Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-14 Thread gharris999
cparker wrote: > I did similar but at the request to enter mysqueezebox details I just > held the left button down on the remote control. That took me out to a > setup menu and I just selected Settings -> Add remote library and > entered the IP address of my LMS. It connected to my server and j

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-14 Thread cparker
gharris999 wrote: > > ... > SBTouch connects to ethernet and displays "Connecting to > mysqueezebox.com" spiny. > At this point, *JUST WAIT* for the connection attempt to time out. > After the time-out, the SBTouch presents you with a menu that > includes Switch Library. > Select Switch Li

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-13 Thread JohnSwenson
Supertramp wrote: > Can Triode's EDO and Display Off components also be installed without > mysqueezebox.com. I have been looking under the plug-ins section in the > LMS web client, however I cannot find them. Just like to make sure I can > (re-)setup my SB Touch as a USB streaming client post th

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-13 Thread JohnSwenson
garym wrote: > My understanding is that the TOUCH and RADIO do *not* get their firmware > from the local LMS (unlike the older players). Of course with the TOUCH > there is a method for updating the firmware on a USB drive or SD Card. > I also have two new radios and I was going to do the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-13 Thread JohnSwenson
pallfreeman wrote: > Is "Factory Reset" really what it says? I get the impression it isn't, > but maybe there's some way to make it so? The Touch uses a union file system. It has the filesystem in the firmware image (the fab4.bin) and a "changed" filesystem. Any changes to any files in the firmw

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-13 Thread garym
Supertramp wrote: > Can Triode's EDO and Display Off components also be installed without > mysqueezebox.com. I have been looking under the plug-ins section in the > LMS web client, however I cannot find them. Just like to make sure I can > (re-)setup my SB Touch as a USB streaming client post th

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-13 Thread Supertramp
Can Triode's EDO and Display Off components also be installed without mysqueezebox.com. I have been looking under the plug-ins section in the LMS web client, however I cannot find them. Just like to make sure I can (re-)setup my SB Touch as a USB streaming client post the msb.com era. By the way,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread gharris999
JohnSwenson wrote: > My latest post (the one quoted) WAS for a brand new Touch straight out > of the box. The procedure got it up and running off TinyLMS without ever > having plugged in an ethernet cable or connected to wifi. > > At that point you can manually select ethernet or wifi and conne

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread Benefactor
garym wrote: > is there any particular reason I might want to keep any of these "as is" > (no initial setup). Thoughts? I'd plug them in, and set them up, if for no other reason than to make sure you didn't get any dead-in-box/defective units. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
pallfreeman wrote: > Is "Factory Reset" really what it says? I get the impression it isn't, > but maybe there's some way to make it so? Even if it is there is one difference , if you (or someone else ) already registered it it is known by mysqueezebox.com by it's mac address and this may change

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread pallfreeman
garym wrote: > I guess my real question: is there any *technical* value in having "not > ever setup" virgin Touch? (and I mean some reason other than resale > value. I don't care about that aspect) Is "Factory Reset" really what it says? I get the impression it isn't, but maybe there's some way

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: > No ,just proof of concept ( worst case ) if possible why not setup your > spares rigth now. > There will always be someone who missed that and it's good to have this > tread for future reference. Yes, that's my plan (set up now my spare TOUCHes and RADIOs and spare CONTROLLER (my w

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: > I guess my real question: is there any *technical* value in having "not > ever setup" virgin Touch? (and I mean some reason other than resale > value. I don't care about that aspect) No ,just proof of concept ( worst case ) if possible why not setup your spares rigth now. There w

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: > The local LMS eventually downloads a new version for Touch and Radio , I > think John's instructions also take care of the case with a new server > install and mysb.com dead and gone and also standalone use of the Touch > . > > But for example in my current server install I would s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: > My understanding is that the TOUCH and RADIO do *not* get their firmware > from the local LMS (unlike the older players). Of course with the TOUCH > there is a method for updating the firmware on a USB drive or SD Card. > I also have two new radios and I was going to do the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
JJZolx wrote: > Why is that even necessary? Can't they get updated firmware from a local > LMS? As long as you have a recent firmware file you should be > future-proof. My understanding is that the TOUCH and RADIO do *not* get their firmware from the local LMS (unlike the older players). Of cou

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread JJZolx
garym wrote: > I have 3 new in the box Touch players in my office at the moment. I'm > about ready to take them home and set each of the 3 up (connect to > ethernet, set a fixed IP, connect to mysb.com, update firmware, etc.). > Then I'm putting back in the box (these are backup units). Before I

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread garym
I have 3 new in the box Touch players in my office at the moment. I'm about ready to take them home and set each of the 3 up (connect to ethernet, set a fixed IP, connect to mysb.com, update firmware, etc.). Then I'm putting back in the box (these are backup units). Before I do all this, is there

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread JohnSwenson
gharris999 wrote: > John: I don't think you've answered my question...which is: how does one > set up a -BRAND NEW- SBTouch that's never been powered on before without > having to connect to mysb.com? > > The procedure you describe above seems to be for a SBTouch that's > already been configured

