAX and the unit is mated to near my systems, but for other GPS setups with other chips

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-07-01 Thread jim s
Bob, I was being a bit lazy. The 15' distance gets from a couple of spots in the room with my systems and lab, and also is already terminated, and there is no issue with the power since it would be totally contained in the unit. But your suggestion and some work making the cables would work

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-06-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
/pages/itrax/ /tvb - Original Message - From: Ernie Peres erniepe...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS Hi Jason, I figured out a different pin assignments hold the PCB so that the SMA antenna connector

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-06-11 Thread Ernie Peres
: Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com o: time-nuts@febo.com ubject: Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS essage-ID: 002001cf8405$b0ddc2e0$129948a0$@extremeoverclocking.com ontent-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Ernie, I'm having issues right now, I need to find my adapter cable as the one I have

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-06-09 Thread Jason Rabel
Ernie, I got a couple of those off eBay too, they've been sitting on my desk for the past week or so. I'll experiment with them today to figure out the pinout and post my results. Sometimes the Trimble manuals get their pinouts upside down. Also the itrax doesn't appear to have any

Re: [time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-06-09 Thread Jason Rabel
Ernie, I'm having issues right now, I need to find my adapter cable as the one I have right now is the wrong pin spacing. I did trace the lines on the PCB and it appears to be the same as the Resolution-T / Lassen / other Trimble pinouts... Just FYI, I couldn't find a valid link to the 3.41

[time-nuts] FASTRAX GPS

2014-06-06 Thread Ernie Peres
Hi, I have a few of this GPS board / iTrax130 / but unable to figure out the pin assignment...it has 8pins on the board and somebody told me it is same as the Trimble Resolution-T but seems to me it is not . Any help? Thanks a lot in advance. Ernie. -Original Message-