[time-nuts] FEI FE-5440A (TD-1251/U, O-1824A/U) Manual Request

2019-02-24 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts, Just wondering if anyone out there has a copy of the Frequency Electronics FE-5440A cesium clock manual? Yes, Silosurplus has one on ebay for a stupid price but I'm not THAT interested. The aviation version was the TD-1251/U and the mil version was the O-1824A/U. I would be more

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Dana Whitlow writes: >This would seem to imply that purposely overrating a 'lyt is pretty pointless. > >Any comments on this notion? I've always wondered that myself, and found very little documentation or wisdom available. As I understand it, even very brief voltage

[time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Mark Sims
Lady Heather has a feature designed just for this application. The TS keyboard command (and the /ts? command line options) allow setting the system clock from the time message sent by a GPS receiver (assuming the program has permission to set the clock). This typically gets the system time

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Dana Whitlow
I remember often reading that if you run a 'lyt at a voltage much reduced from its rating, the oxide layer would get thinner over time so that in the end, the effective rating of the capacitor was about what you had been running it at. This would seem to imply that purposely overrating a 'lyt is

Re: [time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Ben Bradley
I have a bit of a "crude but effective" idea regarding getting Daylight Savings and local time and such - get the current time (hour) from local cellular signals with a cellular phone module, like one of these: https://www.adafruit.com/category/281 If I understand correctly, you don't need

[time-nuts] Arduino clock with NTP Input and analog meter outputs

2019-02-24 Thread MITCHELL JANOFF
I’ve designed and built an Arduino based clock that receives the time from an NTP server, converts the time to voltages, and outputs the voltages to analog volt or ammeters using the PWM pins on the Arduino. The clock displays hours, minutes and seconds, each on a separate analog meters with

Re: [time-nuts] GN-GGB0710 GNSS Antenna

2019-02-24 Thread djl
Probably tapped for 1/2" pipe thread. Don On 2019-02-24 12:40, Ben Hall wrote: Good evening all, After almost a month in transit, my GN-GGB0710 GNSS antenna arrived from the auction site "we all know and love." ;) Unit was not tapped to a proper 5/8"-11 TPI thread. A standard 5/8-11 bolt

[time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Thomas D. Erb
for local time keeping with NEMA strings we just use a local offset with DST rules. Thomas D. Erb o:508-359-9684 p:508-359-4396 x 1700 f:508-359-4482 a:97 West Street, Medfield, MA 02052 USA e: t...@electrictime.com w:

[time-nuts] how to feed multiple GPS receivers ?

2019-02-24 Thread shouldbe q931
After starting off with a single GPS module on a RaspberryPi, and discovering the issues of just having a single clock... I now have three GPS receivers (and a fourth on the way) of various types, each with their own antenna. I'm aware that I'm heading off down an interesting road that will

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 24.02.19 um 14:39 schrieb Richard (Rick) Karlquist: yet they got a pass and became SOP.  The R lab manager at Santa Clara Division famously said "no customer chooses HP products because they have great power supplies." G..  My HP16500C has a defective PS and my 4274A RLC bridge

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread paul swed
Adrian I had the same thing in the same unit. I guess the electrolytic's were bad in allowing hum through. The tants go Bang and burn. Though all caps can go bang I suspect. Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:04 PM Adrian Godwin wrote: > Just to sneak that back on-topic .. the most recent

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Cesium Standards on Subs and Sperry

2019-02-24 Thread djl
Love milspec stories! Always reminds me of some of my favorite quotes: “Mechanical rules are never a substitute for clarity of thought.” -- Brian Kernighan ". . . rules are a substitute for thought . . ." -- Robert Gunning "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds . . ." --

Re: [time-nuts] Jackson Labs Phase Station

2019-02-24 Thread John Miles
> Hi all, > I have not found details about the new product of the Jackson Labs, the > Phase Station. > The new driver is now added to the V1.32 Beta version of Timelab. > It seems to be an alternative of Timepod. > Can anyone anticipate something? The PhaseStation 53100A can be thought of as the

