Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
I've tried several IDEs in Linux: JBuilder -- free version; learning curve too steep w/out docs. Never sure what was happening. Forte IE -- **Powerful** but slow. Editor so-so. Couldn't sign jars from inside IDE. Petty annoyances, like having to re-add files to JARs when rebuilding removed them. Won't remember JAR contents. Only one project open at a time. Can *only* edit Java related files in you project (Want to check something in that C++ server program you're porting? Sorry, can't open it. Need to see another file? Add it to package first.). CodeWarrior -- Plus: Very like the Metrowerks Mac IDE which I cut my teeth on back when it was Lightspeed C Pascal. Multiple projects open at once. Edits *any* text file in Mac, DOS, or UNIX format. Minus: Like the Mac product! (I'd like a more Linux look feel. Leaves .AppleDouble directories everywhere. SOLUTION: Ant and the NEdit text editor. Full control for whatever I want! At 03:54 4/28/2001 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis -- Thad Humphries If the misery of our poor be caused not Web Development Manager by the laws of nature but by our institu- Phone: 540/675-3015, ext. 225tions, great is our sin. Charles Darwin
RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
If you have the money, nothing beats Visual Slick Edit 6.0 for editing and Ant for building. You can tie Ant into SlickEdit as well as anything else. I wrote a simple PERL script that writes the get and set methods for me and I integrated into SlickEdit in about 1 minute. You can find more info on it at www.slickedit.com . It supports most languages like PERL, Java, Python, PL/SQL, SQL, SH, XML, SGML, HTML, JavaScript, ...I can go on and on. It was written in C so it's instant and uses very little RAM. You can download a demo there. YOu might want to download the windows version demo so that you can save the changes to the file you are editing. In the LInux version, there is no time expiration, you just can't save the files. Give it a try, Christian At 03:54 4/28/2001 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis -- Thad Humphries If the misery of our poor be caused not Web Development Manager by the laws of nature but by our institu- Phone: 540/675-3015, ext. 225tions, great is our sin. Charles Darwin
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
Nothing but www.omnicore.com Codeguide if you Java developer. - Original Message - From: Christian Hargraves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development? If you have the money, nothing beats Visual Slick Edit 6.0 for editing and Ant for building. You can tie Ant into SlickEdit as well as anything else. I wrote a simple PERL script that writes the get and set methods for me and I integrated into SlickEdit in about 1 minute. You can find more info on it at www.slickedit.com . It supports most languages like PERL, Java, Python, PL/SQL, SQL, SH, XML, SGML, HTML, JavaScript, ...I can go on and on. It was written in C so it's instant and uses very little RAM. You can download a demo there. YOu might want to download the windows version demo so that you can save the changes to the file you are editing. In the LInux version, there is no time expiration, you just can't save the files. Give it a try, Christian At 03:54 4/28/2001 -0700, you wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis -- Thad Humphries If the misery of our poor be caused not Web Development Manager by the laws of nature but by our institu- Phone: 540/675-3015, ext. 225tions, great is our sin. Charles Darwin
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
emacs w/ the JDE package. Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi,I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why?ThanksCurtis
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
I agree 100%! Sincerely yours; Mark Mynsted VHA Management Information Systems Client Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (972) 830 - 0592, Internal x1592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/30/2001 9:48:45 AM emacs w/ the JDE package. Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi,I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis
RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
where can i get JDE. I'm all about some emacs. Tim Julien HP Middleware -Original Message-From: Nick Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:49 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?emacs w/ the JDE package. Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi,I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why?ThanksCurtis
RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
jde.sunsite.dk Sincerely yours; Mark Mynsted VHA Management Information Systems Client Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (972) 830 - 0592, Internal x1592 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/30/2001 10:48:34 AM where can i get JDE. I'm all about some emacs. Tim Julien HP Middleware -Original Message- From: Nick Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development? emacs w/ the JDE package. Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi,I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
