Re: [toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
Bill Shupp wrote: Michael D Schleif wrote: We did NOT change spamassassin. Other than --enable-spam-hits=6 -- which nullifies --enable-spam-passthru=y , doesn't it? -- I do NOT find any clues in your config. What else ought I to investigate? I'm seeing the same problem. I have not had time yet to track it down, but will report back when I do. Ok, I simply had not configured it with spam-hits when I upgraded (look for unimplemented flag spam_hits = ... when debugging). I now have simscan 1.3.1shupp2 compiled thusly: ./configure --enable-user=clamav \ --enable-spam-hits=10 \ --enable-clamav=y \ --enable-spam=y \ --enable-spam-passthru=y \ --enable-per-domain=y \ --enable-ripmime \ --enable-attach=y \ --enable-custom-smtp-reject=y \ --enable-received=y Debug now shows this: simscan:[15929]:SPAM REJECT (38.10/10.00):... Which means 10 is overriding 5 in local.cf. And a spam_hits=3 override is working as expected: simscan:[16535]:SPAM REJECT (23.70/3.00): ... Regards, Bill Shupp
Re: [toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
Roman = * Roman Bělonohý [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007:06:20:21:10:58+0200] scribed: Do you have option which tells to include header about spam score to every message enabled? Which option would that be? Where would it be? I did the following exactly as specified at shupp.org: ./configure --enable-user=clamav \ --enable-clamav=y \ --enable-spam=y \ --enable-spam-passthru=y \ --enable-per-domain=y \ --enable-ripmime \ --enable-attach=y \ --enable-received=y Roman Michael D Schleif napsal(a): Last week, we upgraded the toaster, including simscan. Now, spam_hits=10.1 on a domain basis is NOT passing spamassassin tagged messages between 3.5 and 10 -- which several customers want, and WAS previously working. Example: platinumaire.net:clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=10.1,attach=.vbs:.lnk:.scr:.wsh:.hta:.pif What am I missing? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
My config: ./configure --enable-user=clamav --enable-clamav=y --enable-spam=y --enable-spam-passthru=y --enable-per-domain=y --enable-ripmime --enable-attach=y --enable-received=y --enable-custom-smtp-reject=y --enable-spam-hits=6 --enable-quarantinedir=/var/qmail/quarantine Maybe you should have report_safe 1 in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf ? Roman Michael D Schleif napsal(a): Roman = * Roman Bělonohý [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007:06:20:21:10:58+0200] scribed: Do you have option which tells to include header about spam score to every message enabled? Which option would that be? Where would it be? I did the following exactly as specified at shupp.org: ./configure --enable-user=clamav \ --enable-clamav=y \ --enable-spam=y \ --enable-spam-passthru=y \ --enable-per-domain=y \ --enable-ripmime \ --enable-attach=y \ --enable-received=y Roman Michael D Schleif napsal(a): Last week, we upgraded the toaster, including simscan. Now, spam_hits=10.1 on a domain basis is NOT passing spamassassin tagged messages between 3.5 and 10 -- which several customers want, and WAS previously working. Example: platinumaire.net:clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=10.1,attach=.vbs:.lnk:.scr:.wsh:.hta:.pif What am I missing?
