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thank you all for your votes!
I want to introduce a bit who I am and what I'm doing when I'm not on the list.
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Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like ant
last year.
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
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Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like ant
last year.
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
I was against it, but given the recent board decisions, I think we
really need more leverage :(
Rémy
Nobody responded to my previous message, but I am still searching for
information on the subject. Any references to docs would be welcome. I
have searched for threads on this list in the archives but had no joy
either.
Thanks
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Henri Gomez wrote:
Hi to all,
Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like ant
last year.
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
I was against it, but given the recent board decisions, I think we
really need more leverage :(
+1
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Can anyone list the pros and cons?
The last time this was discussed it was -1. But it seems the reasons since
then may have changed.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10473776922r=1w=2
-Tim
Henri Gomez wrote:
Hi to all,
Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like ant
last
Hi,
I read the original thread again. Some of Costin's objections are no
longer relevant (e.g. Struts and log4j moving out of Jakarta). Some of
the pro-community arguments (paraphrased as tomcat brings more
visibility to other jakarta projects) I don't think change if tomcat is
its own
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Hi,
I read the original thread again. Some of Costin's objections are no
longer relevant (e.g. Struts and log4j moving out of Jakarta). Some of
the pro-community arguments (paraphrased as tomcat brings more
visibility to other jakarta projects) I don't think change if
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:00:37AM +0100, Henri Gomez wrote:
Well there is now at least 4 persons on this list which track http-dev,
Guenter, Mladen, Jean-Frederic and I.
I also track httpd-dev. :-)
--
Glenn Nielsen
I am curious to the scope the new TLP would have.
For example, would/should the following projects come along to the new Tomcat
TLP?
- Taglibs
- Watchdog
- Slide
- Other web server components based on java?
-Tim
Henri Gomez wrote:
As many I see Tomcat as the ASF Java web-server, where Apache 2
-Original Message-
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Hi to all,
Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like
ant last year.
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
-1
Why would we need that?
If we are not recignised already as a valuable part of ASF,
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From: Henri Gomez
Hi to all,
Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like
ant last year.
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
-1
Why would we need that?
Because we don't have any leverage on the ASF
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
+1... If you want reasons/opinions, I can offer them. :)
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Hi,
Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for HTTP
connector) instead of Tomcat?
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If we are not recignised already as a valuable part of ASF, why all
the fuzz?
Because we don't have the said recognition.
???
I'm thinking to leave the ASF at all...
What was the altruistic community become the playground for the major
companies like
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Hi,
Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for HTTP
connector) instead of Tomcat?
Maybe because their top committers work with coredevelopers.net, and the Jetty
Release Manager is a coredeveloper himself
Yoav Shapira
Sorry,
I forgot to post this link...
http://jetty.mortbay.org/jetty/geronimo/index.html
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Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for HTTP
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Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for HTTP
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History?
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Hi,
Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for
HTTP
connector) instead of Tomcat?
Maybe because their top committers work with coredevelopers.net, and
the
Jetty Release Manager is a coredeveloper himself
Maybe, but the Geronimo front page
jean-frederic clere wrote:
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for HTTP
connector) instead of Tomcat?
History?
No politics reasons.
It's sad to see that ASF didn't use its own servlet engine for a new
project like Geronimo.
And when you see
Mladen Turk wrote:
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If we are not recignised already as a valuable part of ASF, why all
the fuzz?
Because we don't have the said recognition.
???
I'm thinking to leave the ASF at all...
That sounds like releasing Tomcat binaries outside ASF...
What was the
Yoav,
How about some of the tomcat developers show up on the geronimo-dev@ list and start
contributing.
Last time i checked there is no one there who DOES NOT want a tomcat integration. They
are just
waiting for some of the tomcat-dev folks to show up and help :)
-- dims
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Hi,
As an aside, every time I look at the Jetty web site I get annoyed at
something else. Today's annoyance is the number of items on their
powered by Jetty page (http://www.mortbay.com/mortbay/powered.html)
that aren't powered by Jetty:
Hi,
How about some of the tomcat developers show up on the geronimo-dev@
list
and start contributing.
