[time-nuts] Re: in-ground clock room

2021-09-08 Thread Bob Bownes
Temperature stability will vary with climate. Here in upstate NY, you’ll need to get to >50” of depth to start to get any real year round thermal stability. But a local civil engineer should know that number well. We also have to worry about water intrusion, even with concrete, depending on

[time-nuts] Time to part with my 5370B and 5372A

2021-08-25 Thread Bob Bownes
Hey folks, I've listed them elsewhere, but I have an HP 5370B (with the beaglebone upgrade) and a 5372A I'm thinning from the TE herd. PM me for more details if you are interested. Thanks, Bob ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com --

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese NTP Time server

2020-01-07 Thread Bob Bownes
Brian, TICC is one answer, HP 5370 would be another. They can often be had quite reasonably on ebay and, short of a SRI counter, seem to be the standard. There is one on ebay atm (item 401738800574) for 120 obo that, while missing the red filter on the front, probably just needs to have the

Re: [time-nuts] PC Time Servers

2019-12-30 Thread Bob Bownes
Localhost is yourself. Typically the IP address of 127.0.0.1 You could use LH to update the time on the machine she is running on. Bob > On Dec 30, 2019, at 21:52, Richard Mogford wrote: > > I have not been on this list since 2016 and have some new time questions. > > I am using a program

[time-nuts] Mac HP GPS Control

2019-11-15 Thread Bob Bownes
Long ago, I nabbed a demo copy of the Mac HP GPS Control software by Dave Anderson GM6JJJ. Recently I tried to register my copy only to find he was an SK and the registration part of his site is no longer in place. Even though I suspect development has stopped, I'd be interested in getting a

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Bob Bownes
I have a few of the 2 in 5 out video distribution amps. I took one apart and converted it to 50Ω from 75Ω, and to be honest, I can't really see a difference. Bob On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:08 AM Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Taka Kamiya wrote: > > > I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Cloudflare

2019-06-21 Thread Bob Bownes
Most of the good data centers I’ve used either offer a connection to a stratum 1 server or are more than happy to put a antenna on the roof. Many offer microwave as a third redundant circuit path, which requires an antenna. All for a price, of course. When I worked for an ILEC, many moons

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO 10MHZ Splitter

2019-06-21 Thread Bob Bownes
Sure, presuming the output is 50Ω, build a 50Ω power divider. The signal will be 3dB down on each of the outgoing legs vs the input. Plenty of designs if you google it. If the output is TTL, feed a 74xx04 on pin 1, send pin 2 to 3 and 5, pick up the output from 4 and 6. Or choose some other gate

Re: [time-nuts] inexpensive fiber optic distribution

2019-03-21 Thread Bob Bownes
To pull this back to time nuts territory, this brings up the idea of simply using traditional ethernet infrastructure, be it 100M/1G/10G/whatever at the PHY layer to achieve distribution of 1pps. The infrastructure is easily enough interfaced to, even a simple microprocessor can do it, using

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Battery Chargers, and a fading idolization of HP

2019-02-10 Thread Bob Bownes
> > Yes, those brown roughly 1" square caps used intact sheets of mica as > dielectric. You can easily split the mineral into uniform, thin, transparent > sheets. Beware inclusions that will make the surface rough and change the behavior, particularly breakdown voltages. > The reconstituted

Re: [time-nuts] Prescalers ?

2019-01-24 Thread Bob Bownes
Mark, I had pretty good luck with a Hittite prescaler built into a board for the 5328 as outlined by Bert, VE2ZAZ. http://ve2zaz.net/hp5328a/hp5328a_prescaler.htm It's a wee bit deaf as frequency goes up, but works just fine! Bob On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:00 AM Mark Spencer wrote: > Hi: >

Re: [time-nuts] Atomic Clocks: It is important that they keep good time, Part 1

2019-01-07 Thread Bob Bownes
Interesting. I was wondering this as well now that time-nuts has gotten me into collecting vintage (pre WWII) chronographs. Some are radium, some not, most are in need of a good repaint either way. But I do know that tritium gun sights are also a thing. Are those all mil-surplus or using some

Re: [time-nuts] FCC OTA pre-emption and restrictions on GPS antennas [was: Short term 10MHz source]

2019-01-04 Thread Bob Bownes
My t'bolt uses a classic magnetic GPS antenna stuck to the top of an old 5.25" disk drive cover laying on top of the screen in the bubble covered skylight in my office. Works as well as the timing antenna 30' the tower. :) On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:08 PM ew via time-nuts wrote: > Had in North

Re: [time-nuts] Atomic Clocks: It is important that they keep good time, Part 1

2019-01-04 Thread Bob Bownes
Add a tiny speaker so you can simulate the loud 'tick' of the analog clock. ;) On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM ed breya wrote: > Paul, what do you mean by the display "looking pretty ratty?" As I > recall, the original buck regulator had regulated output voltage around > 5V for the LEDs. and the

Re: [time-nuts] Racal Dana 9478 frequency distribution system with option 04B high stability oven (5x10^-10/day aging rate).

2018-11-08 Thread Bob Bownes
Video distribution amplifiers are a very good and inexpensive solution to this problem. Think I paid $5US for my 24 port one (which is actually 3x dual 1 in 4 out units). I converted one of them from 75 ohm to 50Ω and didn't bother doing the rest as it made no discernible difference for timing

Re: [time-nuts] How can I measure time-delay of a cable with HP 5370B time-interval counter?

2018-10-28 Thread Bob Bownes
Have you tried with just a single pulse? > On Oct 28, 2018, at 20:49, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: > > I'm trying to do something which would seem conceptually easy, but I'm > getting results I can't understand. I wish to measure the delay (in > seconds) of a bit of length of coaxial cable. >

[time-nuts] TIC part NLA

2018-10-09 Thread Bob Bownes
A while back, there was a discussion on a part used in an older TIC (IIRC) design that had changed pinout between 74xx and 74{LS,ALS,H,F,etc}xx and the design used the older part. Does anyone remember what the part number was? I found a largeish stash of 74xx parts last time I was scouring the

Re: [time-nuts] NIST

2018-09-01 Thread Bob Bownes
Mark, That would be most useful and free folks from a few of the proprietary satellite tracker programs. One could write a 'shim' to consume the output from a tcp/udp (or serial) port and convert to the proper format for a chosen polar or az/el rotor. Bob On Sat, Sep 1, 2018 at 2:00 PM Mark

Re: [time-nuts] Setting Time on WSPR Radio Transmitter

2018-06-22 Thread Bob Bownes
I can heartily recommend the QRP-Labs wspr beacon kit with GPS. It pull the time from an attached GPS module and will beacon on 2m and below. Once assembled and configured with your callsign and the bands you want to xmit on it Just Plain Works. It can even provide 1pps out. Pick the right GPS

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-18 Thread Bob Bownes
Power over Ethernet. 48V shipped down the ethernet wires. Generally used to power IP telephones, but WiFi Access points and other technologies have jumped on the bandwagon as well. On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 12:25 PM, Mike Feher wrote: > Hi all - > > Sorry for an ignorant question from an old

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-15 Thread Bob Bownes
IRIG-B generator/displays candy had on eBay for very little money. There’s one currently listed for about $10. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202337773272 Feeding one of these with the aforementioned NTP to IRIG – B is the easy solution. And

Re: [time-nuts] Affordable PoE 6-digit time displays?

2018-06-15 Thread Bob Bownes
Hal, I remember there being such a thing, but a search of the ntp site turns up nothing. Anything you can provide would be most welcome. Thanks! Bob On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:20 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > bow...@gmail.com said: > > I’m still hunting for something that will take NTP in and