Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
Hi Dana, The antennas were in the window, top of the lower pane of a two pane window. Certainly a better location that the antenna sitting on the desk. There were several other units that showed similar behaviors. I suppose it’s possible that there was interference. There were 7 antennas in 3

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Dana Whitlow
Denny, That is certainly a large difference. But I'm not clear on one point that could easily be very important: Were the two antennas for the separate antenna test indoors, or on the roof? If indoor, I kind of suspect that the difference might mostly be attributed to the change in antenna

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
I don’t seem to be able to attach the pics to the emails correctly to allow the mailing list software to process them. Rather than bombard everyone with any more attempts, I put them up on Dropbox. You can find the pics here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fbbfuydqac5qqql/AAADkwrcVL8u5nkHvi8ecMe3a

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
[Resend—hopefully pics come through this time] One additional interesting thing which I didn’t anticipate is the effect of moving from multiple (puck) antennas to a single antenna. The graph below shows the relationship between two LeoNTP units in the local network as perceived by chrony. The

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
[Resend—hopefully pics come through this time] Thanks Bob, this is in fact what I ended up doing. I bought a pair of the L1 / L2 / L5 antennas from China, one for rooftop mounting at the new site, and one for testing. I paired it with a splitter from GPS Networking. 35 feet of RG-213 from the

Re: [time-nuts] Amazon AWS time sync service

2019-04-29 Thread Tim Shoppa
Long-term there is no drift to measure between regions. With each region on its own GPS receivers and atomic clocks, it seems much more likely that anything you measure will be asymmetries in network delays between regions. Note that like Google has since 2008, AWS "Time Sync" also smears out

Re: [time-nuts] Amazon AWS time sync service

2019-04-29 Thread Kevin Franzen
Note that AWS uses something they call smearing for leap seconds. Before you use that service, make sure this is something you want. -Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Vlad Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 11:14 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Looks like that should work. Don’t forget about grounding / lightning protection … Bob > On Apr 29, 2019, at 2:21 PM, Denny Page wrote: > > Thanks Bob, this is in fact what I ended up doing. I bought a pair of the L1 > / L2 / L5 antennas from China, one for rooftop mounting at the new

[time-nuts] Quartzlock A7 Questions

2019-04-29 Thread Adam MacDonald
Folks, I'm awaiting delivery of a Quartzlock A7 (older version, pre-A model, or A7-MX).  I found a reference from Riley to a link to the spec sheet which has since been removed from Quartzlock's site.  I have a decent idea of operation from reading the A7-A manual, but I suspect there are some

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
Thanks Bob, this is in fact what I ended up doing. I bought a pair of the L1 / L2 / L5 antennas from China, one for rooftop mounting at the new site, and one for testing. I paired it with a splitter from GPS Networking. 35 feet of RG-213 from the antenna to the splitter, and 3 feet of rg-58

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-04-29 Thread Denny Page via time-nuts
One additional interesting thing which I didn’t anticipate is the effect of moving from multiple (puck) antennas to a single antenna. The graph below shows the relationship between two LeoNTP units in the local network as perceived by chrony. The system clock is synced to the first LeoNTP

[time-nuts] Amazon AWS time sync service

2019-04-29 Thread Vlad
Hello Folks ! Some time ago Amazon AWS has introduced "Time Sync Service" https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2017/11/introducing-the-amazon-time-sync-service/ Looks like it is just some NTPD (based on chrony). I am wandering how to measure drift between of AWS regions (internal

Re: [time-nuts] The Clock That Changed the World (BBC History of the World)

2019-04-29 Thread Adrian Godwin
I'd been to Greenwich more than once, but it was Dava Sobell's book, Longitude, that allowed me to understand their importance and seek them out. On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 1:00 PM Jim Palfreyman wrote: > Thanks Brooke. > > I remember walking into the Greenwich Museum for the first time, NOT >

Re: [time-nuts] The Clock That Changed the World (BBC History of the World)

2019-04-29 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Thanks Brooke. I remember walking into the Greenwich Museum for the first time, NOT KNOWING that Harrison's clocks were in there. And ticking away. Just amazing. Jim On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 13:00, Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > Video of working Harrison clocks. > https://youtu.be/T-g27KS0yiY