Re: [toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
We did NOT change spamassassin. Other than --enable-spam-hits=6 -- which nullifies --enable-spam-passthru=y , doesn't it? -- I do NOT find any clues in your config. What else ought I to investigate? * Roman Bělonohý [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007:06:21:15:37:27+0200] scribed: My config: ./configure --enable-user=clamav --enable-clamav=y --enable-spam=y --enable-spam-passthru=y --enable-per-domain=y --enable-ripmime --enable-attach=y --enable-received=y --enable-custom-smtp-reject=y --enable-spam-hits=6 --enable-quarantinedir=/var/qmail/quarantine Maybe you should have report_safe 1 in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf ? Roman Michael D Schleif napsal(a): Roman = * Roman Bělonohý [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007:06:20:21:10:58+0200] scribed: Do you have option which tells to include header about spam score to every message enabled? Which option would that be? Where would it be? I did the following exactly as specified at shupp.org: ./configure --enable-user=clamav \ --enable-clamav=y \ --enable-spam=y \ --enable-spam-passthru=y \ --enable-per-domain=y \ --enable-ripmime \ --enable-attach=y \ --enable-received=y Michael D Schleif napsal(a): Last week, we upgraded the toaster, including simscan. Now, spam_hits=10.1 on a domain basis is NOT passing spamassassin tagged messages between 3.5 and 10 -- which several customers want, and WAS previously working. Example: platinumaire.net:clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=10.1,attach=.vbs:.lnk:.scr:.wsh:.hta:.pif What am I missing? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
Michael D Schleif wrote: We did NOT change spamassassin. Other than --enable-spam-hits=6 -- which nullifies --enable-spam-passthru=y , doesn't it? -- I do NOT find any clues in your config. What else ought I to investigate? I'm seeing the same problem. I have not had time yet to track it down, but will report back when I do. Regards, Bill
[toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
Last week, we upgraded the toaster, including simscan. Now, spam_hits=10.1 on a domain basis is NOT passing spamassassin tagged messages between 3.5 and 10 -- which several customers want, and WAS previously working. Example: platinumaire.net:clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=10.1,attach=.vbs:.lnk:.scr:.wsh:.hta:.pif What am I missing? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [toaster] simscan-1.3.1.shupp2: spam_hits NOT working ???
Do you have option which tells to include header about spam score to every message enabled? Roman Michael D Schleif napsal(a): Last week, we upgraded the toaster, including simscan. Now, spam_hits=10.1 on a domain basis is NOT passing spamassassin tagged messages between 3.5 and 10 -- which several customers want, and WAS previously working. Example: platinumaire.net:clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=10.1,attach=.vbs:.lnk:.scr:.wsh:.hta:.pif What am I missing?
Re: [toaster] Simscan 1.3.1.shupp2
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:58 +0800, Shane Chrisp wrote: Well I can confirm that raising the score to 10 as below fixed the issue. It would appear that if SA marks the message as spam, then simscan would bounce it regardless of the score in the simcontrol file. Im using a score of 10 as none of the domains are using a score higher than this, but you would probably be able to set the required_hits to 100 if you wanted to. Spamd: 2007-05-07 21:08:06.336703500 [678] info: spamd: clean message (8.6/10.0) for clamav:89 in 6.9 seconds, 18645 bytes. simscan: 2007-05-07 21:08:06.448404500 simscan:[2406]:SPAM REJECT (8.60/5.50):9.3654s:Any idea:... Shane On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:25 +0800, Shane Chrisp wrote: In reply to my own message, I thought about the fact that I updated spamassassin to version 3.2.0 the other day so I added required_hits 10.0 to spamassassin's local.cf and now the spamd logs are showing that the tests are being compared against the score of 10. Im yet to see a message which is above one of the client domains scores and below the 10.0 threshold so im not sure if it fixes the issue yet. I will let you know when it happens. Shane Bill, (and others) Ive compiled the 1.3.1.shupp2 from your site and im noticind that the spamd logs show all messages testing against a score of 5.0 regardless of what the score is assigned to the domain or user in the simcontrol file. eg: 2007-05-07 13:01:29.778242500 [1621] info: spamd: identified spam (5.7/5.0) for clamav:89 in 7.5 seconds, 15920 bytes. and the message was rejected, yet the domain in question has a score of 6.8 in the simcontrol file. Has anyone else seen this and do you know of a fix for it at all? cheers Shane
