Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
It's a piece of cake to design your own by tweaking the templates. Nick Gilbert wrote: It's a shame SquirrelMail is so damn UGLY compared to Horde/Imp. Are there any skins out there which are free?
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
>> Thanks very much for your help but I'm throwing in the towel... > > That's probably for the best at this point. Good luck! I'm very stubborn and I couldn't let this beat me... I've got IMAP authentication working now! :) I did a "yum install pam-devel", then recompiled courier-imap, deleted a few config files, ran make-install again, and now it seems to work :) I think I'm more a less sorted! I now have vpopmail and normal linux users authenticating and I think mailfilter files now work, which is all I need. It's a shame SquirrelMail is so damn UGLY compared to Horde/Imp. Are there any skins out there which are free? Thanks for all your help guys! :) Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Nick Gilbert wrote: Yeah, you did not do what I suggested in my last email. Change the authmodule list to include only the authpwd one. Then restart authdaemon. You're not setup for any of those other modules. But there's no such thing as "authpwd". In /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/authdaemonrc it says: # The available modules you # can use are: authcustom authcram authuserdb authvchkpw authldap (which does not include authpwd). If I add authpwd anyway, I get the following errors: Strange, it is turned off for some reason. Try the PAM modules instead. Bill
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
> Yeah, you did not do what I suggested in my last email. Change the > authmodule list to include only the authpwd one. Then restart > authdaemon. You're not setup for any of those other modules. But there's no such thing as "authpwd". In /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/authdaemonrc it says: # The available modules you # can use are: authcustom authcram authuserdb authvchkpw authldap (which does not include authpwd). If I add authpwd anyway, I get the following errors: May 12 14:31:53 blue authdaemond.ldap: Unknown module 'authpwd' skipped May 12 14:31:53 blue authdaemond.ldap: FAIL, all modules rejected May 12 14:31:53 blue imapd: authdaemon: REJECT May 12 14:31:58 blue imapd: LOGIN FAILED, ip=[:::195.166.37.20] Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Nick Gilbert wrote: Yes, during the toaster install, /usr/lib/courier-imap/authdaemonrc is edited to remove all but authvchkpw. I had already changed that back, but I'm getting some errors in /var/log/maillog: [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# cat maillog May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: stopping authdaemond children May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: restarting authdaemond children May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: modules="authuserdb authpam authpgsql authldap authmysql authcustom", daemons=5 May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Uninstalling authpam May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Uninstalling authcustom May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthuserdb May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthuserdb.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthpam May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installation complete: authpam May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthpgsql May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthpgsql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthldap May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthldap.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthmysql May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthmysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthcustom May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installation complete: authcustom I have a feeling that something's gone horribly wrong :( Yeah, you did not do what I suggested in my last email. Change the authmodule list to include only the authpwd one. Then restart authdaemon. You're not setup for any of those other modules. Regards, Bill
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
> Yes, during the toaster install, /usr/lib/courier-imap/authdaemonrc is > edited to remove all but authvchkpw. I had already changed that back, but I'm getting some errors in /var/log/maillog: [EMAIL PROTECTED] log]# cat maillog May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: stopping authdaemond children May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: restarting authdaemond children May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: modules="authuserdb authpam authpgsql authldap authmysql authcustom", daemons=5 May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Uninstalling authpam May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Uninstalling authcustom May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthuserdb May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthuserdb.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthpam May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installation complete: authpam May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthpgsql May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthpgsql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthldap May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthldap.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthmysql May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: libauthmysql.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installing libauthcustom May 12 09:46:01 blue authdaemond: Installation complete: authcustom I have a feeling that something's gone horribly wrong :( Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Nick Gilbert wrote: Has authentication of local users been disabled in this setup somehow? Yes, during the toaster install, /usr/lib/courier-imap/authdaemonrc is edited to remove all but authvchkpw. I've tried editing /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/authdaemonrc and putting back the default list and then restarting, but that doesn't seem to help. Also, is it normal that when you restart courier-imap, it generates another SSL certificate?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# ./courier-imap restart Stopping Courier-IMAP server: imap imap-ssl pop3 pop3-ssl Starting Courier-IMAP server: imap generating-SSL-certificate... imap-ssl I think when this is working - I'll be pretty much there :) The one you probably need in authmodulelist is "authpwd" if you are using /etc/passwd accounts now. Regards, Bill
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
