Why doesn't the SB Touch support Network Attached Storage? I have a NAS
in another room and would like to have the SB read from it directly.
Is this something that might be included in future releases? I think
it would be a great feature.
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rpellegr
Search the forums and you'll see it can be done by mounting the NAS via
NFS. That said, it's not clear to me that performance is satisfactory,
unless maybe you configure things to store the SQL database locally on
a USB stick or SD card attached to the Touch. In other words, it can be
done, but
JohnSwenson;525186 Wrote:
I also don't want want people to blow this out of proportion, the
worst I can get out of the touch (playing flac files on the local server
with a USB drive plugged in going got headphones) is actually still
really good, much better than most of the equipment in
foxx;525490 Wrote:
To be honest, the sole reason for me to wait on the Touch rather than to
buy a Classic now for an absolute bargain price was the perceived
capability of the Touch to act as a server together with a USB drive
loaded with flac files.
Makes me think ...
Lets try again.
Ok, thank you for bringing it down to the point. I'm put to rest.
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I was using a USB DAC when I noticed the issue, but subsequently noticed
it all the other outputs so I came to the conclusion it was NOT a USB
specific issue.
After a lot of listening tests and trying different things I came to
the conclusion that the primary correlation was decoding flac files
Yes - headphones - that was it... couldn't remember that part - I never
did test that... might get chance in 2-3 weeks time
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Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good
In another thread it was mentioned that the use of the touch internal
server may degrade audio quality due to the limited resources of the
CPU.
Is this really so? Would audio quality really be better if the touch
was served from a PC instead of from its own SBS?
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foxx
foxx;524956 Wrote:
In another thread it was mentioned that the use of the touch internal
server may degrade audio quality due to the limited resources of the
CPU.
Is this really so? Would audio quality really be better if the touch
was served from a PC instead of from its own SBS?
No,
DaveWr;524972 Wrote:
I think it was Mr Swenson on jitter increase when USB port in use.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=481661postcount=8
Dave
Subsequent to that report, I did some ADM tests (which JS unfortunately
couldn't replicate - can't remember why now) which
So much tech talk my head is spinning !
So some questions in plain English . . .
Assuming a I have a Touch with an attached USB HDD;
1) I can manage (add, delete, organise, tag) files on the Touch HDD
through my PC or Apple via the home wireless network.
2) The Touch will be able to play the
liffy99;524731 Wrote:
3) Plugins, like Alien BBC, wouldn't be available (but they would be if
one went down the conventional NAS / Squeezecentre route)
No plugins but there are Applets and there is a BBCiPlayer applet which
gives access to the Listen Again programs for Touch (and also
1) I can manage (add, delete, organise, tag) files on the Touch HDD
through my PC or Apple via the home wireless network.
Yes.
2) The Touch will be able to play the content of the attached HDD with
no PC needing to be on elsewhere.
Yes.
3) Plugins, like Alien BBC, wouldn't be available
2. Yes, no computer needed to run USB HDD to Touch using TinySC server,
assuming your music files are a native format to the Touch (Touch can
handle most music audio formats)
4. Yes, Touch can be a controller for other players as well as the
server for those players. Touch needs to be ON
bpa;524733 Wrote:
No plugins but there are Applets and there is a BBCiPlayer applet which
gives access to the Listen Again programs for Touch (and also Radio).
So is this an applet which sits on the Touch and gives similar
functionality to the iPlayer plugin and doesn't require a PC with SBS
Justme;512116 Wrote:
So, I presume then that the mp3tunes locker is simply an App.
It's both an app and a pluggin. If the player is connected to
MySqueezebox.com then you use the app. If the player is connected to a
local SbS server then to use Mp3tunes Music Locker, it requires the
plugin
Justme;512135 Wrote:
I wish CD's came with pre-ripped mp3's. Everyone rips them once they
are bought... oh well...
Even if they did, the meta data would still need to be edited, not
everyones idea of genre for example is the same.
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andynormancx
Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes,
Justme;512135 Wrote:
So, when I stop playing music from mp3tunes, it will revert straight
back to normal tinySBS mode and continue functioning as normal.
No. I don't believe it ever switches servers by itself. You have to
first do something that requires the local TinySbS server, like going
aubuti;511963 Wrote:
You wouldn't need to consciously switch to mysb. You could just go to My
Apps MP3Tunes on the SB Touch's home menu. I haven't used MP3Tunes in
a long time, but that's how it works with regular SBS, isn't it?
Thanks aubuti, so apps work with the tiny server, it's just
Justme;512093 Wrote:
Thanks aubuti, so apps work with the tiny server, it's just plugins that
don't work. I get a little confused sometimes where the line is drawn
between a plugin and an app.
