Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-20 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Hi Bob, You are confusing the readers here. 1) zero altitude relative the WGS84/GPS ellipsoid are often tens of meters over or below sea level, depending on your location. 2) zero altitude relative to a geoid (EGM96 or something else) is very close to sea level. Then if you think of the

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One of our standing jokes when we lived by the shore was that we actually lived underwater. The GPS routinely put is 30 to 50’ below sea level …. Bob On May 20, 2015, at 3:36 AM, Björn Gabrielsson b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Hi Bob, You are confusing the readers here. 1) zero

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The gotcha is that the GPS numbers are related to a geoid model and not to sea level. You can indeed find points that are “underwater” based on the geoid, but quite dry in real life (and vice-versa). Bob On May 19, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Demian Martin demianm@gmail.com wrote: I would

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-19 Thread Demian Martin
I would buy that (Google Maps being off) except that I'm less than 2 miles from the SF bay and -5M would have me underwater. That may well happen but not for a few years at least. Also the Arbiter does match Google maps pretty closely. It doesn't really matter a lot, just a curiosity.

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 130, Issue 27

2015-05-19 Thread Dave Martindale
Which altitude do you have the Thunderbolt set up to report? If you have the datum set to WGS-84, the Thunderbolt can report either HAE (height above ellipsoid) or MSL (height above the geoid model) in its serial output. The choice is controlled by bit 2 of byte 0 of the 0x35 command packet.