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Adrian Godwin writes: >I think I've had as many shorted-out tants as dried-out electrolytics. I doubt Len worried about dry-out, he was worried about shorts. A lot of people failed, and still fail, to realize that tube-voltage electrolytics are an entirely different

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Cesium Standards on Subs and Sperry

2019-02-24 Thread jimlux
On 2/24/19 5:37 AM, Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems) wrote: While HP wasn't a direct defense contractor, we did sell a lot of test equipment to defense contractors.The big American submarines had a Cesium Standard or two as part of their instrumentation systems.I know little about the

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Cesium Standards on Subs and Sperry

2019-02-24 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 2/24/2019 5:37 AM, Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems) wrote: While HP wasn't a direct defense contractor, we did sell a lot of test equipment to defense contractors.The big American submarines had a Cesium Standard or two as part of their instrumentation systems.I know little about

[time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Mark Sims
I've looked at automatically determining the local time zone offset from UTC a few times... and always considered jumping off a cliff to be a better option. Huge, unreliable, always changing boundary data bases... local anomalies due to political reasons... lotsa really boring testing and

[time-nuts] GN-GGB0710 GNSS Antenna

2019-02-24 Thread Ben Hall
Good evening all, After almost a month in transit, my GN-GGB0710 GNSS antenna arrived from the auction site "we all know and love." ;) Unit was not tapped to a proper 5/8"-11 TPI thread. A standard 5/8-11 bolt went in maybe two full threads. I modified an old tap I had in the drawer into

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
Just to sneak that back on-topic .. the most recent tant failure I had was in a KS-24361. It was after the dc-dc converter so it didn't look like a short to the input - it just increased the current draw. Running off a cheap laptop supply, which overheated and melted instead of shutting down or

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
I think I've had as many shorted-out tants as dried-out electrolytics. It's just that they appear in 80s gear instead of 60s. Then there was the flood of high-esr electrolytics from when - early 2000s ? On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 1:10 PM Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems) < hugh.r...@hp.com> wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 2/24/2019 4:02 AM, Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems) wrote: Several people have asked about the Len Cutler ban on Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors in HP Frequency Standards. Rick Karlquist could shed more light on this too. The legend of the ban was passed along to me, perhaps by Lou

Re: [time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Yes, that would be a cool feature, but would come with complexity that would be best outside of such a core system. With enough interface, you could let an off-system configuration tool do that and then setup the time-zone rules. Conversion from position to time-zone and then look up the

[time-nuts] Jackson Labs Phase Station

2019-02-24 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Hi all, I have not found details about the new product of the Jackson Labs, the Phase Station. The new driver is now added to the V1.32 Beta version of Timelab. It seems to be an alternative of Timepod. Can anyone anticipate something? Luciano www.timeok.it

Re: [time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
This python package appears to do what you want https://github.com/MrMinimal64/timezonefinder So a small linux distribution on a raspberry pi zero (given that that also has the usual TZ database, if it's not all in the timezonebuilder data) would do the job. Maybe Lady Heather could use that to

[time-nuts] HP Stories: Cesium Standards on Subs and Sperry

2019-02-24 Thread Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems)
While HP wasn't a direct defense contractor, we did sell a lot of test equipment to defense contractors.The big American submarines had a Cesium Standard or two as part of their instrumentation systems.I know little about the application, but heard it was part of the communication

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: An architectural view of the HP 5060/5061 and awkward oscillator adjustments.

2019-02-24 Thread Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems)
Several people have asked about the Len Cutler ban on Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors in HP Frequency Standards. Rick Karlquist could shed more light on this too. The legend of the ban was passed along to me, perhaps by Lou Mueller, who liked to tell stories of the old days. In 1985, we

Re: [time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread John Reid
I would love something that gave a list of options set from the location in the NMEA string. Such as this time zone or different, with nearby zones first; DST on/off. Could get to be a significant effort very quickly, but maybe there are xml files out there that would make it easy? John On