Re: [time-nuts] Yet another GPSDO project.

2019-03-27 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi How much impact your distribution setup has on the OCXO phase noise depends a *lot* on how quiet the OCXO is. If it is in the -170 dbc/ Hz range, then pretty much anything can mess up the phase noise …. Bob > On Mar 27, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Tobias Pluess wrote: > > Hi Leo, > > sorry for

Re: [time-nuts] Yet another GPSDO project.

2019-03-27 Thread Tobias Pluess
By the way, I just did some more testing on stability. I once tried to use the internal PLL of the microcontroller to boost the OCXO frequency to the max. 72 MHz which my microcontroller accepts. While this would greatly increase the frequency measurement resolution, it decreased stability

Re: [time-nuts] Yet another GPSDO project.

2019-03-27 Thread Tobias Pluess
Hi Leo, sorry for my late reply. I have not yet measured the phase noise of my finished unit, since I am still waiting to complete my phase noise measurement equipment. However, I have a decent test report for my OCXO, where the phase noise spectrum is also plotted. I don't expect my

Re: [time-nuts] reply re Harrison's timing method - #13 in Vol 176, Issue 44 digest

2019-03-27 Thread Dana Whitlow
Relative to Harrison's method of star position measurement and timing, and the possible effects of diffraction thereof: Hanbury Brown's book "The Intensity Interferometer" may provide some useful insight about various error sources, even though in a different context, that of measurement of a

Re: [time-nuts] reply re Harrison's timing method - #13 in Vol 176, Issue 44 digest

2019-03-27 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 2:00 AM jimlux wrote: > > > To get 1 second accuracy, you need 360/86400 = 0.004 degree > measurements. That's 0.073 milliradian - 1 cm at 140 meter distance. > > I'm not sure an "edge" is sharp enough (diffraction, etc.), although > your eye is pretty good at

Re: [time-nuts] multimeter

2019-03-27 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Hi All, As you know I bought the yellow one. My Fluke 87V has arrived and I've been playing with it for a few hours. I love it. Most importantly for this group it read 5.000 on my voltage reference. But seriously what I love is its response, It's so much quicker than what I used before. The

Re: [time-nuts] reply re Harrison's timing method - #13 in Vol 176, Issue 44 digest

2019-03-27 Thread Kevin Birth
There is a large period literature on ³dialing² which not only included sundials, but all sorts of ways to measure time from celestial objects using angles. Discussions of trigonometry, surveying, navigation, and ³dyaling² in relationship were also quite common during the period. These could be

Re: [time-nuts] F9T Info

2019-03-27 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There are two programs that I am sure can communicate correctly with the F9T. 1) The ever popular Lady Heather (in the current beta). Thanks Mark !!. 2) The uBlox supplied uCenter program from version 19 on. I *suspect* that other programs can / will soon communicate as

Re: [time-nuts] F9T Info

2019-03-27 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Hi Bob, I would like to know if there is a program to communicate with the F9T. If I understand the acquisitions you have made with the TICC, they include a direct input from the 1PPS of the F9T and a PPS by dividing the 5MHz of the 5065. Is it correct? Luciano Da "time-nuts"

Re: [time-nuts] reply re Harrison's timing method - #13 in Vol 176, Issue 44 digest

2019-03-27 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Bruce: Would the David White 60 Degree Pendulum Astrolabe also work? https://prc68.com/I/PendulumAstrolabe.shtml -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke https://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html axioms: 1. The extent to which you can fix or improve something will be

Re: [time-nuts] reply re Harrison's timing method - #13 in Vol 176, Issue 44 digest

2019-03-27 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Of course the time scale will be much shorter for a star occulted by an edge etc on Earth. The longer time scale for a lunar occultation is due to the slower relative angular motion of the moon with respect to the star than the motion of the Earth with respect to a star. Bruce > On 27 March