[time-nuts] Evaluating counter performance, seeking feedback.

2022-04-07 Thread Erik Kaashoek
To better understand the performance of a home build counter a comparison was done with a Picotest U6200A The two channel home build counter was setup to measure the frequency of the 10MHz output from a Rb on one channel and the 10MHz output from a not so good OCXO on the other channel. The

[time-nuts] HP5065A fs

2022-04-07 Thread timeok
Fs an HP5065A, the best ribidium ever produced on the market. In perfect condition with digital clock, complete with power cord. Xtal 00105. Electrolytic capacitors replaced, otherwise in original condition. 1450.oo € shipping included Central Europe, for other countries to check the

[time-nuts] Re: Ublox LEA-4T mentioned here. Have fired one up

2022-04-07 Thread paul swed
John I suspect we may be the only ones interested in these units. Can we connect offline? I am at paulsw...@gmail.com. With respect to Murphey Surplus they have been around for 30+ years. I think if you reach out to them they will take care of the issue of wrong/bad units. I have one damaged top

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread Lux, Jim
On 4/7/22 3:09 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: This BTULN OCXO looks very good. While they do mention that it contains its own regulator, no numbers are given, so it's hard to know what to make of that claim. I wouldn't assume battery power - but this is where a phone call helps - they'll be

[time-nuts] Steering UK time station MSF

2022-04-07 Thread Steven Sommars
NIST steers the WWV/WWVB/WWVH radio stations using GPS common view. Recent youtube piece on MSF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqciKS_N0K8 I was surprised that NPL (Teddington) steers MSF (Anthorn) based on the signals received at NPL. While this steering seems less accurate than GPS common

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Since this is Time Nuts … crazy isn’t always ruled out :) > ………. > “TSP #162 Tutorial on Theory, Characterization & Measurement > Techniques of Phase Noise" > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOHjFtw0sgo > > each 5db of improvement requires an order of magnitude increase in >

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Monett
Hello Time-Nuts fans, >From "Phase Noise Measurements and its Limitations", Synergy Microwave Corporation: https://synergymwave.com/articles/2013/04/full_article.pdf "There is an optimum condition and some of the measurements showing -190dBc/Hz do not seem to match the theoretical

[time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors

2022-04-07 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 07 Apr 2022 03:30:40 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 11 > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2022 04:04:37 +0200 > From: g...@hoffmann-hochfrequenz.de > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors > To: Discussion of precise time and

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 03:30:27 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 4 Multiple responses interspersed below. > > -- > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 07:13:32 -0700 > From: "Lux, Jim" > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Low

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 4/7/22 18:46, Lux, Jim wrote: Wenzel is not some giant WalMart of oscillators, with forklifts going hither and yon full of palletized ULNs - there are probably 50-60 people there total, so odds are, you'll be talking to someone who actually has touched (with gloves) your oscillator. This

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread ed breya
On 4/7/22 3:09 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > This BTULN OCXO looks very good. While they do mention that it > contains its own regulator, no numbers are given, so it's hard to > know what to make of that claim. > As far as I know, every OCXO and most everything else has its own internal supply