Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Javier Serrano
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: I was about to ask for the specific papers of time calibrations, even if the overview presentation indicates that the verification steps I expect to be there have been done. Also the path calibrations needs

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 25/09/11 08:35, Javier Serrano wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: I was about to ask for the specific papers of time calibrations, even if the overview presentation indicates that the verification steps I expect to be there have been

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread EWKehren
Fiber has to follow the curvature of the earth I do not think neutrinos do. Bert In a message dated 9/25/2011 4:08:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org writes: On 25/09/11 08:35, Javier Serrano wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Magnus Danielson

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Jim Cotton
What about rotation of the earth? Jim Cotton n8qoh On 9/25/11 2:35 AM, Javier Serrano wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: I was about to ask for the specific papers of time calibrations, even if the overview presentation indicates that

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CAHBYzfTXMdD3onFJxAMQN==jv1lrlh1s7enwnrvzlhjov6p...@mail.gmail.com, Javier Serrano wr ites: Do you have direct fiber between the locations? You mean between CERN and Gran Sasso? No, but that's certainly something we could explore for the future. 700km is too far to expect a dark

Re: [time-nuts] Any thoughts on best rubidium?

2011-09-25 Thread Robert Deliën
One other thing is that some spectrum analyzers aren't really designed for low noise performance. Since the noise floor is often pretty high, the design of the whole RF chain (e.g. spur levels and such) might have assumed that lots of things would be hidden in the grass. True, it's one of

Re: [time-nuts] Any thoughts on best rubidium?

2011-09-25 Thread Robert Deliën
Do you know how the HP/Agilent 4395A stacks up as a SA? I really like the true RMS power detection and the 1 Hz RBW (not video).

Re: [time-nuts] Any thoughts on best rubidium?

2011-09-25 Thread EWKehren
If you want low noise in a spectrum analyzer it all comes down to the signal quality into the first mixer. Every thing else with today's technology is down hill. Bert Kehren In a message dated 9/25/2011 5:32:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rob...@delien.nl writes: One other thing is

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
What about rotation of the earth? Jim, Correct, there is the Sagnac effect to account for when you travel easterly or westerly with a portable cesium clock (or equivalently, when you send E/M timing signals over wire, fiber, or up/down to a satellite). Typically the correction is built into

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Javier Serrano
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: I assumed so from the statements relating to time, in particular the PTB time transfer test proving a 2,3 ns difference. Which still doesn't satisfy my curiosity. We still don't have the final PTB report.

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 25/09/11 21:14, Javier Serrano wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: I assumed so from the statements relating to time, in particular the PTB time transfer test proving a 2,3 ns difference. Which still doesn't satisfy my curiosity.

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: The preliminary PTB report does not have info on what the waveforms look like going into the SR620. It only implies that the trigger levels were set at 1.0 volts. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.End2PartyGovernment.com/ We still don't have the final PTB

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Hal Murray
javier.serrano.par...@gmail.com said: A fiber-based time-transfer would be nice complementary as it would provide an independent timing path. Any ideas on how to proceed? This is unknown territory for me. You can get a lot of good ideas from the radio astronomers. It's been discussed here

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Jim Lux
On 9/25/11 3:26 PM, Hal Murray wrote: javier.serrano.par...@gmail.com said: A fiber-based time-transfer would be nice complementary as it would provide an independent timing path. Any ideas on how to proceed? This is unknown territory for me. You can get a lot of good ideas from the radio

Re: [time-nuts] Fast than light neutrino

2011-09-25 Thread Neville Michie
I may be a bit naive, but how would physically carrying several caesium clocks back and forth compare to these fibre optic methods? cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to