Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread wb6bnq
of the fundementals of which your questions to this list are centered omn. 73BillWB6BNQ Bob Albert wrote: My TS-940S acts as though it receives okay at 60 kHz. Not great sensitivity but it does receive. Most HP GPS receivers are expensive ($400?). I was hoping to get some results

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB modulation format receivers (NOT)

2014-02-21 Thread wb6bnq
There are plenty of other publications, but no need to overload you too early in the game. The stuff above will give you a basic understanding of the fundementals of which your questions to this list are centered omn. 73BillWB6BNQ Bob Albert wrote: My TS-940S acts as though it receives okay

Re: [time-nuts] Another atomic clock question

2014-03-01 Thread wb6bnq
Bob, I am curious, a week or so ago I sent you an email that gave links to some publications that would serve you very well in helping you to achieve your goals. Did you ever get that email and look at the linked PDF files ? ? ? ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Albert wrote: Chris, Okay you want

Re: [time-nuts] 74HCT9046A Max. Operating Frequency

2014-04-24 Thread wb6bnq
Hello Samuel, Well, I just got done designing and building the very same thing. If I recall correctly it is the same as the HC4046 which is 4 MHz. The 9046 VCO will only go up to 20 MHz absolute maximum. So you will need an external oscillator and dividers. BillWB6BNQ sg sg wrote

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 rubidium on eBay

2014-05-10 Thread wb6bnq
Corby, It would be nice to have included the eBay item number. BillWB6BNQ cdel...@juno.com wrote: Hi, I'm selling a nice PRS10 on eBay if anyone is interested. With manual and schematics. Works great! Cheers, Corby Dawson ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Is it Hz or MHz ?

2014-06-02 Thread wb6bnq
that is +/-0.00025 Hertz error. At 1 MHz it is +/-0.5 Hertz error. And, finally, at 1 Hertz it is +/-0.005 Hertz error. BillWB6BNQ Kit Scally wrote: Team Nutters, GPSDO's are often specified for stability as so many parts per x. Using a Symmetricom 8040C as an example, this has

Re: [time-nuts] Is it Hz or MHz ?

2014-06-02 Thread wb6bnq
as to the purpose of the specification. Although I probably should have qualified a bit more. It goes without saying that one should be careful when it comes to specmanship no matter who it is. BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote: The value of 5E^-11 refers to the resolution that the precision

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller

2014-06-18 Thread wb6bnq
frequency. The digital version does not permit any ANALOG control. Bert's board is for the newer style DIGITAL version. BillWB6BNQ Dave Brown wrote: Hi Bert Will this work with all 5680s? I understood (but may be wrong) that there are several versions of the 5680. I guess if the serial

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 GPS Disciplined Controller

2014-06-19 Thread wb6bnq
is. But as I recall it was covered in a couple of PDF files by people who were showing how to connect and other such data about the older version. BillWB6BNQ Charles Steinmetz wrote: Bill wrote: There are two types of FE5680's. The older style used an ANALOG approach to controlling

Re: [time-nuts] DIY FE-5680A lobotomy (disable temp compensation)

2014-06-28 Thread wb6bnq
and is electrically NON-conductive. Food for thought, BillWB6BNQ Scott Newell wrote: Bert asked me to send an update on the FE-5680 tempco mod progress. It appears that the FE-5680A temperature signal (or maybe it's really a current sense signal?) can be disabled by removing a single 10k

Re: [time-nuts] Yokogawa TA320 Time Interval Analyzer

2014-10-06 Thread wb6bnq
Dave, Should have included the main page for that instrument. Here it is: http://tmi.yokogawa.com/us/discontinued-products/other-test-measurement-instruments/time-interval-analyzers/ta320-time-interval-analyzer/ BillWB6BNQ Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: I see

Re: [time-nuts] Yokogawa TA320 Time Interval Analyzer

2014-10-06 Thread wb6bnq
Hi Dave, Here is a link to the manual for that unit. http://tmi.yokogawa.com/files/uploaded/ta320spec.pdf BillWB6BNQ Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: I see this on eBay http://m.ebay.com/itm/220505574616 Note that the seller has misspelled the manufacturers name. Has

Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz Rubidium reference source for frequency counter

2014-10-27 Thread wb6bnq
(up to days) is last, again, with respect to accuracy. BillWB6BNQ Karen Tadevosyan wrote: Many thanks for all your recommendations. Let me provide more details for understanding of my task. I am playing with a GPSDO project on base of uBlox NEO-7M (http://www.ra3apw.ru/ublox-neo-7m-ocxo

