Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Some one needs to be brave and just do it! Take control if there isn't anybody volunteering. Some one took the initiative to setup some new forum software and is working out the kinks and issues with it for instance. http://www.trisquel-users.com/ We don't really have enough leaders in this

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread chris
While there is a lot of good free software I don't think we should fool ourselves in thinking it is all great. Really the technical advantages of free software exist with and without the quality. There is one chipset with a free driver that is just garbage. Unfortunately we have no

Re: [Trisquel-users] Now using Beta, released 12-November

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Yea- it definitely seems to be coming along. It looks good, installs without issue, and has got the hardware support we want. Even the AR9170 chipset is working out of the box which was one of our concerns I have (it's the only USB N chipset with a free driver at the moment). The other one

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fallback mode to disappear - DE brainstorming

2012-11-15 Thread tegskywalker
I've had issues where it didn't load theme after login but if I logged out and back in, the theme would load and didn't get a mate-settings-daemon error.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread augustodasilvar
Sorry friends, my intention was not to discourage companions. I really believe that we need to organize ourselves to not lose efforts in translating always the same documentation. I'm still not very familiar with the site Trisquel. But I will take part in cataloging the pages to find

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Regardless of it being the least dependent on non-free software I can't justify to myself recommending a toy in a free software forum that is still extremely hostile towards users freedoms. I'd have less of an issue with this if ZaReason cared about free software. There actions don't suggest

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
I'd highly encourage people to hold off on the tablets and Raspberry Pi type devices. If you can get away without a cell phone do it. Cell phones are tracking devices and also dependent on a lot of non-free software. These devices are all extremely hostile to users freedom. If you don't

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread chris
There is a lot of cooperation between projects already. What is gained by merging the branding exactly? Something more tightly integrated? I'm not so sure even that would be true. We're all working together as it is. Trisquel works with ThinkPenguin. We're working with Atheros. Trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread chris
It's not a priority project. I believe it was at one time though. Linux came along and well.. the objective is freedom and it fulfilled that (until the blobs came-but then it was forked anyway).

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Yea- the only reason I can see to use Hurd over Linux-Libre is technical. I'm not sure what those technical advantages are. The Linux-Libre are well known though (hardware support). From the free software perspective it doesn't matter which (free) kernel you use.

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread chris
From what Bazzy pointed out it looks like it is a resources issue. Why bother packaging for users what already exists elsewhere? Which is sort of obvious anyway and consistent with the aims of the project.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread onpon4
I feel inclined to mention that, while there is not a completely free OS for it (GNU/Linux with mainline Linux is used), the OpenPandora mostly gets the hardware fine. It's only dependent on nonfree software for 3D and WiFi (and the WiFi is easily solved if you just get a USB 2.0 Wifi dongle

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
Someone said good things below are just a fantasy. The good things would be: 1. It could exist as long as FSF exists. 2. It could become the main libre distribution, effectively obsoleting other libre distributions, which in turn unites the shattered community. * * * I remind that GNU

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
If something, then maintaining 10 different super minority libre distros is absurd waste of resources, and reinventing a wheel is genius when compared.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
Why don't we do a quick organization ? Example. Reginaldo you could start translating the Documentation principal page http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/documentation (and when you finished you could go to the http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/programs page. While anyone else could take a page from

Re: [Trisquel-users] Now using Beta, released 12-November

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
Can anyone confirm if the boot graphical bug from (at least) the nouveau was fixed ? And how about the shutdown time ? On Ubuntu it takes 3 seconds, but on Trisquel almost 10 on a fresh install.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
What I could propose to you (if you decision is not already made) is to use Brigantia, just to try it out, see how it works, play a little bit etc... But when Trisquel Toutatis 6.0 is out (maybe before the end of the year ?.. but it is not so far from the release date in my opinion), then

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin All-in-One New Mouse Pads

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
Sorry for reviving this old post (even if it is always a little bit of free marketing :D) but, do you (ThinkPenguin.com) have plans to start shipping a Wireless small metalic keyboard like the one that apple have ? I know that their is a lot of imitations out there so it is not exclusive to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread viniciussm
I will start with Hardware now and get it ready to upload when enabled. What type of file do I attach?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Now using Beta, released 12-November

2012-11-15 Thread Dave Hunt
Startup and shutdown times are still a bit longer than those of Ubuntu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
Well any readable file like a simple txt, the idea is to send it to Ruben or show it here after that so anyone is good :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Now using Beta, released 12-November

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
:S... I remember the time when Arch Linux had a bigger time on shutdown and startup than Ubuntu.. then with SystemD all changed, and now it is Trisquel to have the slowest Startup and Shutdown.. The only think that I've noticed is that, when I use the Trisquel's grub I have the splash

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread onpon4
4.0 and 5.5 are losing support at around the same time, so there really isn't any reason to use 4.0 instead of 5.5 unless you already have it installed. Whether you prefer 5.5 or 6.0 depends on whether you can stand the testing, of course. About nonfree games: that's about the position

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread viniciussm
With the exception of Webcam and 3G modems, the remaining sections are translated. I will try to think of a better formatting (english version is below translated version, with 3 tabs to make distinction). We also need some kind of private communication between contributors otherwise we will

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread aliasbody
Nice Job :D Here is the final result corrected : 2. Na seção Políticas, selecione as opções 'Activo' e 'A aceitar tarefas', assim como 'Partilhada? se desejar partilhar a impressora através da Internet. 5. A seção Opções de tarefa, permite-lhe de mudar a forma como a impressora trata

[Trisquel-users] Re : Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread magicbanana
I agree.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread viniciussm
In pt-br the 'c' in Activo is muted and ommitted from the word. Partilhada is not wrong, but it makes you look like a weirdo when you say that. We instead say 'compartilhada'. 'permite-lhe de mudar' looks wrong in our grammar. I will try to adapt your work: 2. Na seção Políticas, selecione

[Trisquel-users] Re : GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread magicbanana
Distributions assemble software packages and there are no two identical distributions. Most of the packaging is done by the mainstream distribution and reused by the derivatives. Bugs in the applications are fixed upstream. In the end, there is little duplicate work.