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-12 Thread gharris999
JohnSwenson wrote: > Yes I did, here is the procedure: > > Put a modern firmware (say 7.7.2) fab4.bin in the root dir of a clean > USB stick. (it doesn't have to be completely empty, but it definitely > should NOT contain a music library or any other media files) Disconnect > everything from t

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-09 Thread Supertramp
JohnSwenson wrote: > Yes I did, here is the procedure: > John S. Thank John. I copied your procedure into a document for future reference. Can Triode's EDO and Display Off components also be installed without mysqueezebox.com. I have been looking under the plug-ins section in the LMS web clien

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-08 Thread JohnSwenson
gharris999 wrote: > Wha?? Sorry, I fell asleep holding the left corner. > > Seriously, left remote button press didn't work; swiping didn't work; > pressing and holding the upper left corner didn't work. I'd like to > hear confirmation from JohnSwenson that pressing and holding the upper > lef

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-08 Thread pallfreeman
gharris999 wrote: > Seriously, left remote button press didn't work; swiping didn't work; > pressing and holding the upper left corner didn't work. Oh, great. :( Thanks for trying. And, if you've managed to resist the urge to tinker and kept it unconfigured, respect. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-08 Thread gharris999
pallfreeman wrote: > It's more than 12 hours since the OP. I hope he's not still holding > it... Wha?? Sorry, I fell asleep holding the left corner. Seriously, left remote button press didn't work; swiping didn't work; pressing and holding the upper left corner didn't work. I'd like to hear co

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-08 Thread pallfreeman
Mnyb wrote: > Maybe hold a bit longer It's more than 12 hours since the OP. I hope he's not still holding it... pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-08 Thread toby10
Try a screen swipe L to R? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96209 ___ Touc

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-07 Thread Mnyb
gharris999 wrote: > I've got a brand-new Touch here and I'm trying to specifically set it up > with no mysb.com connection. I'm unplugging my broadband modem from my > router during setup to ensure that mysb.com isn't available. > > For whatever reason, it is completely stuck on the "Connecting

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-07 Thread gharris999
JohnSwenson wrote: > The swipe is specifically turned off in the initial setup section. There > is code in there that turns off all the "normal" over-ride methods and > specifically turns on the "press and hold in the left corner". > Everywhere else the swipe works, but not in the initial setup.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-07 Thread JJZolx
ply3908 wrote: > Factory reset will not change any firmware but will wipe out all the > settings and add-ons. You have to go thru the same steps as initial > setup. The question was more to whether or not some data (could be a single bit of data) is kept in non-volatile memory that would direct

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-07 Thread ply3908
Factory reset will not change any firmware but will wipe out all the settings and add-ons. You have to go thru the same steps as initial setup. ply3908's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38634 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-07 Thread JohnSwenson
JJZolx wrote: > Thanks, John. Did you say that the initial from-the-factory setup > differs from an after-factory-reset setup? (Maybe it was someone else.) The out of the box initial setup and the "factory reset" setup may be the same, but I'm not sure, remember that the factory reset does not

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread JJZolx
Thanks, John. Did you say that the initial from-the-factory setup differs from an after-factory-reset setup? (Maybe it was someone else.) JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread JohnSwenson
JJZolx wrote: > I'm pretty certain that a left-right swipe accomplishes the same thing, > unless it's been removed from recent firmware. Both actions take you > Home from anywhere in the navigational structure. The swipe is specifically turned off in the initial setup section. There is code in t

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread JJZolx
JohnSwenson wrote: > OK, I found out how to do the setup out of box or after a factory reset > without mysqueezebox.com. > ... > The basic thing to know is that when you are in a screen that is not > going anywhere or trying to connect to mysqueezebox.com or some other > screen which wants you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread JohnSwenson
pallfreeman wrote: > No offense intended, but: LOL. I started to type in my "configuration" > then realised I'd be here all night. :) > > Let's just say it's a large and complicated configuration, and what I > want to do is to be able to set up a Touch without it connecting to the > outside worl

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread pallfreeman
JohnSwenson wrote: > I'm confused now about what your configuration is and what exactly you > want to do. Please reitterate here and we can probably come up with a > solution. > No offense intended, but: LOL. I started to type in my "configuration" then realised I'd be here all night. :) Let's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread JohnSwenson
pallfreeman wrote: > I'm pretty sure I suggested that in another thread and somebody told me > it wouldn't work. > > Oh well. I'll just have to try it for meself. I'm confused now about what your configuration is and what exactly you want to do. Please reitterate here and we can probably come

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread pallfreeman
toby10 wrote: > Which you can do after the Touch has the network settings you will be > inputing and plugging in the cable to the router (or using WiFi, I > guess). I'm pretty sure I suggested that in another thread and somebody told me it wouldn't work. Oh well. I'll just have to try it for m