[time-nuts] 5 to 10 MHz Quad Driven Mixer doubler article

2014-11-19 Thread wb6bnq
list of manuals and other papers etc.. 73BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom FRK and M100 question

2012-10-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Corby, Will it start when it gets cold ? How long do you have to let it cool before it will re ignite ? Perhaps the lamp oscillator has a problem where it will not oscillate when hot with the momentary lost of power. BillWB6BNQ cdel...@juno.com wrote: It's been a few years since I

Re: [time-nuts] Accurate timestamping on computers (previously: For mywhole life timezones have been weird)

2012-11-03 Thread WB6BNQ
to me your clock should not be an issue in of itself. However, I am retired, as such, do not have a watch and pay little attention to the wall clock. BillWB6BNQ Sarah White wrote: On 11/3/2012 5:32 AM, Sarah White wrote: So, at or around 1981 (the year I was born) there was a cool concept

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
. As for the FE-5680 Rb, it would require some filtering and such. Instead of trying to modify the radio for a direct feed from the Rb it would serve you better as a source in a PLL type arrangement. Just my two cents. So give us more details. BillWB6BNQ Joseph Gray wrote: I know that some here

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
a linear relationship for off frequency. I still need to figure out how to measure these voltages with an ADC and interface to a R-Pi. Just a fun project, I thought. Joe Gray W5JG On Nov 4, 2012 4:15 PM, WB6BNQ [1]wb6...@cox.net wrote: Hi Joe

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring gpsdo vs itself

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Tom, I think you missed the point. He is trying to measure the noise floor of the counter itself. So what he wants to know is if using the same signal for the time base and input, would that cancel out the signals contribution to the noise measurement. BillWB6BNQ Tom Van Baak wrote

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB new modulation

2012-11-22 Thread WB6BNQ
, BillWB6BNQ Hal Murray wrote: jim...@earthlink.net said: Actually, I think the developing company does have patents on some of the receiver implementations. You can probably design around them. What's the fine print in this area? Does NIST have any PR blurbs covering patents

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread WB6BNQ
mount types. Do yourself a favor and look at the following URL and download the reprint of the QST article. http://www.rt66.com/~shera/index_fs.htm BillWB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: Now you can see the problem with designs that require both a PCB and a programmed uP. Most people can't

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives - Bert's boards

2012-12-07 Thread WB6BNQ
Hello Bert, The boards look nice but tell me nothing of the circuitry. How about sending the schematics ?? That way I can appreciate what it is that you have. BillWB6BNQ p.s. By the way, what ever happen with that DMTD you were going to produce about three years ago ? ewkeh...@aol.com

Re: [time-nuts] Switching oscillators

2012-12-09 Thread WB6BNQ
generator that is automatic when the shore power drops. My two cents, BillWB6BNQ Joseph Gray wrote: For my use, I don't think the switching glitch will be a concern. Most of the time, the equipment will be in a standby mode. There is a high probability

Re: [time-nuts] Switching oscillators

2012-12-09 Thread WB6BNQ
, usually most things get to nominal room temperature inside of 24 hours. So, in that case RETRACE and WARMUP would mean virtually the same thing. BillWB6BNQ Bob Camp wrote: Hi That's one interpretation and one method of measurement. The other method is to measure frequency shift

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-10 Thread WB6BNQ
would be a reasonable goal. BillWB6BNQ Sarah White wrote: On 12/10/2012 6:10 PM, Arthur Dent wrote: I believe that the high temperature alarm you see is triggered at 50 degrees C. If that is what you're seeing without artificially raising the temperature of the Thunderbolt

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt oven / non-stable operating temperature

2012-12-10 Thread WB6BNQ
to the air conditioning cycle. BillWB6BNQ Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: That temperature sensor does have an effect on the final outcome as it is part of the internal equation. So buffering the ambient temperature is important. I've heard this before, but the evidence I have seen does not seem

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Fabio, I am not crazy about your 10 MHz input circuit. You might want to consider investigating John Miles input arrangement at the following web site: http://www.ke5fx.com/ac.htm I used it to drive an input to a divider chip without the output resistor or capacitor. BillWB6BNQ fabi

Re: [time-nuts] hammond 77589

2013-01-15 Thread WB6BNQ
just like your unit. Is your roughly the same size ? Do you know or have a picture of what it came out of ? BillWB6BNQ Jean-Louis Noel wrote: Hi all, Will someone know what it could be? http://www.stben.net/DSC_0338.JPG http://www.stben.net/DSC_0339.JPG Thanks for your help. Bye

Re: [time-nuts] How far can I push a crystal?

