Linux Mint is getting 10% and another 10% is going to a fund to support free
software projects. This is if you use the linuxmint link. The libre link will
fund Trisquel just as it did before. Trisquel never got 25% of everything.
It's only ever got 25% of the profits from
I don't know about this specifically although nouveau is the default driver
in Ubuntu for nVidia graphics cards. nouveau is also going into the mainline
kernel so it may become the default in other distributions as well. Linus has
also criticized nVidia recently despite attacking the free
It isn't possible to operate ThinkPenguin solely on the funds from Trisquel
and other free distributions. Trisquel is not an insubstantial contributor to
our bottom line though. It's far surpassed what I ever thought possible. We
don't support Trisquel for the money. It has to do with it
This was just an example to say that developers from those enterprises
usually use a lot of non-free software to develop their solutions, it is true
that the Free and OpenSouce variant of this can do the difference but until
that a long time passed between the release and the patch.
As for
The switching is a good argument for why we should support Linux Mint and
other distributions. While this is not justification for Linux Mint's
decision to include non-free components they don't contribute to the
development of non-free software. Canonical on the other hand does. Or they
You seems upset t3g.
You make it seem as if you just uncovered a conspiracy that Chris now only
ships systems with proprietary operating systems, and that he lobbies
microsoft with 10% of his profits.
Please, t3g, for the sake of everyone here, go away. The fact that you are
complaining
Save up!
It's not really that important you donate to this cause in particular. There
are lots of worthy causes that are underfunded. I've donated significantly
more than I probably should have.
Some of the projects I'm a big fan of you could donate to:
Trisquel:
Badly needs the money if
I think Linus was mainly upset about the state of NVIDIA support for
GNU/Linux. I somehow think Linus doesn't care whether that means more support
for the proprietary driver or nouveau.
NVIDIA used to maintain the free nv driver, but apparently it was never very
good. It got abandoned by
Is very bad advise Linux Mint. Of course. But the important in my opinion is
the hardware. And it is the same. If you install Trisquel it works perfectly
because ThinkPenguin computers run free systems without non-free firmwares
and non-free drivers. Without dependency of this.
It's the
To me, this practice is the hardware equivalent to dual-licensing
free/proprietary in the software world. I have never really seen an ethical
problem with dual-licensing and I do not see any with hardware either. In
both cases, the user is proposed solutions that fully respects her freedoms
Such dual licensing makes getting help from free software developers
harder (e.g. due to copyright assignment or contributor agreements,
while having unintegrated patches in various distros/forks). I don't
see any similar problems with supporting both free and nonfree distros
on hardware working
Digging up this thread just to write that t3g was definitely wrong and the
rest of us right. Who said as always? :-)
Ubuntu eventually understood that the GPLv3 does not force them to disclose
their private key and, as consequence, decided to stick to GRUB 2 (in the
current release and the
So... it was as I said xD This is simply (explained in a Aliasbody's way)
like a Free Software Developer that would create a version for Linux Mint or
Ubuntu (or even Windows). The product itself is free software, the idea is to
promote free software, but anyone with their platform could use
The problem is that those projects are hard to find. I mean, I know the first
3 because of my search (and my old support for Humble Indie Bundle).
I just don't understand why the FSF website is so... well... oldie... I mean
they adapted the Funding part to support a better funding for
On 11/01/2012 11:14 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote:
It isn't possible to operate ThinkPenguin solely on the funds from
Trisquel and other free distributions. Trisquel is not an
insubstantial contributor to our bottom line though. It's far
surpassed what I ever thought possible. We don't
The problem is that some of you are wishy-washy in your viewpoint on this and
supporting him. In the past, Chris has corrected others in the way of free
software because himself and his company are strong supporters and gave the
impression that non-free software is bad.
It annoys me a
The point of Think Penguin is not about shipping a free-software-only
operating system, the point is selling a computer that does not require
non-free software to run at full potential.
RMS buys computers from Lemote[1] that promote several non-free distros[2].
[1]
I know that some of you don't consider Debian free software due to the
availability of non-free repositories even though the stock install is free.
With that in mind, TP can't be considered a true free software company since
there is the option to get systems with non-free software installed
Just installed Trisquel for the first time and I am learning my way around.
I think that I have Tor installed, because the command:
sudo apt-get install tor
gives me this:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
tor is already the newest
I don't know to do it with vidalia installed on trisquel.But if you download
tor bundle from here
http://torproject.org.in/dist/torbrowser/linux/tor-browser-gnu-linux-i686-2.2.37-1-dev-en-US.tar.gz
, extract it.
Then open directory named tor-browser.
right click on that directory and
Wow, this worked like magic, thank you very much! I wish the Tor site had
this instruction in their directions for GNU/Linux installations so I
wouldn't have to bother you.
Thanks again!
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:01 PM, lddi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Wow, this worked like magic, thank you very much! I wish the Tor site had
this instruction in their directions for GNU/Linux installations so I
wouldn't have to bother you.
Thanks again!
Tor is a very sensitive package and AFAIK it's
I disagree with you. If you think you can do better than Think Penguin then
go do it otherwise I think you should appreciate that there is someone out
there trying to further the cause by selling hardware that can run using free
software. The difference between TP and other companies is that
Thank you Stefano! I run both commands. For the 2nd however, I got this:
apt-get autoremove
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you
root?