I wrote: Is there a way I can bypass the vpopmail system for a single domain and control it using normal .qmail files and mailfilter? I found some new enthusiasm to persevere with a qmail toaster and I've got further towards the setup I want but have run into another problem. I've got mail delivery working (bypassing vpopmail) with .qmail files so I can use maildrop/mailfilter. I can send myself a test message and it seems to go into the correct Maildir folder. HOWEVER I can't seem to connect to this "normal user" account (non vpopmail) with IMAP. In Thunderbird it just says "Unable to connect to your IMAP server". SquirrelMail says "Unknown user or password incorrect.". If I telnet in manually from localhost I get this: > a001 login nick < a001 NO Login failed. Has authentication of local users been disabled in this setup somehow? I've tried editing /usr/lib/courier-imap/etc/authdaemonrc and putting back the default list and then restarting, but that doesn't seem to help. Also, is it normal that when you restart courier-imap, it generates another SSL certificate?: [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# ./courier-imap restart Stopping Courier-IMAP server: imap imap-ssl pop3 pop3-ssl Starting Courier-IMAP server: imap generating-SSL-certificate... imap-ssl I think when this is working - I'll be pretty much there :) Thanks, Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Thanks for your replies. Is there a way I can bypass the vpopmail system for a single domain and control it using normal .qmail files and mailfilter? What tells qmail that a particular domain is handled by vpopmail? Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
I agree. I guess I should have worded my previos reply differently: The link I provided gives an option to have almost hands-off approach to qmial-toaster. And I have to say that I do like Bill's toaster setup mainly for the reason that I have to actually works through it and hopefully learn in process. Also it gives me option to customize my install. > Bill's Toaster is hands down the best and easiest to use of all the > Qmail toasters available (and I've > tried them all, the ones worth trying anyway). Bill's version does > require an individual to pay > attention to detail, I know because I haven't and had to post > embarrassing newbie questions on > this list even though I've been "doing" Linux since Redhat 4.0 ;) > > Basic Fedora Core 3 + Shorewall (Shoreline) Firewall + Bill's Toaster = > A stable, secure, robust > e-mail system that I am replacing MS Exchange with in commercial > settings. I'll take stability, > security and robustness (and so will my customers) over bells & whistles > EVERYTIME. > > Thanks again Bill for taking the time to maintain the Toaster! > > Allen Taylor > Indianapolis
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Bill's Toaster is hands down the best and easiest to use of all the Qmail toasters available (and I've tried them all, the ones worth trying anyway). Bill's version does require an individual to pay attention to detail, I know because I haven't and had to post embarrassing newbie questions on this list even though I've been "doing" Linux since Redhat 4.0 ;) Basic Fedora Core 3 + Shorewall (Shoreline) Firewall + Bill's Toaster = A stable, secure, robust e-mail system that I am replacing MS Exchange with in commercial settings. I'll take stability, security and robustness (and so will my customers) over bells & whistles EVERYTIME. Thanks again Bill for taking the time to maintain the Toaster! Allen Taylor Indianapolis Alex wrote: I REALLY wish someone made a Qmail Toaster distribution that has all the common stuff already installed to start with such that almost nobody will need to patch it. That way you would effectively have a 'standard' install that was very well supported and not different because everyone's used a different distribution/patches etc. I'd pay for it. Nick, you don't have to pay for it. And there is a product that is easy to install and use: http://www.qmailtoaster.com/ . I have used it for a couple of years and never had an issue. I have switched to Bill's toaster just because it gives me all the options. I sugest to try the toaster I mentioned above if you want the easy setup and maintenance. It doesn't include the ClamAV but there is a link showing how to add it. Give it a try. Alex
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
> I REALLY wish someone made a Qmail Toaster distribution that has all the > common stuff already installed to start with such that almost nobody > will need to patch it. That way you would effectively have a 'standard' > install that was very well supported and not different because > everyone's used a different distribution/patches etc. I'd pay for it. Nick, you don't have to pay for it. And there is a product that is easy to install and use: http://www.qmailtoaster.com/ . I have used it for a couple of years and never had an issue. I have switched to Bill's toaster just because it gives me all the options. I sugest to try the toaster I mentioned above if you want the easy setup and maintenance. It doesn't include the ClamAV but there is a link showing how to add it. Give it a try. Alex
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Hmm.. this is all getting rather complicated for little me. Thanks very much for all your help but I'm coming to the conclusion that I'll probably have to use a commercial product. Well, do whatever works for you. But it has been my experience that while some of this stuff can be difficult to setup, once you get it working you'll have a far better understanding of how it works, and you'll be much more qualified to maintain it. True. But the question is, will I *ever* understand it without spending more time than I would like to? I've only really just got into Linux and this isn't the most trivial of things to get working even with your excellent setup guide :) Bare in mind that I'm used to using products like MDaemon which installs in about 10 minutes and tend to work reliably for years. I was just trying to save myself the cash as I need a mail server for only a handful of people. As my colleague always says "Linux is only free if your time has no value" That's a pretty loaded statement. I strongly disagree, but will refrain from engaging it on this list. I don't agree either to be honest and I shouldn't have said it - but I do think there's a *little* truth in it. Linux solutions to tend to take a lot more time to get working than the commerical ones (unless you're unlucky with the commercial products) and if your time would be better spent doing something else, then going with a 'free' solution doesn't always end up being 'free'. Getting filtering working with the patches I described is trivial. And you can bypass them if are ok with manually configuring .qmail files for any user