2013-01-17 Thread WB6BNQ
and pushing things around trying stretch components. BillWB6BNQ Ed Breya wrote: I've got to make a very clean 10.0594... MHz VCXO for a redo of one of my old circuits. I previously used a 10 MHz ceramic resonator, which was easy enough to push around in frequency. Of course, I have a couple

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise power supplies?

2013-01-30 Thread WB6BNQ
YUP, The C-130 aircraft uses larger than car battery size wet NiCd to fire up the Genset that is used to start the Tubo-prop jet engines. Definitely has lower resistance then the Lead-Acid wet cell. BillWB6BNQ Arthur Dent wrote: But the only NiCd I know about are the AA sized ones. I

Re: [time-nuts] question for expert time guys

2013-02-01 Thread WB6BNQ
, as well as, going direct to the manufacturers for such OEM products. I do not know if you are aware of it, but and finale product that transmits over the air may need FCC certification. Other sections might apply in certain circumstances. BillWB6BNQ Rick Harold wrote: To time experts

Re: [time-nuts] question for expert time guys

2013-02-01 Thread WB6BNQ
, as well as, going direct to the manufacturers for such OEM products. I do not know if you are aware of it, but and finale product that transmits over the air may need FCC certification. Other sections might apply in certain circumstances. BillWB6BNQ Rick Harold wrote: To time experts/EE's

Re: [time-nuts] VCXO in a watch timing machine

2013-02-04 Thread WB6BNQ
some of the circuit parameters to make sure things seem proper. BillWB6BNQ john wrote: Hi I'm hoping to get some information on the VCXO that sits in my watch timing machine. The timer is a Chinese clone of a Witschi timer - the heart of the thing is an 18MHz VCXO marked 'SCTF 03

Re: [time-nuts] VCXO in a watch timing machine

2013-02-05 Thread WB6BNQ
as they talk about checking motors and buzzer noise from the watch. That being the case it is more likely the 18 MHz should be right on frequency. Well, unless we hear back from the guy and he answers questions put to him, we really won't know whats up. BillWB6BNQ Ed Breya wrote: How do you know

Re: [time-nuts] VCXO in a watch timing machine

2013-02-05 Thread WB6BNQ
study of the circuitry. Good luck, BillWB6BNQ john wrote: Hi Some very good questions - thanks for the responses. No schematic (or documentation of any description - Ebay purchase), but I've done some dismantling and had a poke around with a multimeter. This is what I find

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A DDS Board/PIC Code

2013-02-18 Thread WB6BNQ
system is really two different processes. The FEI-5680A number is the generic case and layout style, etc. and another order number is attached that tells what is actually arranged inside. So, the upshot is the older arrangement is easier to play with. Hope this has been helpful, BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Chris, Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including shipping ? Thank you, BillWB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: snip I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But basically the same over all ideas he used. At $5 each with shipping included TI is losing

Re: [time-nuts] Time shown as two horizontal bars

2013-04-01 Thread WB6BNQ
. A second row would have 5 for the 10 minute marks. The third row would be the hours with just the 12 LEDs but by using dual color LEDs you could cover day and night. Just thought I would complicate your project BillWB6BNQ Bill Hawkins wrote: Looking for a long, thin horizontal

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-06 Thread WB6BNQ
that will help you get familiar with the family line. If you have problems with the link let me know. Also, after you get a successful download let me know so I can reduce the FTP storage level, thank you. http://pages.suddenlink.net/stevewingate/cryptic1/for alec on 5650-option-58.zip BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-07 Thread WB6BNQ
of it on a short term basis. Thank you, BillWB6BNQ Alexander Wright wrote: On 07/04/13 17:56, Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi Alex, These units were used as timing references for secure communication systems (Havequick). see ebay item 130832014630. Unfortunatly they are an older design

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Alexander Wright wrote: On 07/04/13 21:55, WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Alec, I am going to agree with Robert (G8RPI) on his assessment, particularly as the dip switches are clearly visible in one of the pictures. Although I wonder why Robert feels unfortunate about the [ two chip DDS

