Topband: NAQCC 160 Sprint Tonight

2019-01-22 Thread Joe Galicic
Get on and have some QRP fun tonight ! http://www.naqcc.info/sprint/sprint201901_160.html _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector

Re: Topband: CQ 160 Contest

2019-01-22 Thread Ralph Bellas
Follow the link to the rules. Basically, stay in the USA band. Regions outside of the USA have different band segments than we do. (Important if you are on a DXpedition and want to work JAs.) Also, it would be good to stay out of the FT8 segment. Ralph K9ZO

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Wes
On 1/22/2019 8:03 AM, Bruce wrote: You maybe confusing "Radiation Resistance" with "Feed point Resistance". It often will lower "Feed point Resistance", but raise "radiation Resistance". Really?  Why? Wes  N7WS _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband -

Re: Topband: Off-topic request

2019-01-22 Thread Ian Marsh
The Super CMOS 3 partial keyer kit has the same features as the Logikey K-5 and will key neg. voltages with a few extra components if I remember correctly. However, you do have to provide the box, button switches and connectors etc yourself. Details are on the Hamsupply/Idiom Press web site.

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Paul Christensen
>So, now we're (apparently) recommending he cut back his already minimal radial field..uhhh, really Wes? I agree with Wes' assessment -- as well as him questioning why Rr would increase with an increased number of radials. If Rr is changing significantly with the increase, then something else is

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Wes
I started this message a day or so ago.  Others have commented since with some similar thoughts, nevertheless, here is my take. Todd you're going the wrong direction. The feed point resistance should be going down. A 1/4 wave wire vertical should have a radiation resistance(Rr) of around 35

Re: Topband: Logikey K5

2019-01-22 Thread Mark K3MSB
I've been using the Logikit CMOS 4 Electronic Keyer (the K5’s little brother) for so long I can’t remember when I got it. The only drawback is that the original buttons wear out; that’s a known issue with the CMOS-4. I replaced them with 4 buttons from Radio Shack years ago and have had no

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Have to pay attention to everything he is reporting. He added a feedpoint choke per K9YC at the same time. Which may, depending on the physical connections at his feedpoint, have removed the feedline shield as an alternate “radial” in parallel with the increasing but still not full size radial

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Mike Smith VE9AA
So, now we're (apparently) recommending he cut back his already minimal radial field..uhhh, really Wes? =-Mike VE9AA I started this message a day or so ago. Others have commented since with some similar thoughts, nevertheless, here is my take. Todd you're going the wrong direction.

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
Exactly! Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2019, at 7:25 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: > > Al Christman K3LC thoroughly sliced and diced the tradeoffs of number vs > length for given total wire investment is his Mar/Apr 2004 NCJ paper. > > N6LF also has a lot to say. > > Grant KZ1W > >> On

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread K9FD
Way back some where around the original posting did he not say he had 2 160 antennas up and they are close to each other?  a short vertical and this antenna?   If so what is the short vertical doing,  is it floating or grounded or hooked to the ground system yet,  what is its status? Would make

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Grant Saviers
Al Christman K3LC thoroughly sliced and diced the tradeoffs of number vs length for given total wire investment is his Mar/Apr 2004 NCJ paper. N6LF also has a lot to say. Grant KZ1W On 1/22/2019 16:11 PM, Chortek, Robert L. wrote: “Wes cut his radial length to match the vertical L section

Topband: 2019 Visalia Top Band Dinner

2019-01-22 Thread Steve Lawrence via Topband
Announcing the Top Band Dinner at the 2019 Visalia International DX Convention. Buffet Dinner. Pre-Assigned seating. Door Prizes. $42/person. Program: "Snapshot: VK9XG to North America on 160m," Chris Duckling, G3SVL and "KH1/KH7Z Top Band From Baker Island" George Wallner, AA7JV For the most

Re: Topband: Logikey K5

2019-01-22 Thread K9FD
I have the K1 original model,  a K3 think it is on the desk,  and a K5 new in the box just in case,   never used a better keyer,  and have tried most of them. Have a Winkeyer in the drawer and it stays there 99 percent of the time,  its not a Logikeyer at all. Merv K9FD I don't know where you

