[TLS] ESNI/ECHO updates

2020-02-14 Thread Rob Sayre
Hi, Are there any updates to ESNI/ECHO to share as a draft or an update? It's been a few months, so just wondering (even if there's not much to say). thanks, Rob ___ TLS mailing list TLS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls

Re: [TLS] New direction for TLS?

2020-02-14 Thread Yoav Nir
> On 14 Feb 2020, at 22:03, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:46:56AM -0500, Michael D'Errico wrote: >> Hi, >> >> It's been a long time since I posted to this list but saw that the charter >> is being updated and wanted to share an idea I had a while ago but

Re: [TLS] New direction for TLS?

2020-02-14 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Hi Mike, On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:46:56AM -0500, Michael D'Errico wrote: > Hi, > > It's been a long time since I posted to this list but saw that the charter is > being updated and wanted to share an idea I had a while ago but have not > found the time to work on. The TL;DR is to deprecate

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-subcerts-06.txt

2020-02-14 Thread Carrick Bartle
Great! I'll push it on over and continue reviewing. > On Feb 14, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Nick Sullivan > wrote: > > Carrick, > > Thank you for reading the document and identifying an embarrassingly > difficult to parse motivating paragraph (with an annoying unclosed > parenthesis to boot).

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-subcerts-06.txt

2020-02-14 Thread Nick Sullivan
Carrick, Thank you for reading the document and identifying an embarrassingly difficult to parse motivating paragraph (with an annoying unclosed parenthesis to boot). You've correctly identified the meaning it was trying to convey and we'll happily review this as a PR here:

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-subcerts-06.txt

2020-02-14 Thread Nick Sullivan
Ilari, Thank you for identifying these errors in the document. There was no intention to allow the client to constrict the server certificate's algorithm with the delegated_credential extension, and no intention to restrict the delegated credential's algorithm with the signature_algorithms. Let

Re: [TLS] Call for Adoption: draft-stebila-tls-hybrid-design

2020-02-14 Thread Panos Kampanakis (pkampana)
I support adoption From: TLS On Behalf Of Joseph Salowey Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:13 PM To: Subject: [TLS] Call for Adoption: draft-stebila-tls-hybrid-design The authors of "Hybrid Key Exchange" have asked for adoption of their draft as a WG item. Please state whether you

Re: [TLS] Call for Adoption: draft-stebila-tls-hybrid-design

2020-02-14 Thread Jonathan Hammell
I would like to see this work adopted by the working group. I think the language issues can be addressed after adoption. However, given the disagreements raised, I would also be okay if the adoption decision was postponed until after discussion in Vancouver. Jonathan On Thu., Feb. 13, 2020,

[TLS] New direction for TLS?

2020-02-14 Thread Michael D'Errico
Hi, It's been a long time since I posted to this list but saw that the charter is being updated and wanted to share an idea I had a while ago but have not found the time to work on. The TL;DR is to deprecate TLS and rebuild security on top of DTLS. With DTLS, you have encrypted packets, so

Re: [TLS] ESNI Android Implementation

2020-02-14 Thread Stephen Farrell
Sorry, I had meant to reply to this but forgot... On 13/02/2020 21:34, Nick Sullivan wrote: > Hi Justice, > > Thanks for reaching out and welcome. At this point, another implementation > of draft-02 wouldn't hurt, but it also likely won't contribute much to the > development process for this