Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-20 Thread Michael Micek
chomp On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:16:25PM -0500, Jake Robb wrote: Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source into your program and distribute that (internal), or you just distribute mySQL along with your software (external). Really? Do they define that somewhere? My

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-20 Thread Turner, John
lawyers. John -Original Message- From: Jake Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:16 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-20 Thread Erik Price
Michael Micek wrote: chomp On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:16:25PM -0500, Jake Robb wrote: Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source into your program and distribute that (internal), or you just distribute mySQL along with your software (external). Really? Do they

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Ralph Einfeldt
) -Original Message- From: Schnitzer, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) PostgreSQL may be a lively project, but the JDBC driver

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Felipe Schnack
=cache:WKaB0FnR2iQC:lab.applinet.nl/postgresql-jdbc/+hl=deie=UTF-8 (Only Archive is currently not online) -Original Message- From: Schnitzer, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:22 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Gustavo Cebrian
Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) I have an oracle administrator. It's no problem. I also have an oracle support contract, if it's beyond the admin I have additional resources. And not to start a flame war, but postgresql isn't quite

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Turner, John
.) but sometimes it's much quicker and less cumbersome to simply choose another solution. John -Original Message- From: Joel Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:28 PM To: Jens Skripczynski Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Varley, Roger
I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned SAPDB ( www.sapdb.org ). If this will support a production SAP R3 system then it shoud be able to give Oracle a run for its money. Regards Roger - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Kemp Randy-W18971
There are some great installation guides for Oracle on Linux and Solaris found at http://www.dbspecialists.com/ -Original Message- From: Felipe Schnack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:47 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Felipe Schnack
: Felipe Schnack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:47 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Oracle is expensive to buy, expensive to hire a DBA... and well, in windows the installation is okay

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Mike Jackson
' Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned SAPDB ( www.sapdb.org ). If this will support a production SAP R3 system then it shoud be able to give Oracle a run for its money. Regards Roger

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Chong Yu Meng
Message- From: Felipe Schnack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:47 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Oracle is expensive to buy, expensive to hire a DBA... and well, in windows the installation is okay

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Erik Price
Turner, John wrote: Without going into a whole argument...technically MySQL is not free for commercial use. If you use MySQL in a commercial setting, internal or external, without purchasing a commercial license, you may do so only if the application that uses MySQL is also GPL

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Turner, John
I guess MySQL AB should remove the phrase internal or external from the statement, then. ;) John -Original Message- From: Erik Price [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:53 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Erik Price
Turner, John wrote: I guess MySQL AB should remove the phrase internal or external from the statement, then. ;) I agree, it is confusing, and doesn't even say what context internal or external refers to. Erik - To

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-19 Thread Jake Robb
Internal and External refer to whether you compile the mySQL source into your program and distribute that (internal), or you just distribute mySQL along with your software (external). The only important part is that you have to *distribute* the mySQL software in order to incur charges. As I said

NNOT Red Herrings (Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise))

2003-02-19 Thread Joel Rees
This thread brought to mind something in Perl's Artistic License. It also reminded me that the arguments against the GPL are all red herrings. Anyway -- Seems pretty straightforward to me: If your application is not licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license approved by MySQL AB and you

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Filip Hanik
mysql does have transactions, just go through the docs Filip -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:20 AM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) hi, I'm looking for a

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread pqin
Postgre sql? Regards, PQ This Guy Thinks He Knows Everything This Guy Thinks He Knows What He Is Doing -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 18, 2003 1:20 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Turner, John
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=postgresql John -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:20 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) hi,

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mark Eggers
Check out Postgresql at www.postgresql.org HTH /mde/ just my two cents . . . . --- Jens Skripczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I'm looking for a Database, that can do - sql transactions, (or anything similiar to sql - if it works with a xml database, xml is fine) - has a java

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Goehring, Chuck Mr., RCI - San Diego
: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:03 AM To: Tomcat Users List; Jens Skripczynski Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) mysql does have transactions, just go through the docs Filip -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Jackson
Hypersonic, best thing is that it's written in java, and can be embedded into your applications. Also, you can setup the tables to be in memory, or on disk... --mikej -=- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Ryan Chambers
For an industrial strength open-source DB, try http://postgresql.org -Original Message- From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:14 AM To: Tomcat Users List; Jens Skripczynski Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Jackson
Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) For an industrial strength open-source DB, try http://postgresql.org -Original Message- From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:14 AM To: Tomcat Users List; Jens

