Re:[tips] SAT and High School grade study

2014-02-19 Thread Mike Wiliams
Given the level of education debt in the country, it's obvious that colleges and Universities are making far more money than test companies. Has anyone ever calculated how much information is lost by converting a perfectly good test average into a letter? Did I say letter? We actually conve

Re:[tips] Professors We Need You!

2014-02-19 Thread Richard Hake
Some subscribers to TIPS might be interested in a discussion-list "Re: Professors We Need You!" [Hake (2014)]. The abstract reads: ** The LrnAsst List's Norman Stahl at and Nick Voge at have called a

RE: [tips] SAT and High School grade study

2014-02-19 Thread Jim Clark
Hi In addition to problem with grades as predictor, important to remember that grades and graduation serve as the dependent variable in most of these studies. There are many problems at this end as well, given wide variability in difficulty of different courses and programs, for example. Is it

Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study

2014-02-19 Thread drnanjo
Assessment companies and the test prep companies that live symbiotically off of them make a great deal of money. The test score is held up and apart from the grades as being somehow more fair. So I think they invite the scrutiny. I think any individual grade from the student's middle school or

Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study

2014-02-19 Thread John Kulig
Oops .. max = square root (cross products of the _reliabilities_ of the two variables) .,. just wasted by daily quota with a typo! == John W. Kulig, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology Coordinator, Psychology Honors Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264 ===

Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study

2014-02-19 Thread John Kulig
Well, grades are not perfect measurement devices, but what is in psychology? Interestingly, less than perfect reliability of any otwo variables limits the extent the two variables can correlate. Measurement texts give the upper limit, or maximum, of validity coefficients (as, say, SAT predictin

[tips] Random Thought: I.C.D.B.T.

2014-02-19 Thread Louis Eugene Schmier
I was developing a special decal that was a play on one of my "Schmier's Word For The Day" that I still have hanging over my computer. It never came to pass, for I came up with the idea during what unexpectedly proved to be my last semester in the classroom. I had planned to give it to

Re: [tips] SAT and High School grade study

2014-02-19 Thread Christopher Green
Grades aren't designed to predict how well one will do at the next level. They are designed to summarize (impossibly) in a single character (or two) how one performed at the last level. The determinants of high school and college performance are not exactly the same, so, not surprisingly, high s