[time-nuts] Re: Suggestions solicited for Pi/GPSDO ntp server

2022-05-26 Thread Hal Murray via time-nuts
> I think it's about time to retire my old former cell site GPSDO. > Technology has improved and I'm thinking of setting up a Raspberry Pi based > ntp server for the local devices. (I also have some spare Pi's, so...) > Does anyone have any suggestions for a good solid Pi/GPSDO setup and code

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Brooke Clarke via time-nuts
Hi Ed: You might surf the Accessories Catalog for Impedance Measurements. https://www.keysight.com/us/en/assets/7018-06727/brochures/5965-4792.pdf They have a number of SMD fixtures for 4-terminal pair LCR meters. https://prc68.com/I/Z.shtml#KeyDocs -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread John Lofgren via time-nuts
Bob, You may be thinking of Dishal's method. < https://www.johansontechnology.com/dishal-bandpass-filter-tuning-using-lasertrim-chip-caps> -John -Original Message- From: Bob kb8tq via time-nuts Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:18 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Lux, Jim via time-nuts
On 5/26/22 8:18 AM, Bob kb8tq via time-nuts wrote: Hi The real answer to the problem is to dig into the bowels of 1940’s electronic craft. There are various methods for setting up an L/C filter. You short this / open that sweep to find a dip or a peak. You move it to the “right” place. Just

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi That’s one of the methods. There are others for various filter topologies. Some are more practical than others … Bob > On May 26, 2022, at 9:27 AM, John Lofgren > wrote: > > Bob, > > You may be thinking of Dishal's method. > < >

[time-nuts] Suggestions solicited for Pi/GPSDO ntp server

2022-05-26 Thread Lee Reynolds via time-nuts
Hi, Lords of Time! (Been a lurker for many years, just know too little to add but am always fascinated by your discussions. It almost reads like theological discursions at some points, it gets into such fine and abstruse points!) I think it's about time to retire my old former cell site

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Lux, Jim via time-nuts
On 5/26/22 8:24 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: The tweezers are really good *only* for single components - even if they come with test leads, that's for measuring something like a motor start capacitor. I tried using tweezers (cheap ones to be sure) to measure a moderately complex

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann via time-nuts
Am 2022-05-26 17:24, schrieb Richard (Rick) Karlquist via time-nuts: VNA's of any kind (no matter how small their size) don't work well on components that are too far away from 50 ohms, at least if you make a simple minded s11 smith chart measurement. There are complicated work-arounds for

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Andy Talbot via time-nuts
Google (other search engines are available :-) DISHAL Filter Tuning Very neat and quick way to tune up a filter using just return loss. Doesn't even require a VNWA. Andy www.g4jnt.com On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 16:40, Bob kb8tq via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi > > The real

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi The real answer to the problem is to dig into the bowels of 1940’s electronic craft. There are various methods for setting up an L/C filter. You short this / open that sweep to find a dip or a peak. You move it to the “right” place. Just what you do depends very much on the filter design.

[time-nuts] Re: measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist via time-nuts
I have had good results with the LCR Research tweezers. Search "LCR Research" on Amazon. They work great on anything you can pick up or probe with tweezers. The general disclaimer on any kind of component measuring device is: Virtually all of them are ONLY suitable for measuring a

[time-nuts] measuring tiny devices

2022-05-26 Thread Lux, Jim via time-nuts
On 5/25/22 3:16 PM, ed breya via time-nuts wrote: Thanks Mike, for info on LCR alternatives. It's good to know of others out there, if needed. I have an HP4276A and HP4271A. The 4276A is the main workhorse for all part checking, since it has a wide range of LCZ, although limited frequency