Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi On a traditional RPi, many things go over the USB. The ethernet interface connects via USB. On some, the WiFi also connects over USB. It all necks down into a very narrow “pipe”. Bob > On Dec 5, 2019, at 3:21 PM, Anton Strydom wrote: > > HI Bob > > I do not require timing on the USB at

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you are moving blocks of data ( = pictures / video ) out over the same basic USB interface. I suspect you will get into blocking issues. That sort of thing will make the basic “frame rate” stuff a bit less important. I have that same “gotcha” in what I’m doing. The network will be a bit

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread Anton Strydom
HI Bob I do not require timing on the USB at all On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 6:00 PM Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > One timing issue could be that USB is not that great for timing. Since it > is > packet based it introduces jitter in the link. Running NTP on a > “traditional” > RPi is unlikely to

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread James C Cotton
>I'd like to test with the Raspberry Pi 4B which avoids USB in its gigabit >Ethernet port path. > >Cheers, >David As a network engineer at a university I can tell you that you are just trading one set of unknowns for a different and possibly larger set. When you go from "n devices on the same

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread jimlux
On 12/5/19 5:16 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi One timing issue could be that USB is not that great for timing. Since it is packet based it introduces jitter in the link. Running NTP on a “traditional” RPi is unlikely to produce numbers below a milisecond. USB only guarantees 125 microsecond timing

Re: [time-nuts] Quartz oscillator slow drift/aging

2019-12-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Yikes That should read “expected on an OCXO” !!! Sorry !!! Bob > On Dec 5, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > > Hi > > That’s unexpected on an OCXO that may have been power off for a > decade or more. Let it run for a month and see how it’s doing then. > > Bob > >> On Dec 2,

Re: [time-nuts] Quartz oscillator slow drift/aging

2019-12-05 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 12:30:44PM -0700, AC0XU (Jim) wrote: > I have a FPS 1150A quartz oscillator with the 1 PPS disciplining > option. With the frequency control set to "manual" I can use the digital > thumbwheel control to set 10 MHz correctly. However, for two weeks there > has been a

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
From: Bob kb8tq Hi One timing issue could be that USB is not that great for timing. Since it is packet based it introduces jitter in the link. Running NTP on a “traditional” RPi is unlikely to produce numbers below a milisecond. Indeed I’m digging into that for what I’m working on ….. Bob

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One timing issue could be that USB is not that great for timing. Since it is packet based it introduces jitter in the link. Running NTP on a “traditional” RPi is unlikely to produce numbers below a milisecond. Indeed I’m digging into that for what I’m working on ….. Bob > On Dec 5, 2019,

Re: [time-nuts] USB over optical fiber

2019-12-05 Thread David Van Horn via time-nuts
Ok, thanks for the info. My unit should be arriving today or tomorrow. -- David VanHorn Lead Hardware Engineer Backcountry Access, Inc. 2820 Wilderness Pl, Unit H Boulder, CO  80301 USA phone: 303-417-1345  x110 email: david.vanh...@backcountryaccess.com  -Original Message- From: Scott

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Tbolt temperature

2019-12-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Since the DAC / reference is the main source of error, placing the sensor a bit away from the OCXO makes sense. You also don’t want to watch the OCXO heat the board. You want data on the outside temperature. Since it’s all buried away in a Khalman filter, even the people who designed it

Re: [time-nuts] Quartz oscillator slow drift/aging

2019-12-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi That’s unexpected on an OCXO that may have been power off for a decade or more. Let it run for a month and see how it’s doing then. Bob > On Dec 2, 2019, at 2:30 PM, AC0XU (Jim) wrote: > > Time Gurus- > > I have a FPS 1150A quartz oscillator with the 1 PPS disciplining option. With >

Re: [time-nuts] measuring currents on USB powered devices

2019-12-05 Thread Adrian Godwin
A problem with inline measurement is that a suitable sense resistance for measuring runtime current (perhaps at a few hundred mA) is not sensitive enough for standby current (uA), and if chosen as a useful value for standby current it drops far too much voltage during full power running. An

Re: [time-nuts] Lowest Power NTP Server

2019-12-05 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > However if the “broadcast” NTP approach was the method of choice, then a > wake up and do it would work. for. the server. One of the disadvantages of broadcast is that you don't know what the round trip time is so you can't use that to filter out quirky cases. If

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronization

2019-12-05 Thread Anton Strydom
Good day Hal Thank you for your contribution The physical setup is as follows, each Rp1 has 2 or more cameras attached to it via a multiplexer or usb depending on the camera, there are a number of V2 RPi and also a couple of USB cameras attached to some of the RPi's. All the equipment is powered