RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Denise Mangano
Hi all, I followed everyone's suggestions and so far so good. I set up the users like John suggested, and disable the desktop environment like Matt suggested. I disabled this service by changing my run level to 3. I now have to get Tomcat back into the startup... For now I have started it

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Turner, John
-Original Message- From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:32 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Hi all, I followed everyone's suggestions and so far so good. I set up the users like John

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Denise Mangano
: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Good questions, all. :) 1) Apache has a lot of processes, one is the root process used to bind to port 80, the others are children ready to serve HTTP requests. That's normal. The root process on 80 is the one attributed to user root, the children

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Turner, John
Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:07 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root John - Have you ever been, or thought of being a professor? ; ) Actually, I don't think Tomcat was running at boot because after

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Turner, John
Ooops, typing too fast. That should be chown, not chmod. John -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:14 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Good point, you

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Turner, John
question about root Ooops, typing too fast. That should be chown, not chmod. John -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:14 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Denise Mangano
, 2002 1:16 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Perfect example why you shouldn't stay logged in as root, and should only be root when necessary. LOL John -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Matt Harris
Apache normally runs multiple processes to handle multiple simoultaneous user requests. This can be configured in your httpd.conf. Tomcat runs multiple processes, which it calls workers. Since tomcat is in java and not a truly binary-compiled language (like C or C++) it runs under java which is

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Turner, John
' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Point taken LOL :) Well I bought Real World Linux Security by Toxen (Open Source Tech Series) and The RedHat 7.3 Bible, which I am finding isn't that much different than the documentation that came from the software. Barnes

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Matt Harris
!! :) Denise -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:16 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Perfect example why you shouldn't stay logged in as root, and should only be root when

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Denise Mangano
!! :) Denise -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:16 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Perfect example why you shouldn't stay logged in as root, and should only

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Hamilton, Andrew
- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:39 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Good questions, all. :) 1) Apache has a lot of processes, one is the root process used to bind to port 80, the others

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Turner, John
Got it. Thanks! John -Original Message- From: Hamilton, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 1:54 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Just as an aside and not necessarily all that important

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-18 Thread Ben Ricker
On Wed, 2002-12-18 at 12:26, Matt Harris wrote: Apache normally runs multiple processes to handle multiple simoultaneous user requests. This can be configured in your httpd.conf. Tomcat runs multiple processes, which it calls workers. Since tomcat is in java and not a truly binary-compiled

Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Denise Mangano
I know this is a naïve question, and slightly irrelevant to the newsgroup... I keep getting told left and right not to work as root. I heeded this advice a while back and created a user. Here is the thing. My RH 7.3 box, running Apache 1.3.27 Tomcat 3.1.17 (no I haven't gotten them connected

[OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Turner, John
]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:53 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: Naïve question about root I know this is a naïve question, and slightly irrelevant to the newsgroup... I keep getting told left and right not to work as root. I heeded this advice a while back and created

Re: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Ken Anderson
Denise Mangano wrote: I know this is a naïve question, and slightly irrelevant to the newsgroup... I keep getting told left and right not to work as root. I heeded this advice a while back and created a user. Here is the thing. My RH 7.3 box, running Apache 1.3.27 Tomcat 3.1.17 (no I

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Denise Mangano
: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Hi - Not sure what you mean about logged in as root. Apache and Tomcat are services, there is no need for anyone to be logged in to run them. Apache needs to run as root to bind to port 80 (root is required to bind to port numbers 1024, this is by design

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Matt Harris
- or rather trying to ; ) Denise Mangano Help Desk Analyst Complus Data Innovations, Inc. -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:11 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Hi

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Hamilton, Andrew
to many groups. Good Luck. Drew -Original Message- From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:37 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Wow, how do you know all this stuff? :) I will certainly have

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Turner, John
-Original Message- From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:37 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Wow, how do you know all this stuff? :) I will certainly have to pick up a book

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Denise Mangano
- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root -Original Message- From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 3:37 PM

Re: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Alexander Wallace
You should not be as root all the time becouse root can do anything, and any little mistake could be desastrous, like running rm when you actually meant mv, or stuff like that. It is safe (as far as someone sniffing your root password, or any other user's) to use ssh, but don't stay connected

RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root

2002-12-17 Thread Turner, John
. They usually ended up getting burned or fired or both, eventually. John -Original Message- From: Denise Mangano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:18 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: Naïve question about root Alright then. I get