Re: [time-nuts] ngTADD-1

2013-04-23 Thread WB6BNQ
Devices has an exact replacement. For my use, I have been working on a layout that would duplicate it but also add the TOSLINK feature so I can get the house standard over to the radio room from my (so-called) Lab. JUst food for thought, BillWB6BNQ Kevin Rosenberg wrote: On Apr 22

Re: [time-nuts] OT: eBay Contact Congress

2013-04-23 Thread WB6BNQ
. No matter your view point about eBay, their concern is real and should be of concern by everyone else. Particularly, as it is being handled to push it through so fast without the proper vetting. BillWB6BNQ J. Forster wrote: Hi, I recieved a very odd communication, apparently from eBay

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Adjustment Question

2013-05-08 Thread WB6BNQ
you could disassemble the Cushman oscillator and replace the variable capacitor. That would improve things a little but no where near what can be done with the Marion 89A. Hope this is helpful, BillWB6BNQ Frederick Bray wrote: This might be slightly off-topic, but probably

Re: [time-nuts] 10Mhz Sine from Square Wave Synthesizer

2013-05-20 Thread WB6BNQ
the replacement crystal oscillate. The 9.8304 MHz is related to various baud rates and also some clocking frequencies for sound cards. So, don't throw it away as it is still useful. If nothing else you could phase lock a 10 MHz oscillator to it as there is a connecting ratio. BillWB6BNQ Andy

Re: [time-nuts] 9390 GPS RX

2013-05-23 Thread WB6BNQ
the thermistor as they easily break and the leads are most certainly brittle after all these years. Sounds like you need to verify all the power supply voltage levels are correct before anything else. Most importantly, do not jump to conclusions to quickly. BillWB6BNQ Mark C. Stephens wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Low noise voltage regulators

2010-02-24 Thread WB6BNQ
be adjusted to make sure the single diode (in place of the 2N3904 circuit) is shut off when the TL-431 comes up to speed. Obviously, this would be best with intended output voltages above the reference level. BillWB6BNQ Bruce Griffiths wrote: I meant something like the attached circuit

Re: [time-nuts] Z3805 utility, Was: AW: (no subject)

2010-05-22 Thread WB6BNQ
Bob, For the sake of propriety please don't propagate myths. The RS- series of standards predate Radio Shack. The wiki at the following address has a good write-up about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-232 And, yes it is standardized. Although many have abused it. BillWB6BNQ Bob

Re: [time-nuts] TPLL secret reveled

2010-06-09 Thread WB6BNQ
? Hopefully, all this will get straighten out and we will all benefit from it. BillWB6BNQ Steve Rooke wrote: Warren, From what I hear you say, the calculation of ADEV requires frequency measurements spaced at accurate Tau intervals. It is also evident that, although frequency

Re: [time-nuts] EFC tracking

2010-06-26 Thread WB6BNQ
Steve, I think using a voltage-to-frequency converter would solve that problem. They are not too expensive and there are several flavors from Amalog devices and some others. Just set it for a 1KHz start point or maybe 10KHz. BillWB6BNQ Steve Rooke wrote: I would like to track the EFC

Re: [time-nuts] EFC tracking

2010-06-26 Thread WB6BNQ
that being the file creation and storage, hopefully in a raw PCM format (i.e., no compression. I am not sure what is required for the circuit of the VFC these days but it shouldn't be anymore complex then that of building up a CPU and so forth. Good luck with the project, 73BillWB6BNQ Steve

Re: [time-nuts] Traceable to NIST...??

2010-06-28 Thread WB6BNQ
1ppm. Another, more relevant to timenuts, is the constant improvement of frequency standards. BillWB6BNQ Michael Baker wrote: Hello, Time Nutters-- Traceable to NIST...? All you need is this LPRO Rb osc being disciplined by a GPSDO and you can claim NIST traceability? Not the way I

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom X72

2010-07-24 Thread WB6BNQ
stability and the second being accuracy. Even if it is not SPOT on accurate with a world reference does not make it UN-usable as stability would be the more sought after parameter in any case. So, I disagree with your premise, BillWB6BNQ Heathkid wrote: Hello Bob, What would you

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom X72

2010-07-24 Thread WB6BNQ
have an atomic frequency reference, then sit the FEI-5680 on the coffee table; job done. One cannot be properly guided if the goals are unknown. BillWB6BNQ Bob Camp wrote: Hi The only way to be sure of what's going on is to have several (hopefully) accurate references. With at least

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5335A and HP-IB (GP-IB)

2010-08-01 Thread WB6BNQ
John, It will also work for Ulrich's Plotter program and that maybe all that is needed for a timenut purpose. No ? BillWB6BNQ John Miles wrote: Depends on what he wants to do. If he wants to write his own apps for the counter (or use mine) the Prologix controller will work fine. You

Re: [time-nuts] radioactive decay rates change?

