About Jitsi from Trisquel, perhaps we can package it to Guix, so that
people with Trisquel can also test Guix, and an updated Jitsi.
I'm not making promises though, this is just an idea.
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I know Jitsi from the time when I was still at Ubuntu. After reading this
thread, I decided to try it againt, so I went to Add/Remove Applications menu
from Trisquel 7, found Jitsi, and installed it right away... version 2.4.4997
from year 2013.
The network list is: AIM, Facebook, Google
>I agree with you, ps, why the quick necro? It should have been necroed more
than a month later for true fun!
:D
I tried GNU Ring a little while ago. Even though it is still in beta
according to ring.cx, it works fine. Well, it did for me, at least. You
should give it a go if you can.
I never got to say this before, but sweet necro!
"jitsi.meet sounds like a good idea until you realize you need a really fast
connection (optic fibre is recommended)."
My experience testing it (and Palava.tv) is that it definitely doesn't work
without a fast PC, and fast internet. Now that I have some more powerful
hardware, and fibre to
On the subject of Skype, jitsi.meet sounds like a good idea until you realize
you need a really fast connection (optic fibre is recommended). However, some
Skype-Windows users have told me there’s no fluid stream either with
Skype. But it’s Skype, so who would dare to complaint or even
I've been collecting info about libre voice/ video chat software here:
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/core-us
Hmm, too bad Trisquel 7 is not working well on your hardware. I have Debian
Jessie (current stable) installed on a 2004 laptop, Intel GPU, Intel Celeron
1.50 Ghz CPU. Everything works just fine. Maybe give that a try when Trisquel
6 goes unsupported.
cheers
@Geshmy 170301 19:42
“Seems like some daemon that is supposed to set up your Internet connection
isn't starting.”
@Magic Banana 170301 20:54
“I believe the service in question is "networking". ”
Your analysis and solutions often give results – in the theory and the
practice -
I thought it seems to be multiple issues and appears way above my pay grade
although if it was me, I might choose to play around with it till I broke it
completely. Thank God it usually all comes out in the wash with a fresh
install! Heh, heh.
>Sorry to hear the Trisquel 6 to 7 upgrade didn't work so well. Me, I would
either start over by reinstalling the good working Trisquel 6, or burn a
Trisquel 7 'mini' install to a dvd and try installing from that directly.
Yeah, that is exactly what I recommended to the OP in the Spanish
Sorry to hear the Trisquel 6 to 7 upgrade didn't work so well. Me, I would
either start over by reinstalling the good working Trisquel 6, or burn a
Trisquel 7 'mini' install to a dvd and try installing from that directly.
But
You might try this regarding Internet connection
(you can do
This is the answer to the command:
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# ifconfig -a
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet direcciónHW 00:e0:4c:d7:86:d5
ACTIVO DIFUSIÓN MULTICAST MTU:1500 Métrica:1
Paquetes RX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0 overruns:0 frame:0
Paquetes TX:0 errores:0 perdidos:0
@hack and hack
"What I would try is to test the live CD/USB you used to install. I mean
maybe you didn't check, and it's corrupted."
Believe me, what you advised is what I always do in the first place with any
distro.
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@Mappack
"How do you connect to the internet? (like with
> I would like to know what I did or what I'm doing wrong to Trisquel
> 7.0 i-386 does not connect with the Internet in addition to submit
> two other minor problems:
>
> [...]
>
> a. There is no way to connect to the Internet: Using Net Tool there
> was no way to obtain a response with the
How do you connect to the internet? (like with Wi-Fi or a cable or something)
If you can get any internet connection working in some way, try installing
Linux-Libre with the instructions provided here.
I've never ever performed a GNU/Linux system upgrade.
What I would try is to test the live CD/USB you used to install. I mean maybe
you didn't check, and it's corrupted.
Else, maybe it's just a matter of upgrading something (the system or even the
kernel). Hopefully.
That's all I've got :/
Kind forum members of Trisquel:
I would like to know what I did or what I'm doing wrong to Trisquel 7.0 i-386
does not connect with the Internet in addition to submit two other minor
problems:
1. I had installed Trisquel 6.0 on par of a Winbugs XP. With Trisquel there
were no obstacles
Well, sure, one would need to be extremely stupid or a plain lunatic to trust
sourceless binaries. I have used it as an example for a long time now for I
like it as I think it illustrates properly the situation of proprietary
software (in)security: trusting any piece of proprietary software
"But the software and the licenses are basically the same."
That was my point.
Libre software is so much better though.
Security and privacy wise. That is why I choose free software over crappy
proprietary software and even open source software.
Yes you have a good point, I guess I was saying when it was under google's
control you could use it through free software more safely and securely, but
I was mostly wrong, to think that.
I say mostly, because microsoft probably is/and has made such a product ten
times worse.
Given
I think the problem I might have with parabola is that it is a rolling
release and it'd be a bit scary for me to use on my new computer and
accidentally break it.