Last time i checked there is no one there who DOES NOT want a tomcat
integration. They are just
waiting for some of the tomcat-dev folks to show up and help :)
I've subscribed to Geronimo-dev
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Mladen Turk wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Henri Gomez
Hi to all,
Just see that Struts is becaming a top level project, like ant last
year.
What's your opinions on moving Tomcat as top level project ?
-1
Why would we need that?
Because we don't have any
Costin Manolache wrote:
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
I read the original thread again. Some of Costin's objections are no
longer relevant (e.g. Struts and log4j moving out of Jakarta). Some of
the pro-community arguments (paraphrased as tomcat brings more
visibility to other jakarta projects) I
--- Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jean-frederic clere wrote:
Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Hi,
Why is Geronimo using Jetty (presumably for servlets and maybe for HTTP
connector) instead of Tomcat?
History?
No politics reasons.
Like JBoss hires our Remy and therefore Geronimo
As TLP we can recomend a chair ( of course, legally the board can
nominate whoever they want - and the chair has almost complete autority
over the project, the PMC has just an advisory role legally - but so far
the common practice was that the board only hints who they don't want
as chair and
Hi,
I was browsing the various Geronimo web sites today, starting with
http://incubator.apache.org/geronimo/. I see mention of Jetty on the
left-hand menu bar, which I assume is used for Servlets, and maybe also
HTTP connection handling. Is my assumption wrong?
If my assumption is right, I'd
Hi,
So +1 for tomcat as TLP, and Remy as PMC chair.
+1 for both.
Now that some more coherent arguments have been put forth, I tend to +0.
Visibility-wise, I don't think Apache-Jakarta-Tomcat and Apache-Tomcat
are very different: our reputation is already established. But if we
can do
truk2004/03/18 09:14:45
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Henri Gomez wrote:
Mladen Turk wrote:
Oops, hit a wrong button so the post ended up the users list :-)
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:36:11 +0100
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To: [EMAIL
From: Shapira, Yoav
Now that some more coherent arguments have been put forth, I
tend to +0.
Visibility-wise, I don't think Apache-Jakarta-Tomcat and
Apache-Tomcat are very different: our reputation is already
established. But if we can do something to give us a louder
voice and
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This is a tough decision. A top level project can give us more leverage, but
it is also way more politics. Politics require mature representation...and
are we sure that Tomcat has this.
Unless becoming a TLP gives us an instant advantage or will change some
things that really do need to change,
Henri Gomez wrote:
For now Tomcat is just one of the various jakarta projects and as such
we could see jakarta PMC take decisions we don't agree with.
Most of us are in Jakarta PMC - and those who are not, only have to ask
and they'll be added.
At least for Jakarta PMC decisions we do have a
Yoav,
'senor srinivas' - That's me :) I was thinking about Jetty/Tomcat and ran across this
article on
O'Reilly (http://www.onjava.com/lpt/a/1547) and hence the question about updating
maven repository
to be able to hack something up using 5.0.18. However i have not been able to
contribute my
Henri Gomez wrote:
Board is elected by Members, and Members by Commiters isn't it ?
Of course not. Members are elected by Members. Usually committers that
make constant contributions to ASF and prove community spirit and so on
( read one of the past postings by Stefano or Pier for the exact list
Hi,
So, again what is the board, why do I need it, are they going to make
me
more productive, did anyone received some dev tool?
There is a PayPal account. Where is the money?
I'm not a Board member, but AFAIK most of the above money questions are
answered at
Just as existing committers VOTE to add new committers, ASF Members do the same.
So my 2 cents, If you wish to effect change, lobby/hint someone you know that you are
interested
(see list at http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html) as there are periodic
VOTE's (there
was one during last
Hola,
The intention is that you should be able to plug any number of
different
web containers into Geronimo. When designing the web integration layer,
we've taken particular care to come up with an architecture that is
container neutral (take a look at the wiki pages over at
Hi,
Here are the HOWTOs I use for binary distributions:
NetWare:
This is a binary package of mod_jk2. If you have
installed Apache2 to the default location /Apache2 then
simply extract this archive directly to the root of
your
From way back when, when I was subscribed to geronimo-dev, the main reason
to use Jetty was that Geronimo had Jetty developers. There wasn't any real
objection that I saw to using Tomcat, just a total lack of people who had
that itch to scratch.