2010-08-24 Thread WB6BNQ
Poul, That is absolutely not true ! Those CS-133's work very hard radiating from F1 to F2 and back again at 9+ GHz ! BillWB6BNQ Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 4c72f32a.9000...@elfpen.com, Chris Howard writes: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2010/august/sun-082310.html Any

Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum

2010-08-24 Thread WB6BNQ
to ask him his feelings but may require his permission for use of his list moniker. BillWB6BNQ Stanley Reynolds wrote: Started setting up a time-nuts board at: http://forums.n4iqt.com/modules.php?name=Forums Need ideas for topics. Stanley

Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum

2010-08-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Steve Rooke wrote: Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach on a lawyer's trademarks. Is he trading under that name? Steve Sure ! By providing an Email list service under that name. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Bulletin Board / Forum

2010-08-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Steve, That is true, but money is not everything and the argument of detriment to one's good name could be made. BillWB6BNQ Steve Rooke wrote: On 26 August 2010 07:09, WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net wrote: Steve Rooke wrote: Magnus Yeah, it probably isn't a good idea to poach

Re: [time-nuts] OT: weather stations

2010-09-03 Thread WB6BNQ
and chart form. Am I reading that right ? Or, which one of the displays is from your weather station ? Thanks for clearing that up for us dummys that don't have a weather station, 73BillWB6BNQ k6...@comcast.net wrote: I'm also running weather display: http://home.comcast.net

Re: [time-nuts] Freestanding mast

2010-09-03 Thread WB6BNQ
it being a PITA as for climbing. Each section is only 8 feet in length but narrows as it goes up. It is possible with the right base to have it in a tilt-over arrangement. Otherwise, it helps to rent a man-lift to do the assembly if you got the guts to go in one. BillWB6BNQ Tom Holmes wrote

Re: [time-nuts] GPS ceramic patch in what plastic housing?

2010-09-05 Thread WB6BNQ
Good point Chuck, Finding jars these days that are made out of glass is becoming a thing of the past. So many things are going plastic. BillWB6BNQ Chuck Harris wrote: Why go to that much trouble. An old pickle jar would probably do just as well. -Chuck Harris WB6BNQ wrote: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Maintenance manual for Racal 1998 and 1999universal counter timers

2010-09-05 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Charles, Well I am registered there and went to see. Sure enough it was there as a zip file and I downloaded it and then sent by email to David. BillWB6BNQ Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: David wrote: I'm looking for this - has any one found a copy in the wild? This site purports

Re: [time-nuts] Chuck Norton's passing

2010-09-06 Thread WB6BNQ
Pete, That is truly sad news to hear. He will be missed. Please pass on my condolences to the family. Thank you, Bill Houlne WB6BNQ Pete Rawson wrote: Unfortunately, Chuck Norton, owner of Frequency Standards Services, Colorado Springs, died Friday, 3 September 2010 in Denver's

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
to the transmitter over any LORAN signal (when working) which is much further away. BillWB6BNQ Hal Murray wrote: ra...@ralphsmith.org said: There are probably several fatal flaws with this approach. In particular, the following are required: 1) Ability to maintain constant lock to WWV 2

Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

2010-10-05 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 63077.12.6.201.2.1286310871.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com, J. Fors ter writes: That's why I think an amateur timing LORAN network might be quite feasable. Imagine a dozen 1 KW PEP A-LORAN stations with Rb and GPS scattered around the US

Re: [time-nuts] Meter face for HP-4805A

2010-10-12 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ shali...@gmail.com wrote: I have an HP-4508A Vector Voltmeter that has a bad case of meter paint peeling. I took pictures to have in case it gets worse (which it probably will), but I am concerned that any attempt at taking the meters apart (as I would need to actually scan

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintage HP/DymecDY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-12 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ paul swed wrote: Boy do I agree with that. If Diddier is reading this, wonder if we could add a meter scale to your fine manual repository? Regards On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Rex r...@sonic.net wrote: The ability to easily do this kind of graphics stuff (scanning

Re: [time-nuts] Meter face for HP-4805A

2010-10-12 Thread WB6BNQ
OK, found it http://tonnesoftware.com/meter2.html BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: It seems to me, There was a program or two that someone (or more) had written to do meter scaling. It was designed to print properly on an hp laserjet as I recall. At the moment am unable to find it in my

Re: [time-nuts] Possibly OT - Any interest in a vintageHP/DymecDY-5842 VLF receiver?

