Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-18 Thread Hal Murray
Dana Whitlow said: > Hal, my 10 MHz birdie is at a level of about -95 dBm, which puts it a little > more than 10 db above the noise floor in 3 kHz BW. My noise floor is fuzzy. The bottom is -110, even when the display goes down to -120. The fuzz is ~3 dB. My 10 MHz birdie looks like it is

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-18 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hal, my 10 MHz birdie is at a level of about -95 dBm, which puts it a little more than 10 db above the noise floor in 3 kHz BW. I've found that the "spur removal" function sometimes works, but not always, if I change the IF frequency setting to 433.9 MHz. It's mostly bimodal behavior- sometimes

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-18 Thread Hal Murray
notfad...@gmail.com said: > FWIW I don't have spurs at 10MHz. Have you looked carefully? I have to zoom in on the bandwidth in order to see it. Somebody else called it a birdie. My unit came from R I'm reasonably sure it's genuine. If I look at 10 MHz center and 25 or 100 k span, there is

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-18 Thread Dana Whitlow
> > > looking into to see if you have a sub-par copy. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/16/2021 12:00 PM, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > > > > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 05:

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-18 Thread Bill Notfaded
you have a clone or not. Might be worth > > looking into to see if you have a sub-par copy. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > On 1/16/2021 12:00 PM, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 05:45:19 -0600 > > > F

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-17 Thread Dana Whitlow
t; looking into to see if you have a sub-par copy. > > Dan > > > > > On 1/16/2021 12:00 PM, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 05:45:19 -0600 > > From: Dana Whitlow > > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-17 Thread Dan Kemppainen
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Another data point: My newly-received TinySA has a big birdie at 10 MHz, which is a disappointment since I had hoped to use the unit as a sniffer to track

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Mark Spencer
I use RG400 for most of my time nuts activities. When I switched from cheap RG58 style coax to RG400 a number of strange issues seemed to go away for me. Your mileage may vary (: Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com 604 762 4099 > On Jan 16, 2021, at 9:40 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote: > >>

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
You can get custom-made decent quality cables with double shielded coax (either RG-316D or RG-142) from China (where else?) for pretty low prices. I am sure the cable isn't mil-spec but I cut a piece open and the shield coverage, which is the main thing I worry about at HF frequencies, is

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Brian Lloyd
On 1/16/21 04:32, Hal Murray wrote: The 10 MHz is stronger near coax carrying 10 MHz and next to a Z3801A. I'll have to try some good cables. Anybody have a favorite source? Is there a magic word? Do I have to specify the type of coax? Yes. RG400 or RG316. Do NOT use RG58 or RG174. Both

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Mike Feher
: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA There is no birdies on mine that I can see, even as I decrease the RBW. - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 -Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Dana Whitlow Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:45 AM To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Mike Feher
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA Another data point: My newly-received TinySA has a big birdie at 10 MHz, which is a disappointment since I had hoped to use the unit as a sniffer to track down leaks in my 10 MHz distribution system. This birdie in the TinySA persists

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi > On Jan 16, 2021, at 5:32 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > My tinySA arrived a few days ago. I'm happy. > > It comes in a nice box with an antenna that extends to a foot, a USB charging > cable (mini, not micro) and a couple of cables. > > It doesn't come with a manual. I haven't found a

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Dana Whitlow
Another data point: My newly-received TinySA has a big birdie at 10 MHz, which is a disappointment since I had hoped to use the unit as a sniffer to track down leaks in my 10 MHz distribution system. This birdie in the TinySA persists even when nothing is connected to the input and does not vary

[time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-16 Thread Hal Murray
My tinySA arrived a few days ago. I'm happy. It comes in a nice box with an antenna that extends to a foot, a USB charging cable (mini, not micro) and a couple of cables. It doesn't come with a manual. I haven't found a manual online. Their web site is pretty good, but sometimes I like a