>From www.freshmeat.net I found: http://jde.sunsite.dk/ "JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2)" wrote: where can i get JDE.I'm all about some emacs.Tim JulienHP Middleware -Original Message- From: Nick Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development? emacs w/ the JDE package. Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi,I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis
RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
As it says on the Emacs page (http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html), The first place to start looking for elisp packages is at the a href=ftp://ftp.emacs.org/pub/;Emacs Lisp archive/a, and in the a href=http://www.lerner.co.il/emacs/faq-body.shtml;Emacs FAQ/a, under the sections Finding/Getting Emacs and Related Packages and Major Emacs Lisp Packages, Emacs Extensions, and Related Programs. The first link seems wonked for me--I found a copy at ftp://ftp.emacs.org/mirrors/ftp.cis.ohio-state.edu/pub/emacs-lisp/incoming/j de-2.2.0.tar.gz/jde-2.2.0.tar.gz The second lists a better site at http://jde.sunsite.dk/ . -- Bill K. -Original Message- From: JULIEN,TIMOTHY (HP-NewJersey,ex2) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development? where can i get JDE. I'm all about some emacs. Tim Julien HP Middleware -Original Message- From: Nick Christopher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development? emacs w/ the JDE package. Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi,I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis
RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
Is this the free version. 'cos the one which is free supported only jdk 1.1.8. I wanted to use visual Age 3.0 which is free for Linux, but since it supports only jdk1.1.8, i don't want to use it. Is version 3.5 free for Linux? Anand -Original Message- From: AC [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 11:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development? I'm using Visual Age 4 java v. 3-5 and it seems to me very good for develobing and debugging... ac At 11.22 29/04/2001 -0700, you wrote: huh? I used Visual Cafe 4.0 for a long time, doing servlet 2.2 stuff...when you say it didn't support the latest servlet api what do you mean? Just put the latest server.jar in the classpath... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote: I like JBUilder, I tried VIsual cafe but it didnt support the latest servlet api - Original Message - From: Curtis Spencer To: Tomcat User List Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: Best IDE for Servlet Development? Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis Content-Type: text/html; name=unnamed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -johnd
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
huh? I used Visual Cafe 4.0 for a long time, doing servlet 2.2 stuff...when you say it didn't support the latest servlet api what do you mean? Just put the latest server.jar in the classpath... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote: I like JBUilder, I tried VIsual cafe but it didnt support the latest servlet api - Original Message - From: Curtis Spencer To: Tomcat User List Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: Best IDE for Servlet Development? Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis Content-Type: text/html; name=unnamed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -johnd
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
I'm using Visual Age 4 java v. 3-5 and it seems to me very good for develobing and debugging... ac At 11.22 29/04/2001 -0700, you wrote: huh? I used Visual Cafe 4.0 for a long time, doing servlet 2.2 stuff...when you say it didn't support the latest servlet api what do you mean? Just put the latest server.jar in the classpath... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote: I like JBUilder, I tried VIsual cafe but it didnt support the latest servlet api - Original Message - From: Curtis Spencer To: Tomcat User List Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: Best IDE for Servlet Development? Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis Content-Type: text/html; name=unnamed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -johnd
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