2010-10-12 Thread WB6BNQ
OK, found it http://tonnesoftware.com/meter2.html BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: It seems to me, There was a program or two that someone (or more) had written to do meter scaling. It was designed to print properly on an hp laserjet as I recall. At the moment am unable to find it in my

[time-nuts] Meter Scale printing program

2010-10-12 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] WWVB NIST Radio Time Receiver

2010-10-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Brian, As only one of the listed frequencies are usable in the US, you would do better buying an ATOMIC clock at your local Walmart for around $20. That way you also get a nice display and it includes the same basic receiver inside. BillWB6BNQ Heathkid wrote: Has anyone here bought one

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB NIST Radio Time Receiver

2010-10-20 Thread WB6BNQ
inside and connect to the receiver for your own purposes. BillWB6BNQ mike cook wrote: horses for courses. All the commercial atomic clocks clocks I have seen only do time corrections every hour to save on the battery consumption. With one of these receivers ( there is even a link

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency divider design critique request

2008-07-10 Thread WB6BNQ
and stick out a panel. Dave ? Dave ? Why are you unplugging my internet feee BillWB6BNQ David C. Partridge wrote: As I've mentioned before, I've been working on the design of a frequency divider to go with my TB. The idea is 10MHz sine in from TB, output 2.5Vp-p 50% duty

Re: [time-nuts] Double ovened 10811-60158 on ebay

2008-07-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Did it occur to anyone that possibly these units where intended to be used in some very cold country, like the top of Alaska or some similar place wheere a little additional help was necessary ? ? ? Just a thought . . . BillWB6BNQ Ed Palmer wrote: Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:35:38 -0700

Re: [time-nuts] HP58504A antenna

2008-07-21 Thread WB6BNQ
guess would be that the antenna might be working correctly. So I would not be shorting anything out without getting a lot more information first. Is there anyone else in your area that has such a system that you could compare with ? Good luck, 73BillWB6BNQ Jose Manuel wrote: Hello

Re: [time-nuts] HP58504A antenna

2008-07-21 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Bruce, I looked at that also. Using OPERA browser I can zoom in really well and at 400 % you can just make out the trace under the coating and other stuff obscuring the view. BillWB6BNQ Bruce Griffiths wrote: Jose Manuel wrote: Hello all, I´d like to repair a HP58504A antenna

[time-nuts] 32.768KHz from a DDS

2008-07-23 Thread WB6BNQ
on the Analog Devices program after setting the filter factors. I certainly am no expert but the Elliptical filter, which I have some small familiarity with, seemed to be the best choice for the frequency range. BillWB6BNQ References 1. http://designtools.analog.com/dtDDSWeb/dtDDSMain.aspx

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-07-23 Thread WB6BNQ
WB6BNQ Mike S wrote: At 05:42 PM 7/23/2008, Bruce Griffiths wrote... Another approach is to divide the 10MHz by 5^7 (78125) and then use an injection locked multiplier chain to generate 32768 Hz from the resultant 128Hz output. It may even be possible to do

Re: [time-nuts] Designing and building an OCXO and GPSDO

2008-08-10 Thread WB6BNQ
easily handle that level. With care, a crystal oscillator in a well designed circuit can reach parts in 10^-8 with a bit-bang oven control. HP did that in the late 1950's. From that point the difficulty is logarithmic. BillWB6BNQ Philip Pemberton wrote: Hi folks

Re: [time-nuts] Restoring GR 1120-AB Frequency Standard - Need assist...

