From: Mohit Sethi M
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:03 AM
To: Jim Schaad ; Mohit Sethi M
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Cc: tls@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [TLS] Review of draft-ietf-tls-external-psk-guidance-00
Hi Jim,
On 7/6/20 7:06 PM, Jim Schaad wrote
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> Hi Jim,
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> Th
Yes I did mean to send this to tls not cfrg - I had just sent mail there and
did not look hard.
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> From: Christopher Wood
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> To: Jim Schaad
> Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Review of draft-ietf-tls-external-psk-guidance-
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> From: Nico Williams
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> To: Salz, Rich
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> Subject: Re: [TLS] something something
Ah - Post-Handshake Authentication?
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I believe that this is a worth while effort. I will be willing to review
and might contribute text
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From: TLS On Behalf Of Sean Turner
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 9:36 PM
To: TLS List
Subject: [TLS] Adoption call for draft-rescorla-tls-ctls
At IETF 105, ekr pre
I have not looked at this draft yet, but what about DTLS/UDP?
Jim
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> From: TLS On Behalf Of Tommy Pauly
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> The QUIC
Coming out of the EDHOC discussions, I was thinking about doing this as
well. I will definitely read it before Prague.
Jim
From: TLS On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofenig
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 1:59 AM
To: tls@ietf.org
Subject: [TLS] CWTs in TLS
Hi all,
I submitted a short docu
After thinking about this for a while, I would expect that sending an
external PSK w/ a ticket should be rare for those systems that are going to
want to do privacy protection. Sending the external PSK would allow for
association of sessions that should not happen with just the ticket.
Jim
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> From: TLS On Behalf Of Viktor Dukhovni
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> Subject: Re: [TLS] TLS 1.3 multiple session tickets from the client?
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> > On May 10, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> >
> >> Do you prepend some new "mag
As a secondary issue related to this. My client is currently implementing the
handshake protocol a little too faithfully to the 1.2 DTLS specification.
Since the client side reliability loop does not have any discussion on deciding
that the server has gone dark or is just never going to respon
though.
Jim
From: Eric Rescorla
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 6:24 AM
To: Jim Schaad
Cc:
Subject: Re: [TLS] Problem with DTLS 1.2 handshake
First, just for clarification, you mean the TLS record MAC on the Finished
rather than the TLS Finished MAC, right?
Assuming that is
I appear to have run across an implementation that does not appear to
violate the specification, but which in my opinion is just plain wrong.
I am doing a handshake with PSK. On the second flight from the client it
sends
[ChangeCipherSpec]
Finished
The server sees that the ChangeCipherSpec occ
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> From: ilariliusva...@welho.com [mailto:ilariliusva...@welho.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:51 AM
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> Subject: Re: [TLS] Mail
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error if a the
value of the extension is exceeded for the version of TLS requested.
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> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 2:15 AM
> To: Jim Schaad ;
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How much of a problem with people are we going to get into if the IoT profiles
for the IETF go and say "You MUST use this algorithm which the IETF does not
recommend?"
I think that this is very likely to get some strong push back from people I
that is the case. Reluctantly I think that we need
From: Eric Rescorla [mailto:e...@rtfm.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:40 AM
To: Jim Schaad
Cc: Russ Housley ; IETF TLS
Subject: Re: [TLS] Using both External PSK and (EC)DH in TLS 1.3
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Jim Schaad mailto:i...@augustcellars.com> > wrote
EKR – I think that is the wrong answer because of the resume case.
However, I would expect that the external PSK would be appended or otherwise
munge into the computed secret (assuming DH) and would be consumed as part of
that processing. No additional slot needed.
jim
From: TLS [mai
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> From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henrick Hellström
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 5:46 PM
> To: Jim Schaad ; 'David Benjamin'
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> Subject: Re: [TLS] BoringSSL's TLS test suite
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> On 201
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> From: Henrick Hellström [mailto:henr...@streamsec.se]
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 4:42 PM
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> On 2016-09-26 01:29, Ji
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> On 2016-09-25 23:55, David Benjamin wrote
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> On 2016-09-25 23:23, David Benjamin wrote:
> > Do you mean in R
This may be a more relevant list to try and get reviewers on. Please think
about doing a review.
Jim
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> From: Cfrg [mailto:cfrg-boun...@irtf.org] On Behalf Of Nevil Brownlee
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 4:06 PM
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> From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Keith Winstein
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> To: David Benjamin
> Cc: tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] KeyUpdate and unbounded write obligations
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> It sounds like there are four properties in pl
What about the choice of, randomly use any of the tickets but don’t re-use a
ticket? I am not sure why using them in a specific order is better or worse.
Even if you assign a specific ticket to a reconnect, I would expect that timing
of issues might make the server see the tickets out of order
From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rescorla
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:10 AM
To: Jim Schaad
Cc: tls@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [TLS] NewSessionTicketFormat - for PSK
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jim Schaad mailto:i...@augustcellars.com> > wrote:
I was looking at how TLS 1.3 was going to fit into an upgrade from the
existing 1.2 version that is used for RADIUS and having vague memories of
what was going on during the F2F meeting and I ended up with the following
question.
We are planning to indicate in the NewSessionTicket items such as if
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> From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bryan A Ford
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2015 1:22 AM
> To: tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Analysis of encrypting the headers - what is the length
>
> On 12/4/15 9:56 PM, Jim Schaad wr
I will start by re-iterating my initial position that I would prefer that
the DTLS and TLS analysis is going to be the same in terms of masking the
header information. So I decided to do some thought experiments about what
happens if the length were to be encrypted and how many different situation
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> From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Appelbaum
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:36 PM
> To: tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Encrypting record headers: practical for TLS 1.3 after
all?
>
> On 12/1/15, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> > On Mon, No
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> From: TLS [mailto:tls-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Salz, Rich
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 7:24 AM
> To: Florian Weimer ; Henrik Grubbström
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> Cc: tls@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [TLS] Should we require implementations to send alerts?
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>
> > With full-du
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