that wants filtering. I only use the patches because I want to use qmailadmin with the spam detection scheme. Bare in mind that before last week - I've never patched or installed anything in my life :) Maybe as I'll only have about 5 users, the vpopmail part of the install is more hassle than it's worth and I might have an easier time if I create 'normal' linux users and configure things with .qmail files like I used to on my old box (which someone else set up for me). Will that approach still work on a ShuppToaster(tm) or does the vpopmail stuff mangle the configuration too much? I only really *need* the smtp-auth, SpamAssassin, Simscan/clamav and webmail support because I'm not really going to be dealing with more than a few users. I *want* a linux install to work, but it scares me how much patching needs to be done to get VERY basic features into qmail that you'd think a lot of people would need (eg smtp-auth). I REALLY wish someone made a Qmail Toaster distribution that has all the common stuff already installed to start with such that almost nobody will need to patch it. That way you would effectively have a 'standard' install that was very well supported and not different because everyone's used a different distribution/patches etc. I'd pay for it. maildrop is pretty powerful, and well documented. My recommendation is to hold out on a commercial product, and read more docs. I'll take your advice and I'll persevere a little longer with qmail, but it might have to wait until the weekend as looking at the screen all day is doing my head in :) Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Bill Shupp wrote: Woops.. that should read "... because I DON'T want to use qmailadmin's spam detection feature". This is primarily because it defaults to off, which is now what I want. Damn, I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue. The above statement is also wrong... should read "... it defaults to off, which is NOT what I want". Sorry folks... Bill
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Bill Shupp wrote: I only use the patches because I want to use qmailadmin with the spam detection scheme. Woops.. that should read "... because I DON'T want to use qmailadmin's spam detection feature". This is primarily because it defaults to off, which is now what I want. Regards, Bill
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Nick Gilbert wrote: Hmm.. this is all getting rather complicated for little me. Thanks very much for all your help but I'm coming to the conclusion that I'll probably have to use a commercial product. Well, do whatever works for you. But it has been my experience that while some of this stuff can be difficult to setup, once you get it working you'll have a far better understanding of how it works, and you'll be much more qualified to maintain it. As my colleague always says "Linux is only free if your time has no value" That's a pretty loaded statement. I strongly disagree, but will refrain from engaging it on this list. - and I've already spent 3 evenings trying to get the various parts to work properly and now I find it can't even filter mail into folders. Getting filtering working with the patches I described is trivial. And you can bypass them if are ok with manually configuring .qmail files for any user that wants filtering. I only use the patches because I want to use qmailadmin with the spam detection scheme. maildrop is pretty powerful, and well documented. My recommendation is to hold out on a commercial product, and read more docs. Regards, Bill
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Nick Gilbert wrote: > Hmm.. this is all getting rather complicated for little me. Thanks > very much for all your help but I'm coming to the conclusion that I'll > probably have to use a commercial product. As my colleague always says > "Linux is only free if your time has no value" - and I've already > spent 3 evenings trying to get the various parts to work properly and > now I find it can't even filter mail into folders. While I disagree with your statement regarding Linux, I'll keep quiet and not start a holy war.. :) However, I think you'll find that unless you understand exactly what the software is doing, how to configure it, and how to troubleshoot it, you'll never have a decent mail server. There are a lot of products out there with pretty GUI interfaces and buttons to click, but when everything hits the fan and the chips are down, are you sure you can effectively troubleshoot it? I've had our mailservers up and running for over a year now, and except for the occassional update (which is usually nothing more than a single command to install), I've had no problems. But, if there is a problem, I have the knowledge now to troubleshoot it all the way down to the SMTP level. That knowledge is invaluable... Just my opinion. :) > Nick... > -- --- Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold Engine / Technology Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] RedHat Certified - RHCE # 803004140609871 MySQL Pro Certified - ID# 207171862 MySQL Core Certified - ID# 205982910 --- "Something mysterious is formed, born in the silent void. Waiting alone and unmoving, it is at once still and yet in constant motion. It is the source of all programs. I do not know its name, so I will call it the Tao of Programming."
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Is it possible to have per user rules with SpamAssassin in this configuration (ie using vpopmail)? If so, how do I do this? I use the vdelivermail - spamassassin + maildrop patches that I recently posted here on the list for vpopmail. Then, I run spamassassin with preferences in MySQL. Lastly, I add the sasql plugin to squirrelmail so that users can edit their preferences there. Hmm.. this is all getting rather complicated for little me. Thanks very much for all your help but I'm coming to the conclusion that I'll probably have to use a commercial product. As my colleague always says "Linux is only free if your time has no value" - and I've already spent 3 evenings trying to get the various parts to work properly and now I find it can't even filter mail into folders. Nick...
Re: [toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Nick Gilbert wrote: Hi, Is it possible to have per user rules with SpamAssassin in this configuration (ie using vpopmail)? If so, how do I do this? I use the vdelivermail - spamassassin + maildrop patches that I recently posted here on the list for vpopmail. Then, I run spamassassin with preferences in MySQL. Lastly, I add the sasql plugin to squirrelmail so that users can edit their preferences there. Regards, Bill
[toaster] Spamassassin per-user rules
Hi, Is it possible to have per user rules with SpamAssassin in this configuration (ie using vpopmail)? If so, how do I do this? Thanks, Nick...