If this is your itch, then by all means start
Just to back up what Jan said... it is our intention to make
the web tier very much a geronimo thing and not a Jetty/Tomcat
issue - at least from a configuration and deployment point of view.
http://wiki.apache.org/geronimo/Architecture/WebContainer
The infrastructure of geronimo has been
Adam,
I thought that this was a spec issue and a quick review of the bugzilla postings
confirms this. The best place to follow this up is with the servlet spec team.
Mark
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Hi folks,
I need to know if someone can explain the following behavior:
1. client browser issues a request
2. tomcat servlet code starts handling the request...
a. writes an html redirect to the resp, flushes the buffer, etc
b. thread continues processing (writing to a data structure)
3.
Hi,
Stop processing after you redirect: anything else is bad design with
unpredictable results. Also, this is not a tomcat-dev question but a
tomcat-user issue, so please continue this discussion there (if you want
to continue it at all).
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics
markt 2004/03/18 13:03:12
Modified:jasper2/src/share/org/apache/jasper/runtime Tag:
tomcat_4_branch JspWriterImpl.java
Log:
- Fix bug 13499. Remove unnecssary bufferSize check
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markt 2004/03/18 13:05:17
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Log:
- Fix bug 13499. Remove unnecssary bufferSize check
- Ported from TC4
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Hi Yoav,
The reason I asked on this list is because I'm looking for more than just
that's a stupid thing to do - I'm hoping someone can either
a) explain the nitty-gritty of how tomcat handles writing the code back to
the browser (and telling the browser that everything is complete) in the
case
Sriram N wrote:
Like JBoss hires our Remy and therefore Geronimo (coredeveloper-based) does not
use Tomcat ?
Lol.
I'm no committer, but I dare say that there's nothing to stop Tomcat Developers
from helping out with Geronimo tomcat integration..
Sorry, I have no time (and think you are wasting
Hi,
Yes, you will definitely get those types of answers on the user list.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics
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Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Maybe, but the Geronimo front page
(http://incubator.apache.org/geronimo/index.html) says
The aim of the project is to produce a large and healthy community of
J2EE developers tasked with the development of an open source, certified
J2EE server, that is ASF licensed and passes
-1. The patch breaks the spec.
According to JSP 2.0 spec, JSP.5.5 (p1-111),
If the page output was unbuffered and anything has been written to
it, an attempt to forward the request will result in an
IllegalStateException.
-Kin-man
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 21:05:17 +
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The original bug report was that Jasper threw an exception on an immediate
pageContext.forward() on an unbuffered page. My reading of the spec is that this
shouldn't happen. I can't see how this check helps meet the part of the spec you
quoted.
Am I being stupid and missing the
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Politics require mature representation...and
are we sure that Tomcat has this.
We have Costin :)
Unless becoming a TLP gives us an instant advantage or will change some
things that really do need to change, is it worth the time and effort. IMHO
becoming a TLP should
The action jsp:forward generates a call to PageContextImpl.forward(),
so the patch affects how this action works. The following test
%@ page buffer=none %
jsp:forward page=test.jsp/
used to raise an ISE, now it does not. The test for buffersize might
not be the best way to implement the part
Remy Maucherat wrote:
Hi,
5.0.20 wasn't tagged for obvious reasons, and I propose postponing the
tag to the end of next week (friday seems a good target).
I'll tag likely on Sunday, as I need to fix a bug before (27752).
I identified the following tasks:
- update the jakarta-servletapi-5 module
luehe 2004/03/18 15:51:48
Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/coyote/tomcat5
CoyoteAdapter.java
Log:
Include session cookies in HttpServletRequest.getCookies().
Excluding them has caused a regression, and seems to be in conflict
with the javadocs:
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Modified:util/java/org/apache/tomcat/util/net/jsse JSSE14Support.java
Log:
If using clientAuth=want, then don't change it to need when requesting the cert
for CLIENT-CERT auth.
About the only thing that this allows is the ability to send back an
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