Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread Scott Newell
At 07:38 PM 3/9/2019, jimlux wrote: Has anyone tried a +5V to +15V DC/DC to run an OCXO, getting the 5V from one of those rechargeable USB power bricks. I was thinking about portable operation. My USB power bricks shut off the 5 V output if there's not enough load. Something to watch for.

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
Let me try it.  I have a few of those 5V USB power supply.  I have on my desk, DC/DC converter that will take whatever to whatever.  Got a dozen from Amazon.  I'll set it to 12V.  I'm sure it will work in some fashion.  I've used unknown power supply (switching type) for various things, and I

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread ed breya
Jim said: The question is really more one of "how much filtering do I need to design into the downstream power supply circuits" The answer of course depends on the source and receiver of the noise. Common USB type systems and accessories are built to maximize cheapness, pass EMC testing well

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Part of the problem is radiated / mag coupled spur energy. One of the things that makes the fancier switchers more friendly is that they can contain this better. Bob > On Mar 10, 2019, at 12:10 PM, jimlux wrote: > > On 3/10/19 8:58 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: >> Check out the

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread jimlux
On 3/10/19 8:58 AM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Check out the LT3045-1. Ive used the LT3042 in a space application, it is basically the same thing with lower output current. The really great thing is that the rejection extends up to 10 MHz. It is an ultra low noise (2nv) linear

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 10.03.19 um 15:54 schrieb jimlux: True.. but there are a plethora of the USB 5V power blocks around - in general, there are lots of USB 5V (noisy, I'm sure), e.g. Cars now have 5V USB jacks, so I was thinking about designing with that in mind. The question is really more one of "how much

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Check out the LT3045-1. It is an ultra low noise (2nv) linear regulator with very high PSRR that has a 1 MHz bandwidth. The -1 version can control an external switcher (or linear) regulator ahead of it, where the voltage drop across the LT3045-1 can be set to, say 1V, and the front end supply

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread Bob Camp
with the latest versions. Bob From: jimlux Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 9:00 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks" Has anyone tried a +5V to +15V DC/DC to run an OCXO, getting the 5V from on

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-10 Thread jimlux
On 3/9/19 7:42 PM, Gerhard Hoffmann wrote: Am 10.03.19 um 01:38 schrieb jimlux: Has anyone tried a +5V to +15V DC/DC to run an OCXO, getting the 5V from one of those rechargeable USB power bricks.  I was thinking about portable operation. In my case, the OCXO is something like a Wenzel

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-09 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
Nortel GPTM operates on 24 or 48V DC.  Internally, there is a step down dc/dc converter and 3 terminal regulators.  It creates whatever it needs internally.  So it can be done.  It does have quite a bit of filtering though.  I have run Oven oscillators with a regular cheap switcher.  Spec says

Re: [time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-09 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 10.03.19 um 01:38 schrieb jimlux: Has anyone tried a +5V to +15V DC/DC to run an OCXO, getting the 5V from one of those rechargeable USB power bricks.  I was thinking about portable operation. In my case, the OCXO is something like a Wenzel streamline. I would think that the DC/DC

[time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-09 Thread Mark Sims
Usually they are very noisy, with the noise rising rapidly with load current. goughlui.com, lygte-info.dk, and a few others have published some tests. I think bigclive has also done some tests. -- > How quiet is the output from those USB battery things..I've used one to run a

[time-nuts] Power supply for OCXO using "USB power blocks"

2019-03-09 Thread jimlux
Has anyone tried a +5V to +15V DC/DC to run an OCXO, getting the 5V from one of those rechargeable USB power bricks. I was thinking about portable operation. In my case, the OCXO is something like a Wenzel streamline. I would think that the DC/DC probably has some noise, but maybe DC/DC to a