I tried it brieflly and it didn't have methods such as getSession() so I called there tech support and they said they didnt support 2.2 so I dropped it there. I assume you are right about adding the latest server.jar, I never got that far because I took the tech support guy at his word. Ivan - Original Message - At 11.22 29/04/2001 -0700, you wrote: huh? I used Visual Cafe 4.0 for a long time, doing servlet 2.2 stuff...when you say it didn't support the latest servlet api what do you mean? Just put the latest server.jar in the classpath... On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, you wrote: I like JBUilder, I tried VIsual cafe but it didnt support the latest servlet api - Original Message - From: Curtis Spencer To: Tomcat User List Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: Best IDE for Servlet Development? Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis Content-Type: text/html; name=unnamed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- -johnd
Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
Hi Curtis I think 'best IDE' is like 'best flavor of ice cream' and is a matter of personal taste, but here are a few places to look. I highly recommend visits to Sun's Forte pages and NetBeans.org, if for no other reason than all the great places they lead. AnyJ from Netcomputing http://www.netcomputing.de Free trial Price: $198 USD Platforms: Linux, OS/2, Solaris, Win9x, WinNT 4, Win2K Bolero Component Studio from Software AG http://www.softwareag.com/bolero Price: ? Platforms: WinNT 4 Forte for Java Community Edition, Forte for Java Internet Edition, from Sun Microsystems http://www.sun.com/forte/ffj/index.html Community Edition is free, Internet Edition has free trial Price: $495 USD for Internet Edition Platforms: Everything supported by the competition plus others that support the Java 2 SDK v1.3 This is where I'd suggest anyone interested in Java IDEs look first. Besides information on their own products, Sun provides links and information for competing products. JBuilder, JBuilder Professional, JBuilder Enterprise from Inprise/Borland http://www.borland.com/jbuilder JBuilder Foundation and Enterprise free trial offers Price: $49 - $2,999 USD Platforms: Linux, Solaris, Win98, WinNT 4, Win2k Kawa Professional, Kawa Enterprise from Macromedia/Allaire http://www.allaire.com/products/kawa/index.cfm Free trial Price: $129 - $695 USD (single user) Platforms: Win9x, WinNT 4, Win2k NetBeans from NetBeans.org http://www.netbeans.org/ Open-source IDE Price: Free Platforms: Any that support Java 2 Sun's Forte for Java is based on NetBeans. See the NetBeans FAQs for details. This is a definite must-see in my book. Like with so many open-source projects, this one has tons of free add-ons, tweaks, mods, goodies, tips and fun. VisualAge for Java, VisualAge for Java Enterprise from IBM http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/vajava/ VisualAge for Java Entry Edition free after registering with VisualAge Developers Domain Price: $123 - $2,849 USD Platforms: Linux, Win98, WinNT 4, Win2k Visual Cafe Enterprise Suite from WebGain http://www.visualcafe.com/products/visual_cafe/enterprise_edition/ Price: $4,995 Platforms: Win9x, WinNt 4, Win2k Source Studio from KeyEdit Technologies also claims JSP and servlet support but the product page is currently off-line. http://www.keyedit.com/sstudio/ Java World has a big list of Java IDEs at http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/tools/jw-tools-ide.html Infoworld gave IBM's VisualAge for Java Enterprise Edition higher marks than they gave VisualCafe for Java Enterprise Suite or JBuilder Enterprise Edition. http://www.infoworld.com/testcenter/comparison/991213tcrc.html Earthweb's Gamelan remains a great source of Java information in general. http://softwaredev.earthweb.com/java michael-thomas.com keeps an updated list of Java IDEs at http://www.michael-thomas.com/java/javacert/java_ide.htm If you find any of that helpful, please feel free to encourage ANYONE to respond to my request for some Tomcat Virtual Host setup examples. ;-) __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Best IDE for Servlet Development?
Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis
RE: Best IDE for Servlet Development?
JBuilder 4, ~ Namaste - I bow to the divine in you ~ Filip Hanik Software Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.filip.net -Original Message- From: Mark Diggory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tomcat User List Subject: Re: Best IDE for Servlet Development? Forte IE, all the way, on both Linux and WIndows, I use it for building my support classes and then I use Dreamweaver to write forms and jsp pages on windows and that pretty much allows me to build anything fast. However, I haven't used the integrated tomcat server, I use my own installation and I use its webapps/Context as my mount points. any time I edit a servlet or jsp, tomcat reloads it, if I'm editing a support class I have to restart tomcat. Probably the only downfall to date. But thats not a complaint. -Mark At 03:54 AM 4/28/01 -0700, Curtis Spencer wrote: Hi, I just downloaded the trial version for Forte for Java 2.0 Internet Edition and it seems like a good servlet development kit because of the integrated tomcat server. I was wondering if anyone was using other IDE's for servlet development and if they had any thoughts about what was the best IDE and why? Thanks Curtis