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread toby10
pallfreeman wrote: > . But it needs to connect to LMS to d/l the latest firmware... Which you can do after the Touch has the network settings you will be inputing and plugging in the cable to the router (or using WiFi, I guess). -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread pallfreeman
toby10 wrote: > Avoiding MySB.com is the easy part, just unplug router from modem. Whoa, unplug myself from the intertubes? That'd mess up my SLA. :) > I've never messed with DHCP/staic/fixed etc..., but I think you can > simply plug in an ethernet cable to the Touch and the other end of cable

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread toby10
pallfreeman wrote: > Good post. > > Assuming Amazon get around to sending me another Touch, I'll definitely > give this a try. > > I'm wondering what the simplest way of wiring a touch is, so that it > doesn't immediately get a guest address from DHCP and hit > mysqueezebox.com. Assign static

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread pallfreeman
JohnSwenson wrote: > > I have tried these scenarios and they do work. If you need to (re)setup > without mysqueezebox.com give it a try. > Good post. Assuming Amazon get around to sending me another Touch, I'll definitely give this a try. I'm wondering what the simplest way of wiring a tou

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-06 Thread JohnSwenson
OK, I found out how to do the setup out of box or after a factory reset without mysqueezebox.com. The basic thing to know is that when you are in a screen that is not going anywhere or trying to connect to mysqueezebox.com or some other screen which wants you to do something you don't want to d

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-05 Thread toby10
danco wrote: > And, at a guess, this variable does *not* get reset if one goes back to > factory default. > > I say that because (as a result of problems I am having) I tried setting > my new Touch back to factory defaults with my router disconnected from > the internet. The Touch made an ethern

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-05 Thread danco
JohnSwenson wrote: > Yesterday I got a new Touch in and tried a number of things to try and > get it setup without connecting to mysb.com. No luck. The intial screen > that tries to connect to mysb.com cannot be over-ridden with the > "swipe". I tried putting the firmware on a USB stick, that mad

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-05 Thread JohnSwenson
Yesterday I got a new Touch in and tried a number of things to try and get it setup without connecting to mysb.com. No luck. The intial screen that tries to connect to mysb.com cannot be over-ridden with the "swipe". I tried putting the firmware on a USB stick, that made no difference. I tried con

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-09-04 Thread Benefactor
JohnSwenson wrote: > The easiest way to bring up a Touch is to connect it to the internet so > it starts up going to mysb.com, this will load the latest firmware > (7.7.2 these days). Go ahead let it do that. Then connect to your local > 7.6.1 SBS, this will change the firmware to the right vers

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread ply3908
We need to figure out away to setup the Touch w/o MySB.com. Since we will need it if the Touch need to perform a factory reset. ply3908's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38634 View this thread: htt

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread JohnSwenson
cliveb wrote: > John - thanks for the detailed info. Your reply arrived while I was in > the middle of composing my previous follow-up. > > One final question: if I were to load the correct firmware from a USB > stick, does that mean it need not connect to mysb.com at all? Is there > some step i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread Benefactor
Thank you. I was going to just leave them in their boxes, sealed. Setting them up with the correct firmware (and also making sure they work correctly), makes a whole lot more sense. Benefactor's Profile: http://forums.sli

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread JohnSwenson
Benefactor wrote: > Pardon my very dumb question, but do you mean just browse to your local > music library? > > I just picked up a 2 Touch units as "spares", and want to make sure they > are set up correctly before I put them away for safekeeping. That is correct, just go to the music on your

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread Benefactor
JohnSwenson wrote: > The easiest way to bring up a Touch is to connect it to the internet so > it starts up going to mysb.com, this will load the latest firmware > (7.7.2 these days). Go ahead let it do that. *Then connect to your local > 7.6.1 SBS*, this will change the firmware to the right ve

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread cliveb
John - thanks for the detailed info. Your reply arrived while I was in the middle of composing my previous follow-up. One final question: if I were to load the correct firmware from a USB stick, does that mean it need not connect to mysb.com at all? Is there some step in the initial setup that gi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread cliveb
Atlantic wrote: > Good questions. I don't yet have a Touch (and there aren't many left) > but I did find this post: > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?66898-Bizzare-setup-procedure-with-new-SBC-FW-should-i-file-a-bug&p=451474&viewfull=1#post451474 Thanks, but that thread appears t

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread JohnSwenson
cliveb wrote: > I am a long time SB user (since 2005) but have never owned a Touch. Nor > have I ever used mysb.com. I use a local library and occasionally listen > to some internet radio via the local LMS (version 7.6.1). Given the > recent news from Logitech, I'm contemplating buying some backu

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread Atlantic
cliveb wrote: > > > 1. On initial setup, can a Touch be connected to a local LMS rather than > mysb.com? If so, how? > > 2. If a Touch is connected to a local LMS, does that local LMS provide > the necessary Touch firmware, in the same way it does for the older > players? > > 3. If the answer

[SlimDevices: Touch] Setting up a Touch without connecting to mysb.com

2012-08-30 Thread cliveb
I am a long time SB user (since 2005) but have never owned a Touch. Nor have I ever used mysb.com. I use a local library and occasionally listen to some internet radio via the local LMS (version 7.6.1). Given the recent news from Logitech, I'm contemplating buying some backup players for the time