Re: [toaster] Simscan 1.3.1.shupp2
Shane Chrisp wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:58 +0800, Shane Chrisp wrote: Well I can confirm that raising the score to 10 as below fixed the issue. It would appear that if SA marks the message as spam, then simscan would bounce it regardless of the score in the simcontrol file. Im using a score of 10 as none of the domains are using a score higher than this, but you would probably be able to set the required_hits to 100 if you wanted to. Spamd: 2007-05-07 21:08:06.336703500 [678] info: spamd: clean message (8.6/10.0) for clamav:89 in 6.9 seconds, 18645 bytes. simscan: 2007-05-07 21:08:06.448404500 simscan:[2406]:SPAM REJECT (8.60/5.50):9.3654s:Any idea:... Shane I thought spam_hits was to be used with spam_passthru. So you would not rely on rejecting spam via spam_assassin's threshold, but only spam_hits in simcontrol. So that the point of spam_hits is so you can allow spam in under a certain threshold, say for going through an optional spam folder, rather than SMTP rejection. This is the only way that I've used spam_hits in the past rather than just turning off passthru. Regards, Bill
Re: [toaster] Simscan 1.3.1.shupp2
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 11:51 -0700, Bill Shupp wrote: Shane Chrisp wrote: On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:58 +0800, Shane Chrisp wrote: Well I can confirm that raising the score to 10 as below fixed the issue. It would appear that if SA marks the message as spam, then simscan would bounce it regardless of the score in the simcontrol file. Im using a score of 10 as none of the domains are using a score higher than this, but you would probably be able to set the required_hits to 100 if you wanted to. Spamd: 2007-05-07 21:08:06.336703500 [678] info: spamd: clean message (8.6/10.0) for clamav:89 in 6.9 seconds, 18645 bytes. simscan: 2007-05-07 21:08:06.448404500 simscan:[2406]:SPAM REJECT (8.60/5.50):9.3654s:Any idea:... Shane I thought spam_hits was to be used with spam_passthru. So you would not rely on rejecting spam via spam_assassin's threshold, but only spam_hits in simcontrol. So that the point of spam_hits is so you can allow spam in under a certain threshold, say for going through an optional spam folder, rather than SMTP rejection. This is the only way that I've used spam_hits in the past rather than just turning off passthru. Regards, Bill I tried using spam_passthru but had too many issues with maildrop that in the end I just stuck with this setup and it worked well until this I recompiled. My compile options for simscan are ./configure --enable-user=clamav --enable-clamav=y --enable-spam=y --enable-spam-hits=10 --enable-per-domain=y --enable-custom-smtp-reject=y --enable-attach=y --enable-ripmime --enable-received=y --enable-spam-auth-user=y --enable-spamassassin-path=/usr/local/bin/spamassassin --enable-spamc=/usr/local/bin/spamc According to the wiki if you want to use the options --enable-spam and --enable-spam-hits=number you should not use --enable-spam-passthru. Although reading the wiki it would appear that this is not happening as the description says: quote: Perhaps the most popular method is a mix of the others. Which is to reject email that scores very high and to pass through other email to the user even if it is marked as spam. This seems to help with the false positive issue; email marked as spam but not really spam. Use these options: --enable-spam --enable-spam-hits=number where number is the spamassassin score at which you want to reject the email Anyway this is working well for me now, so no need to change anything. I can live with simply telling SA that spam has an incredibly high score and letting simscan work it out from there. cheers Shane
[toaster] Simscan 1.3.1.shupp2
Bill, (and others) Ive compiled the 1.3.1.shupp2 from your site and im noticind that the spamd logs show all messages testing against a score of 5.0 regardless of what the score is assigned to the domain or user in the simcontrol file. eg: 2007-05-07 13:01:29.778242500 [1621] info: spamd: identified spam (5.7/5.0) for clamav:89 in 7.5 seconds, 15920 bytes. and the message was rejected, yet the domain in question has a score of 6.8 in the simcontrol file. Has anyone else seen this and do you know of a fix for it at all? cheers Shane