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Kaarle Kaila
At 19:20 18.2.2003 +0100, you wrote: hi, I'm looking for a Database, that can do - sql transactions, (or anything similiar to sql - if it works with a xml database, xml is fine) - has a java 1.4.1 jdbc driver - is free (even better if for commercial use) 'Mysql' was my first option, but it

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Michael
- From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:14 PM To: Tomcat Users List; Jens Skripczynski Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Hypersonic, best thing is that it's written in java, and can be embedded into your applications

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Michael
If I'm going to go to that size I'd rather run Oracle. But if it's something small hypersonic is great. There is no comparison. PostgreSQL is very simple to install and run. Oracle requires an Oracle administrator ($$$) to install. I don't think a database can be much easier to install than

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Ryan Chambers
Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) For an industrial strength open-source DB, try http://postgresql.org -Original Message- From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:14 AM To: Tomcat Users List

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mark Eggers
Since I don't use Postgresql in production, I don't know how well it works (or doesn't) on Win/2K. However, for development work Postgresql on Win/2K works fine. I'm currently running Postgresql on my Win/2K Pro machine. I suspect that since Postgresql has to go through Cygwin to access a

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Jens Skripczynski
Hi, thx for all the replies. I will give Hypersonic a try. (Because native java sounds good, and i do not have the money nor the time to learn oracle (a friend of mine told me an adventure about installing oracle on a windows system 'use that installer, swap cd's, because the default cd won't do

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Tam, Michael
MySQL does support transaction and it has JDBC Driver. If you have read a bit more in depth on MySQL website, you would have found what you are looking for. -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:20 AM Cc: [EMAIL

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Felipe Schnack
Oracle is expensive to buy, expensive to hire a DBA... and well, in windows the installation is okay, but in linux is a real nightmare... I took almost a week the first time (I wasn't a very experienced linux user too) I'm using postgresql with Java and I'm very satisfied, much more serious

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Turner, John
, 2003 2:13 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) MySQL does support transaction and it has JDBC Driver. If you have read a bit more in depth on MySQL website, you would have found what you are looking for. -Original

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Ing. Gustavo Edelstein
If you use MySQL MAX you'll have transactions. Another choice is PostgreSQL Regards, Ing. Gustavo A. Edelstein Tech. Mgr. Equiplus S.A. www.equiplus.com - Original Message - From: Jens Skripczynski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:20 PM Subject:

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Jackson
. --mikej -=- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:35 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) If I'm going to go to that size I'd

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Jeff Tulley
Sorry to add to the noise, but I feel the need to add: On the next version of NetWare (6.5), there will be a commercially-licensed copy of MySQL that an application can use without the restrictions John listed. In case that helps anybody decide for or against using it. Jeff Tulley ([EMAIL

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Jackson
: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:13 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) I have an oracle administrator. It's no problem. I also have an oracle support contract, if it's beyond the admin I

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Oscar Carrillo
, PostgreSQL is great for any project. Michael -Original Message- From: Mike Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:14 PM To: Tomcat Users List; Jens Skripczynski Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Hypersonic

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Jake Robb
is not distributed under the GPL. http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html -Jake - Original Message - From: Jeff Tulley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Sorry to add to the noise

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Turner, John
That's not the way I read it at all. But, that's a topic for another place. John -Original Message- From: Jake Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:52 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Schnitzer, Jeff
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:26 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Also the clob and blob support is closer to the standard jdbc implementation than under postgresql. Admitably I haven't looked lately

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Jens Skripczynski
Hi, I would like to stop this thread, i started. I would like to thank everybody for contributions. Many things i forgot to write. - I'm not the administrator of the final tomcat box, so needing any other database than mysql, needs a lot of talk with the admin. - yes, i did check the mysql

RE: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Mike Jackson
-=- mike jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jens Skripczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:37 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise) Hi, I would like to stop this thread, i started

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Phil Shrimpton
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 18:20, Jens Skripczynski wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a Database, Firebird (www.firebirdsql.org) . Been using it, and its predicessors for about 10 years in major production Excellent Type 4 JDBC driver with built in support for JCA (lead developer is one of the

Re: [OT] free Database with Transaction (Sorry for the noise)

2003-02-18 Thread Joel Rees
Just thinking out loud -- ... - yes, i did check the mysql website, but rely on (maybe outdated) information of computer magazines, that labeled the transaction support very limited. ... almost free (for non-commercial use): - Mysql (http://www.mysql.com/) connectors: - MySQL