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
“Wes cut his radial length to match the vertical L section height (see N6LF > reference). He didn't reduce the number of radials.” I didn’t think it was the “shortening” OF the length of the radials that would improve performance e.g. going from 10 125’ radials to 10 55’ radials (in the case

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Peter Bertini
I would think adding radials would lower the Radiation resistance. Also, the SWR curve should narrow as ground losses are reduced; since the effect of ground loss resistance swamping the results lessens. At some point I suggest, as others, that you get on for the contest and see what you can

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Bruce
You maybe confusing "Radiation Resistance" with "Feed point Resistance". It often will lower "Feed point Resistance", but raise "radiation Resistance". 73 Bruce On 1/22/2019 9:45 AM, Peter Bertini wrote: I would think adding radials would lower the Radiation resistance. Also, the SWR curve

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Paul Christensen
>"I would think adding radials would lower the Radiation resistance. Also, the SWR curve should narrow as ground losses are reduced; since the effect of ground loss resistance swamping the results lessens." The base resistance, not the radiation resistance is lowered by adding in radials. At

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
What is missing from that discussion about a maximized use of a given investment, is whether that investment however well maximized, is in fact adequate for the particular ground characteristics and circumstances. Four rotten eggs will deliver a rotten omelette no matter what you mix in or how

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Chortek, Robert L.
Meant to say “should not decrease loss ...” Sorry! Bob AA6VB Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Chortek, Robert L. > wrote: > > “Wes cut his radial length to match the vertical L section height (see N6LF >> reference). He didn't reduce the number of radials.” > > I didn’t

Topband: Updated K9YC common-mode choke PDF now available

2019-01-22 Thread Mike Waters
-- Forwarded message - From: Jim Brown Date: Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 11:36 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data) To: Mike Waters After nearly a year of work, I published a new "cookbook" last month. For reasons that are detailed in the accompanying

Re: Topband: Updated K9YC common-mode choke PDF now available

2019-01-22 Thread fmoeves
Mike and Jim Thanks for posting this good info.. Timely for me anyway. Fred KB4QZH Mike Waters wrote: > -- Forwarded message - > From: Jim Brown > Date: Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 11:36 PM > Subject: Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data) > To: Mike Waters

Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 193, Issue 19

2019-01-22 Thread Rune Øye
All, Thanks for feedback regarding "QRG on 160 in North and South America" It seems that i.e. 1821.5 an up to 28.5 on odd QRG is ok for USA and EU For i.e March 10th the 45 to 60 min greyline window in JA, TX could be as low as 1813.5 and lsn up. For the ZL guys it is just after our SS and

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread GEORGE WALLNER
Todd, The resistive component should be going down with more radials, not up. Maybe you are not measuring it the right way, or something in the radial system could be resonant (which may be a good thing). Normally, with these antennas, lower R is better (less loss). I have just measured a top

Topband: Off-topic request

2019-01-22 Thread Brad Anbro
Hello all, This is slightly off-topic but I was wondering if maybe I could get some help with this. I am looking for a "Logikey K-5" electronic CW keyer. I went to the Idiom Press web site and found out that they have "sold out" of them and there is no information on any future availability of

Topband: Logikey K5

2019-01-22 Thread Keith Hanson
I don't know where you can find them now, but you will have to pry my K5 from my cold dead hands!! Seriously, I built a WinKeyer for Field Day use and found it very nice with the advantage of the computer interface. Keith - AC9S _ Searchable Archives:

Re: Topband: Inverted L improvements - Part 3 (now with data)

2019-01-22 Thread Peter Bertini
Indeed, that is what I meant to say. On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:03 AM Bruce wrote: > You maybe confusing "Radiation Resistance" with "Feed point Resistance". > It often will lower "Feed point Resistance", but raise "radiation > Resistance". 73 Bruce > > On 1/22/2019 9:45 AM, Peter Bertini