Me too, Logitech have to make a wiki on it I think, with an complete
overview.
Some Apps also needs
JohnSwenson;496069 Wrote:
So if you are willing to manually set things up and live with the
limitations of a remote database there is nothing stopping you from
doing so. Go for it.
I'm guessing that the response of the ui with a remote database will be
too slow for most people to tolerate,
It really wouldn't make much to run the server on the Touch and house
the files on an NAS. You could do better by getting an NAS with
sufficient processing power and memory to run the full Squeezebox Server
so you'd have such niceties as a web interface, transcoding, and
plugins. If you're
So from my calculations the touch WILL act as a general purpose NAS at
2.65MB/s (from what I have read elsewhere)in all honesty this is
quicker than my current NAS which is a WB MBWE (Mk1) so yes things have
come on but as long as you dont need the speed then it could be used.
If I buy a new
trouty00;495797 Wrote:
If I buy a new NAS (as I also have run out of space so need to invest
somewhere)then will the touch built in server be able to access network
shares which holds music?
Not according to the beta testers, it will only access locally mounted
disks.
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alfista
alfista;495840 Wrote:
Not according to the beta testers, it will only access locally mounted
disks.
hmmm, poor show! not even using the shortcut trick (putting a shortcut
to LAN share holding your music on a local sd card say)
I'm gonna have to think about this.
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trouty00
Andy, on an earlier comment I made, will the touch be able to run as a
general NAS albeit not lighting quick? I'm assuming so. And when you say
it will make the touch very slow, wheres the bottleneck going to be?
I have no idea about the hardware inside the touch but obviously it
will use some
iPhone;495863 Wrote:
Nobody said the Touch will run or work as an NAS. The Touch is NOT an
NAS. An NAS is a box with low power CPU that acts as a file server IE
Network Attached Storage. The Touch in TinySC mode currently only
recognizes the first drive it sees. On the network, one can
Hmmm, now I'm curious. Is there a file size limit to the tiny SbS? I
was planning to use a touch with 1TB drive holding about 60,000 files at
the weekend place.
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trouty00;495868 Wrote:
Firstly let me state I'm not trying to cause trouble, I am simply trying
to understand the capability's and pro's of cons of configuring the
touch in a certain way which I understand is not how its necessarily
designed to be used.
From what I have read the usb drive
trouty00;495847 Wrote:
hmmm, poor show! not even using the shortcut trick (putting a shortcut
to LAN share holding your music on a local sd card say)
I'm gonna have to think about this.
As Andy mentioned it can actually be done, but you have to do it by
hand. SSH into the Touch mount the
So if you are willing to manually set things up and live with the
limitations of a remote database there is nothing stopping you from
doing so. Go for it.
Hehe... and if you manage to do a 3rd party applet do wrap it all up in a nice
GUI, then your PayPal account might see new heights :-)
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Mnyb;495432 Wrote:
Squeezeplay on the PC would also act as a controller, so control is
possible and some settings can be accessed that way to ?
yes, absolutely. I'm embarassed I overlooked that. That would be the
most normal way for a pc to interact with the SB Touch.
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aubuti
mdconnelly;495409 Wrote:
Ah! Thanks for the info. Makes sense. So in a household of several
SBs, Duets and a Touch in mini SC mode, control would only be possible
from SB remotes, a Controller or iPeng on the iPhone. There wouldn't be
a way to configure anything or select music via a
STEVESPUR;495220 Wrote:
I have had a Duet for most of this year and barring last month's server
problem have had no issues with it at all - a very good experience in
fact.
However the 'PC needs to be on' item has constantly nagged at me.
So with the Touch looming, my question is - If I
iPhone;495276 Wrote:
Hello and Welcome to the Forum.
... One also loses the WebUI when only running a Touch.
Hmmm, didn't think of that. So would this imply that a Touch, running
as a tiny SBC with hard disk attached, could ONLY be controlled by the
Touch screen itself? That is, no
mdconnelly;495292 Wrote:
Hmmm, didn't think of that. So would this imply that a Touch, running
as a tiny SBC with hard disk attached, could ONLY be controlled by the
Touch screen itself? That is, no WebUI, no Controller, no iPhone app,
etc..? Syncing with other SBs?
No, it wouldn't imply
Ah! Thanks for the info. Makes sense. So in a household of several
SBs, Duets and a Touch in mini SC mode, control would only be possible
from SB remotes, a Controller or iPeng on the iPhone. There wouldn't be
a way to configure anything or select music via a laptop?
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mdconnelly
Mike
Squeezeplay on the PC would also act as a controller, so control is
possible and some settings can be accessed that way to ?
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Mnyb
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