[Trisquel-users] Desktop crashes on trisquel 5.0

2012-11-15 Thread nerijus . pauza
Hello, I'm new to trisquel and GNU/Linux OS as today I had problem with my desktop on DELL VOSTRO 220s as I loged in to my account. Computer was running slow and were looking true processes running and couldn't see anything that would cause computer to crash. When I try to open Firefox

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
On 13/11/12 07:42, mattij.la...@kolumbus.fi wrote: There is the Vivaldi tablet project. Project page: http://makeplaylive.com/ Forums: http://opentablets.org/ Main developer's Blog: http://aseigo.blogspot.fi/ They are making a GNU/Linux tablet that should be fully free software compatible.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Rhombus-Tech are making progress on a KDE Tablet. There are also in talks with the FSF in doing a fund-raising campaign like they did for Media Goblin. There will be an Free Software compatible card that has an attractive spec of 1.2GHz 1 core CPU and 2GB RAM, if I remember correctly. The tablet

[Trisquel-users] Re : Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread magicbanana
And who tells that a game is not functional? It may contain some spyware or even some backdoor. Who can tell without accessing the source code. Besides, the freedom 2 (the freedom to distribute exact copy to help your neighbor) should not be forgotten even for the artistic material.

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
Who said there is two exactly identical distributions? The point was that instead of actually improving the libre derivate distribution, people spend time in fixing freedom bugs from 10 different libre distribution. How is that not duplicate work? Another issue is different non freedom bugs,

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread donh824
The point that I think that is being overlooked, that it is not the number of libre distros but the number of package management systems (debian, arch, gentoo etc) with each having its own following, how would you produce a single distro and keep everyone happy/onboard? at least the current

[Trisquel-users] Re : GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread magicbanana
I perfectly understand you... but I persist: you are wrong. The freedom bugs are usually solved by not including a package, what is pretty easy. Most of the work is about *identifying* the software not respecting the users' freedoms. That can be tricky but this work is mutualized, not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser updated to version 16 on Trisquel Brigantia (5.5)

2012-11-15 Thread tegskywalker
Firefox 15 and above has Opus support (http://opus-codec.org/examples) and native PDF rendering: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/3-hidden-features-in-firefox-15-you-may.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
I have been talking about /main/ libre distribution. Imagine it like Ubuntu, Debian, or Fedora, which have tons of derivatives. I haven't said there should be only one libre distribution. And you are wrong for saying there should not be one superior (main) libre distribution. It is like

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread onpon4
Ah yes, I forgot to list the malware possibility. Thanks! I agree that being able to redistribute exact copies is an important freedom and copyright should be like that by its very nature, but if we're going to say that it's ethically acceptable (even if not preferred) to watch a movie,

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
-_- One True Distribution would by definition fulfill whatever needs.

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU OS

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
Well, there was a libre distro based on Slackware too. Talk about choise! In my opinion it is very good to have libre derivatives of popular distros. Maybe it takes another 5 years of evolution for one libre distro to get enough users and developers to be the leader of free distros, bettering

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread bebetolol
Hey guys! Sorry for taking so long to reply! I'm up to translate the introduction and really soon I'll post here. And that's definitely it, I talked to SirGrant and he said that we should start translating the way you said aliasbody. Let's do it folks, nicely done aliasbody!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread gustavo_cm
Let's remember FSF's High Priority Free Software Projects: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
In my opinion anyone have rights to read any book or watch any movie without paying a penny.

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2012-11-15 Thread Stefano
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2012-11-15 Thread Stefano
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread gustavo_cm
Hey, I'm available to help with pt-br; actually, I prefer pt-pt (more beautiful), but I'm Brazilian and not fluent in the second. How about creating a Translation Team: Portuguese like the ones here: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/translation-teams ? It could serve to manage what aliasbody

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread moilami
Pretty well said. However, Magic Banana have a point too. This game data problem is a huge one. It is ridiculous if you can't improve/reuse graphics, and share the results.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Portuguese translation of the website

2012-11-15 Thread bebetolol
Yeah! I think that's great! Let's do that! (:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Penguin All-in-One New Mouse Pads

2012-11-15 Thread chris
We have a number of keyboards that we ship or would if we ever got around to adding the options/items to our catalog... This is one we ship with the The Home Theater PC Libre Style v3: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/files/wee_photos/IMG_4888.JPG We also have a black wireless keyboard of more

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
That would be great.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Prospects of a GNU/Linux Tablet

2012-11-15 Thread chris
Everybody seems to be justifying non-free software because they want the latest toy. It's not a device that is becoming a necessity in the world in which we live. These are toys and as such I can't accept it. I'm not perfect although I will resist. I'm not going to pick up a tablet until

[Trisquel-users] like in one shoulder wedding dresses

2012-11-15 Thread ndgdgdgdg
Use herbs such as rosemary, cherries, apples. It is a charm. Another option is that you make cheap bridesmaid dresses your arrangements.Save on wedding favors buying souvenirs cheaper, they have to do with the faces of the grooms. Or if you prefer to invest in well-married silver wedding

Re: [Trisquel-users] Getting started; and Tanaris vs Brigantia

2012-11-15 Thread andrew . roffey
And before anyone says that PC game backdoors are just a conspiracy theorist's wet dream, read these first! http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/10/blizzard_entert.html In 2005 Blizzard was found to install spyware on gamers' computers to prevent cheating.