Re: [tor-dev] . tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-14 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:20:11PM +0200, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > I agree, and this one in particular is important to some operators: by > allowing a relay to specify itself in the family, one can just have a single > configuration file for all relays in a family. Maybe somebody wants to

Re: [tor-dev] . tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-14 Thread Tim Wilson-Brown - teor
> On 15 Sep 2015, at 08:34, Roger Dingledine wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:20:11PM +0200, Tom van der Woerdt wrote: >> I agree, and this one in particular is important to some operators: by >> allowing a relay to specify itself in the family, one can just have a single

Re: [tor-dev] tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-14 Thread Sean Saito
>> Can this be downgraded to an informational message? (or eliminated entirely?) >> >> Penalties can be quite discouraging, particularly for minor configuration >> variants. >> >> Tim > >I agree, and this one in particular is important to some operators: by >allowing a relay to specify itself

Re: [tor-dev] . tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-13 Thread Sean Saito
Hi nusenu, >Do you consider in-family diversity so important - even though all of >them are run by a single entity anyway? > How about having a badge for tor network wide diversity? > I'd consider the tor network's overall diversity far more important than > in-family diversity because clients

Re: [tor-dev] . tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-13 Thread teor
> On 13 Sep 2015, at 18:18, Sean Saito wrote: > > >"No Self-Referencing Relays" > > >I'm not sure what exactly you mean by that but I assume it is a MyFamily > > >config where a relay includes his own fingerprint. Why does that hurt? > > >The unnecessary descriptor

Re: [tor-dev] . tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-13 Thread Virgil Griffith
We'll remove it. -V On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 at 05:20 Tom van der Woerdt wrote: > > On 13 Sep 2015, at 22:09, teor wrote: > > > On 13 Sep 2015, at 18:18, Sean Saito wrote: > > >"No Self-Referencing Relays" > > >I'm not sure what exactly you

[tor-dev] tor-roster's geo diversity badge and self-ref relays

2015-09-12 Thread nusenu
Hi, tor-roster has a badge for in-family geo diversity: "Geo Diversity in Relays (Number of countries / Number of relays >= 0.5)" Do you consider in-family diversity so important - even though all of them are run by a single entity anyway? I'd consider the tor network's overall diversity far