2008-08-19 Thread WB6BNQ
. As for #1 or #2 questions, I would think of those as a last ditch effort. BillWB6BNQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the last stage of restoring a 1964 General Radio Frequency Standard Model 1120-AB. I'm having trouble getting the inner oven to work propoerly

[time-nuts] Laser Temperature System

2008-08-22 Thread WB6BNQ
possible. BillWB6BNQ Mike Monett wrote: Bruce Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Max A capacitance bridge using a transformer would be a lot more stable than merely using the capacitance to vary the frequency of an LC oscillator

Re: [time-nuts] Re Phil's Fluke Monotronics equipment

2008-08-28 Thread WB6BNQ
not found a manual or even a reference to it anywhere on the WEB or at surplkus places offering books. BillWB6BNQ Dave M wrote: Phil, I'm a new subscriber to this forum. I saw that you have a manual for the Montronics 103A comparator. I have one of these and could use a manual

[time-nuts] Chinese Time Station

2008-08-29 Thread WB6BNQ
. Of course I have Googled and sure enough BPM is the Chinese time station. Haven’t chased after QSL cards in a long time. This is one I sure am going to request and see what happens. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese Time Station

2008-08-29 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Bill, You're right there are two US stations on the HF band, WWV and WWVH. I was generically referring to them both. Although in my mind I did not really think of WWVH per se. In either case neither WWV or WWVH were not there in any recognizable strength. BillWB6BNQ Bill Hawkins wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Help with HP 8640B generator

2008-09-05 Thread WB6BNQ
of these cubicles for access. BillWB6BNQ Lux, James P wrote: In a message dated 05/09/2008 05:23:56 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trivia: The engineer who designed that chip for HP 35 years ago has the cubicle next to me at Agilent Labs! It was considered very

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Neville, You said . . . I mounted a12V 1 watt 40mm brushless DC ball bearing fan, . . Damn, is that thing turbo charged ? BillWB6BNQ Neville Michie wrote: Hi, I have just commissioned a temperature control for my LPRO rubidium oscillator. When I read the specs I noticed

Re: [time-nuts] Temp control of LPRO

2008-09-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Neville, In all seriousness, I thought the Rubidium physics package is heated for reasons. Now that you are heat sinking it, what has happened to the current draw for the whole unit ? Or am I misunderstanding something ? BillWB6BNQ Neville Michie wrote: Hi, I have just commissioned

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor (Didier Juges)

2008-09-13 Thread WB6BNQ
diatribe. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor CLARIFICATION

2008-09-13 Thread WB6BNQ
To clarify item 3 Item 3 came across unclear after reading it again. What was meant was a third channel to compare either of the two mentioned House Standards to a third device without interrupting the two primary control channels referred to in item 1. BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Monitor (Didier Juges)

2008-09-14 Thread WB6BNQ
to see that it should be a group effort. Otherwise you have 3 or 4 people duplicating the wheel so to speak. If those 3 or 4 could channel their efforts into one project perhaps we would end up with the best out of all 3 or 4. regards, BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] AC Connector On HP 5061B

2008-10-03 Thread WB6BNQ
. The only two places that I can think of, off hand, would be televison and RADAR (systems with multiple terminals). BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: [time-nuts] Testing frequency using NTP Bruce GPS ps

2008-10-03 Thread WB6BNQ
of the FMS you mentioned, the only difference is the devices being compared are not being moved. The same methodology still applies however. BillWB6BNQ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer Labs D-5 oscillator

2008-10-10 Thread WB6BNQ
Paul, Send me a photo as well please. I have a Sulzer 1150 5MHz oscillator and am curious if it looks the same. BillWB6BNQ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Kimberley wrote: Paul can you send me a photo of your oscillator? Cheers Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer Labs D-5 oscillator

2008-10-11 Thread WB6BNQ
it is a formal letter or an informal note. An Email is a letter ! All the do - dad shorts for smiling and such (none of which I have learned) allow people to forget how to describe, more accurately with words, their ideas and feelings. BillWB6BNQ

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-23 Thread WB6BNQ
question ? BillWB6BNQ Bob Q wrote: Do rubidium standards use an OCXO? Bob Q. - Original Message - From: Rick Karlquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Question on crystal jumps

2008-10-23 Thread WB6BNQ
of the oscillator. Of course, if you are a purist then nothing but the best is good enough. BillWB6BNQ Bob Q wrote: So why would they not show the same kind of jumps as plain OCXO's? Rick K. mentioned atomic standards avoid jumps. Bob Q. - Original Message - From: WB6BNQ [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Rb lamp lifetime...

2008-11-01 Thread WB6BNQ
Yuri, Sorry about that, but I guess the Trimble Thunderbolts are out of stock all ready. BillWB6BNQ WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Yuri, Unless you need the longer term stability of an undisciplined Rb source, I think you would be better served to get one of the “Timenuts group” Trimble

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