How do I tell it I am root? I created the
That's a valid argument for not linking to or endorsing www (dot)
thinkpenguin (dot) com or linuxmint (dot) thinkpenguin (dot) com.
However, http://libre.thinkpenguin.com is still completely free of any trace
of anything nonfree. The only way to contrive it as unethical to support
With the consumer market moving to smartphones and tablets and with those who
use a PC stick with Windows, the real target should be enterprise.
Once Tor is running (green icon from Vidalia) you need to set the browser to
use Tor as proxy.
Here is the configuration with default Abrowser, Tor and Vidalia
Abrowser:
Edit Preferences Advanced Network Settings...
SOCKS Host: 127.0.0.1 Port: 9050
(SOCKS v5)
In my view t3g has his reason to point out this thing.
Chris is doing business and he try to encrease business, but if you choose
free software way you cannot sell pc with mint.
Using free software for chris isn't only for the philosofy of it, is for
business because we know well the hardware
People who want Mint installed on a computer are people who are either 1)
unaware that proprietary software controls them or 2) not considering their
freedoms as important (which is sad from my point of view).
In the first case, by buying a computer at ThinkPenguin, the user can easily
Go on: start a company selling only computers with 100% free software to
enterprise. I am serious. I would support your company.
Trolling is easy. Creating is difficult.
Not trolling. Just find it humorous that you guys drill it down everyone
else's throats about how things should be free software with no ifs, ands, or
buts and then come around and defend the pre-installation of an operating
system that conflicts with your ideals.
It is true that you can
The error message means another application is locking some directories
used by the package manager. Maybe, Synaptic is running. Or the update
manager. Or apt-get/aptitude in another terminal. Just close this other
applications and execute this command again:
$ sudo apt-get autoremove
There are (and always have been) ifs, ands, or and buts when talking about
free software. For instance, I believe that most of us consider positive:
To use proprietary software for the goal of developing free software (rms
himself was using Unix to replace its components);
To let proprietary
On Fri, 2 Nov 2012 19:31:35 +0100 (CET)
lddi...@yahoo.com wrote:
Thank you Stefano! I run both commands. For the 2nd however, I got this:
apt-get autoremove
E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to lock the administration directory
Bump.
Sticky post... please!
--
Stefano
Fortune of the day: You feel a whole lot more like you do now than you did
when you used to.
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Hi,
I just booted this edition's live environment and noticed, using the
Orca screen reader, that the battery level indicator is never spoken; it
is either skipped, invisible to Orca, or is missing from the bottom
panel. I'm doing this on an Asus 1015 PE, on which Trisquel 5.0, 5.5,
and
while I generally agree with the sentiment in certain cases dual-licensing
does have potential issues. It doesn't ensure users rights are protected for
the company licensing the software. At least not if it is under a BSD license
or similar. You could also license it under a completely
You have a slight point here. However we have NOT changed the position that
we held before. Promoting non-free software (linking to it) is bad. I'm not
going to say it is good. We're not perfect.
We're working to fix a number of issues like this ourselves. Our site has a
section that
There could definitely be more focus on fund raising for free software by
projects themselves. It's something I'm passionate about and I think that we
(at ThinkPenguin) are on a good way to raising significant amounts for free
software projects. I just to remember to keep going on the other
Well I've tried to submit a style of forum ( www.trisquel-users.com ) but for
all the people who complain nobody has yet commented on it
We mostly need 3 thins in my opinion:
1 - Sticky important notes (like the rules)
2 - Sub-categories of the forum (I know that we are not a big community but
we need to split ideas and topics between different pages and sub-forums.
3 - Have a fixed admin only for the forum (or someone that
Some interesting suggestions :) but I respectfully disagree with your 3rd
suggestion (just my opinion). The forum should be here as a tool for
communication, but shouldn't be over-complicated.
Also keep in mind that some people use the forum from their email client
which might make those
Site seems to be down at the moment.
Did you figure out how to duplicate the forum to email functionality? I
suspect that is the number one thing to worry about.
The other might be spam.
This should probably be voted on. Maybe someone can create a poll? Or we
could just tally the votes within the forum here. I don't really care which
way it goes personally. For the size of this community the forums are
probably better simplified. Or maybe two sections. One for spam/trolls
That is awesome. I'm glad to hear this.
Oh no! You called Chris out! Now surely he will leave out of embarrassment,
and all hail t3g!
No, seriously, I'm starting to agree with others that you need to stop
posting here. I see you defending proprietary software all the time, so you
really don't gain anything for calling somebody
I haven't supported proprietary software in this thread. I am doing quite the
opposite and calling out Chris and his company for allowing proprietary
software to be associated with Think Penguin.
As for having a distro look like Linux Mint, you can always go to their
in this thread
Need I say more?
...eh, not really
I don't fully support proprietary software and prefer to find an open source
version/alternative first. I don't use the Adobe or Microsoft products for
development and I don't run Windows either. I'm also not naive and realize
there are those rare opportunities when I may have to use
Please don't call free software 'open source'. The term ignores the essential
social freedoms that free software necessitates.
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