Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread ed breya
The nicest optical bench I've ever seen in person, was in one of our labs many years ago. It was a huge, precisely flat polished granite slab about 6-8" thick, about 4x8' or maybe 5x10', mounted on active-leveling pneumatic bladders. It was loaded with thousands of threaded inserts, uniformly

Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread Wes
In my youth I worked for a time in my dad's automotive machine shop.  We did a lot of work on medium-sized industrial engines, Cummins V-12s, GMC V16-71s, International TD-24s, etc. To handle these we bought a Van Norman crankshaft grinder, a sizable machine, which I operated.  The shop was in

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread DON MURRAY via time-nuts
I'll check my 5372A manual to see if I can be of any help. Don W4WJ On Sunday, June 28, 2020 ed breya wrote: I have a 5372A, and way back when I got it, I of course looked for the manual and think I got the pdf. As I recall, this was from the era where HP still provided full "real"

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread VE7HR
Lester, I think looking at the parts list in the Service manual from Artek it’s a bought out all in one unit. If I recall the BOM has one line item. Have you checked with Walter at Sphere? He has the next PN in the sequence which is a Sony Color display. Or check with Newscope for a LCD

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread ed breya
I have a 5372A, and way back when I got it, I of course looked for the manual and think I got the pdf. As I recall, this was from the era where HP still provided full "real" manuals with all the schematics etc. The exception sometimes is if the entire display is an OEM unit, treated as a

[time-nuts] HP5370B parts needed

2020-06-28 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I am trying bring HP5370B back to life.  It is missing power supply board and display interface board.  If anyone has a spare or a junk machine and interested in selling, please let me know. Display interface board is the one second from the left.  Power supply card is by itself, close to banks

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5372A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Lester Veenstra via time-nuts
Steve: I probably will be reduced to stealing the two assemblies from a 71 to go into the 72 Lester B Veenstra K1YCM MØYCM W8YCM 6Y6Y les...@veenstras.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5372A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Lester Veenstra via time-nuts
Yes, but no schematics visible. Lester B Veenstra K1YCM MØYCM W8YCM 6Y6Y les...@veenstras.com -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of Dave Miller Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 11:31 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Steve - Home
Lester, Might that be a 5372A?  I have it’s brother, the 5371A. I turn it on every few months to make sure it’s still working. I’m going to be away for at least a week but will look for my documentation when I return. My 5371A is on the disposal list as I start my downsizing. Steve WB0DBS

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5372A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Lester Veenstra via time-nuts
"You can get a bitmap of the screen using "INTERFACE;PSOURCE,DISPLAY;PRINT", but it is not particularly fast and comes with gratis PCL escapes, but it does work." Interesting, I will look into it as a way to get a starting point, atleast for initial tests and diadnostics

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5372A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Lester Veenstra via time-nuts
I assume you mean HP-5372A---Yes, of course. Mind not fully in control Lester B Veenstra  K1YCM MØYCM W8YCM 6Y6Y les...@veenstras.com 452 Stable Ln (HC84 RFD USPS Mail) Keyser WV 26726 GPS: 39.336826 N  78.982287 W (Google) GPS: 39.33682 N  78.9823741 W (GPSDO) Telephones: Home:   

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Dave Miller
Lester, All I can find is the PN 2090-0209 for the whole assembly. Dave VE7HR On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 7:29 AM Lester Veenstra via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > TimeNuts: > > > > I have a HP 5732A with a defective CRT driver board. Since this (A17) > is undocumented (as

Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET Email: drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk Web: https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/ Kirkby Microwave Ltd (Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100) Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT. On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 at 12:44, Tom Van Baak wrote: > About slabs

Re: [time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Lester Veenstra via time-nuts writes: I assume you mean HP-5372A and not 5732A ? > I see good H and V sync inputs as well as the ZMod (Video data) into the > board, bur the drive for the two deflection coils is not what I would > expect. The 5372 uses a weird video-format, 19KHz

[time-nuts] FW: HP-5732A operation with no CRT display.

2020-06-28 Thread Lester Veenstra via time-nuts
TimeNuts: I have a HP 5732A with a defective CRT driver board. Since this (A17) is undocumented (as no repairable) I am of course trying to work my way around it to see if the defect is findable. Any A17 boards loose out there, or even better, documentation? I see good H and V

Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Tom Van Baak writes: > Note the unknown mystery support technique underneath. No mystery at all. Such supports are standard equipment for a lot of "nano" kit, such as optical tables, SEM microscopes and similar. Google "optical table vibration isolation" and you will find lots of

Re: [time-nuts] Elpromatime (Was Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 191, Issue 28)

2020-06-28 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
From: Dave B via time-nuts [] Also, has anyone tried this? (An alternative to Meinberg on Windows perhaps...) https://elpromatime.com/downloads/I'd take a look, but I don't run Windows here any more. Cheers n beers. Dave G8KBV Dave, It's the

Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread ew via time-nuts
Once I get my OSA 8607 back I plan on mounting it along with a FRK/M100 RB in a HP chassis. Attached a picture of a vibration  mount for the OSA. Very soft. Can not be used for the Rb because of weight but also vibration mounted. The Rb is fan cooled with a Sunon MagLev 80X80x15 30db(A)

Re: [time-nuts] Precise Pendulum

2020-06-28 Thread John Moran, Scawby Design
Interesting ... They quote - “At the other end of the scale, gravity dominates over very long distances, while quantum effects vanish entirely at these distances.” I thought quantum entanglement was valid over any distance - Einstein’s “spooky action at a distance”. Thus offering the

Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread George Dubovsky
Through the mysteries of business consolidation and the resulting asset transfers, I have in my Virginia basement a rather nice Zeiss metallurgical microscope (which I have absolutely no use for but I couldn't stand to see consigned to a dumpster), which is perched on its original mount, a

[time-nuts] Elpromatime (Was Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 191, Issue 28)

2020-06-28 Thread Dave B via time-nuts
A funny looking "SMA" ended cable https://elpromatime.com/portfolio_page/time-server-nts-pico/  (Scroll down.) Also, has anyone tried this?  (An alternative to Meinberg on Windows perhaps...) https://elpromatime.com/downloads/    I'd take a look, but I don't run Windows here any more.

[time-nuts] Precise pendulum

2020-06-28 Thread Mark Sims
https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/06/tiny-pendulum-may-reveal-gravitys-secrets/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] Vibration isolation of quartz oscillators

2020-06-28 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Neville Michie writes: > An old trick I learned from an Australian standards lab was to make a > vibration free > table with a 2 foot by 2 foot by 2 inch paving slab supported by a partly > inflated > wheel barrow inner tube. Yes, that works surprisingly well, because the toroid shape