Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-18 Thread Paul Flinders
On 16/11/12 23:48, J. Forster wrote: PayPal is pretty much a law unto itself. Basically, if you choose to become involved with them, it's their bat, ball, glove, and ballpark. Your only real alternative is to play another game. Unfortunately, the younger generation of eBay sellers is convinced

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Tom Holmes
-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. Forster Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 7:32 PM To: li...@lazygranch.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal. Tyhey used to. Have you asked them

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Pete Lancashire
Payment is possible with Paypal or credit card. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:06 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: I'm just amazed Aligent doesn't take credit cards directly. Paypal is for small time players. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David Kirkby
On 17 November 2012 14:31, Tom Holmes thol...@woh.rr.com wrote: I would strongly suggest that you consider buying Agilent Certi-Prime items not through EBay but through one of the distributors that they now sell much of their equipment through. The discounts on eBay (48% was agreed, prior to

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David Kirkby
This is some of the communication between me and Agilent on eBay. I think it is clear Agilent wanted to use Paypal, and I did not. It was Agilent who said I should split the payment into two - one of $10,000 and the other of $7,736 Credit cards were not mentioned, but this would have been above

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
Odd. I would have expected anybody's PayPal limit would be lower than the associated credit card limit. Logically, one should be therefore able to get a PayPal account without a credit card,. -John === This is some of the communication between me and Agilent on eBay. I think it is

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David Kirkby
You can get a Paypal account without a credit card. I think all you need is a bank account. In fact, every time I try to buy something with Paypal, it defaults to taking the money from my bank account, and every time I need to change it to take it from my credit card. I appear to have a $10,000

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
Perhaps. That opens the possibility of linking a PayPal account to a bank account, then zeroing the balance. Somehow, I doubt that actually works. -John == You can get a Paypal account without a credit card. I think all you need is a bank account. In fact, every time I try to buy

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 11/17/2012 4:37 PM, J. Forster wrote: Perhaps. That opens the possibility of linking a PayPal account to a bank account, then zeroing the balance. Somehow, I doubt that actually works. -John Then you pay the overdraft charge... -- mailto:o...@ozindfw.net Oz POB 93167 Southlake, TX

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
Not if you just walk into a bank and open an account with $100 cash. My point is not fraud, but that PayPal is not safe. -John == On 11/17/2012 4:37 PM, J. Forster wrote: Perhaps. That opens the possibility of linking a PayPal account to a bank account, then zeroing the balance.

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Gottlieb
That works just fine. I have two Paypal accounts, one tied to my regular bank account which I use for purchases, and another tied to a small account at a local bank (where I keep almost nothing) which I use for selling. As soon as money goes into that account I use an ATM to withdraw cash,

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Don Latham
I'm wondering if agilentused is really part of the Agilent corp or whatever it's called? or an independent company entirely? My only and last $.02! Don L J. Forster Not if you just walk into a bank and open an account with $100 cash. My point is not fraud, but that PayPal is not safe. -John

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David Kirkby
On 17 November 2012 23:37, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: I'm wondering if agilentused is really part of the Agilent corp or whatever it's called? or an independent company entirely? My only and last $.02! Don L J. Forster It is Agilent - at least to the extent I can determine. Some

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
As I said, try calling Executive Complaints at the US HQ. LD calls are cheap these days. You have nothing to lose, IMO. -John === On 17 November 2012 23:37, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: I'm wondering if agilentused is really part of the Agilent corp or whatever it's called?

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Nov 17, 2012, at 5:29 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: It is Agilent - at least to the extent I can determine. Some reported [...] Also to the extent that I could determine. All emails after the sales were from the UK offices of Agilent. Any emails sent to

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Nov 17, 2012, at 4:37 PM, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: I'm wondering if agilentused is really part of the Agilent corp or whatever it's called? or an independent company entirely? My only and last $.02! I reviewed my email archive. Emails regarding my purchase from agilentused came

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
If agilentused is selling stuff on eBay, might not the PayPal be an eBay thing, rather than an Agilent thing? Fer sure, eBay really, really pushes PayPal because they get an additional cut of the transaction. -John == On Nov 17, 2012, at 5:29 PM, David Kirkby

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David Kirkby
On 18 November 2012 01:02, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: As I said, try calling Executive Complaints at the US HQ. LD calls are cheap these days. You have nothing to lose, IMO. -John But I can imagine I would be a very long time on a phone trying to get someone able to deal with it. I

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David Kirkby
On 18 November 2012 01:04, Kevin Rosenberg ke...@rosenberg.net wrote: agilentused also wanted me to use PayPal. I used two transactions. The first for the item and the second for software options. I would have also preferred credit card for the cash back, but agilentused wanted PayPal.

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal. Shipping delays

2012-11-17 Thread Tom Knox
: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal. I'm wondering if agilentused is really part of the Agilent corp or whatever it's called? or an independent company entirely? My only and last $.02! Don L J. Forster Not if you just walk into a bank and open

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread J. Forster
You don't ask, you don't get. And, is 10 UKP really significant compared to what you've spent or lost? Get to them, succinctly summarize, get a name, and then switch to email. YMMV, -John === On 18 November 2012 01:02, J. Forster j...@quikus.com wrote: As I said, try calling

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-17 Thread David J Taylor
-Original Message- From: David Kirkby [] This is some of the communication between me and Agilent on eBay. I think it is clear Agilent wanted to use Paypal, and I did not. It was Agilent who said I should split the payment into two - one of $10,000 and the other of $7,736 [] Dave

[time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-16 Thread David Kirkby
I'm sure many on this list will have had bad experiences with eBay and/or Paypal. I've had a fair few myself, but the following is the single largest loss I have incurred, and was when buying directly from Agilent - not some reseller of Agilent equipment. The only winners are eBay and Paypal,

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-16 Thread J. Forster
PayPal is pretty much a law unto itself. Basically, if you choose to become involved with them, it's their bat, ball, glove, and ballpark. Your only real alternative is to play another game. Unfortunately, the younger generation of eBay sellers is convinced that PayPal and plastic is the only

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-16 Thread lists
I'm just amazed Aligent doesn't take credit cards directly. Paypal is for small time players. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Warning if buying from directly from Agilent via eBay with Paypal.

2012-11-16 Thread J. Forster
Tyhey used to. Have you asked them if they still do? -John = I'm just amazed Aligent doesn't take credit cards directly. Paypal is for small time players. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to