I unfortunately was not able to get a pre installed computer, but I created a
topic a little while back called New computer
My advice would be
1. Definitely go preinstalled,way less hassle because everything "just works"
2. Avoid dual booting if at all possible, or have windows on a completely
separate machine from your gnu/linux one.
3. Definitely run a FSF recommended distro or at worst, Debian. Why? Because
Sure Adony we could share some observations
Excellent list.
Hi and welcome!
I'm a free/libre software activist from Brazil (since the end of 2015)
and a student of the movement since high school days (from 2012).
I'm currently alos studying to get a bachelor's degree on organization
management (also known as: busniess administration/management).
Perhaps
Thanks Magic
Hi guys, sorry I haven't been posting on here, final exams for college, you
know how it is lol. I'll provide some updates now
1. My friend (who I mentioned a few days earlier) is not interested in
changing from skype to a free software, I wish I could convince her.
2. The Toshiba laptop I
Here is an interesting list...have to check to see if they are Libre as well.
https://alternativeto.net/software/skype/?license=opensource
>Because open source is not as good as free software. They share a few
similarities but not enough of the critical ones are shared.
They don't share a "few similarities", you are talking about the same exact
software, only another naming, and behind the naming two opposite (because
they
Well, Nickman, I see your point, but skype is entirely proprietary - to "kick
off of skype all the proprietary software" means erase skype. Skype was
always proprietary.
What I meant is being open source is better than being proprietary, but yes
when I read your post, I have to agree
with you, neither one is good. Free software is the best case scenario.
Although, Google as much as I dislike some
of their stances, you can at least reverse engineer their
waw I didn't know that were caddys for ssd trough the cd/DVD rom. Now I
know!! Many thanks. I definitely will need one of those...
I guess that is what is free information, free world, free society.
Thanks a lot, again.
I'm sorry SuperTramp it was late when I posted that so I wasn't really
thinking about what I was saying.
What I meant to say is that if skype were it's own thing and all the
proprietary software was kicked off of skype and replaced with free software
that would be better.
Agreed Calm, if skype was it's own thing instead of being owed for one of
those two companies it would be great, open source would be even better :)
I absolutely disagree with your statement. It makes absolutely no difference
at all who owns a particular **proprietary** software. It makes it
Agreed Calm, if skype was it's own thing instead of being owed for one of
those two companies it would be great, open source would be even better :)
Skype was better off in googles hands than microsoft's...
Oh my god, did I just say that?
wow...
Imagine that.
That is truly frightening. To think that anything can be more terrifying than
google. :(
welcome!
Thanks Calm, I hope to see more people putting their thoughts in as well.
Welcome here!
Virtualbox was free software when Trisquel 6.0 was new and shiny but is not
available on Trisquel 7.0 for good reasons.
Dual booting is a much bigger hassle than using a virtual machine. You can
try Gnome Boxes or just the lazy man's command line route:
[quote]qemu-img
Onpon are you referring to Ring? I actually did not realize that
Huang thank you for the kind words, I've been considering dual booting and
using trisquel for a semester in college (which lasts approximately 5 months)
then reviewing trisquel after and deciding on whether to cut the cord on
Nickman, first you should be commended for your interest in Free/Libre
software and the willingness to place that interest on the table so to speak
by actually using a distro that is committed to those freedoms. 8)
As already mentioned, virtualization is a great option, although some people
I'm about to go into my 2nd year of college, I'm want to work on a cruise
ship after I'm done
As far as I understand, Skype's proprietary protocol has not been
reverse-engineered, so it is not possible to chat through that network
without Skype. You'll have to use an alternative network (e.g. XMPP).
Just flash drives. Actually, any flash media (also including SD cards, for
example, and even to a lesser extent most SSDs). What Magic Banana refers to
is that any given bit on flash media can only be changed so much before it
becomes useless, so writing to flash media effectively brings it
Ah okay, I never knew that onpon about constant writing making a flash drive
useless, I'm aware that it does have limits, which is why I won't consider
exploring that option further
I'll get in touch with him about that, I want to get a part time job as well
(which hopefully does not spread me too thin) to help pay for college
;)
I know a few people that work on cruise ships (Disney and Norwegian) and they
like it alot.
What ever distro you decide to use (nod towards Trisquel), perhaps you could
volunteer some time with Business Admin. tasks as well. I'm sure Ruben would
appreciate it.
Thanks for clarifying Magic, would a external hard drive be killed if I did
that or just flash drives? Flash drives are now off the table, it's either
dual boot, vm, external hard drive or pre installed
Parabola is nice, just keep in mind that rolling release requires attention
and care with regards to updatesalways read the changelog on website
(latest news section) first or you will be bitten sooner or later. I've been
there and done that, bleeding edge is fun but as you get older
> Onpon are you referring to Ring?
No, XMPP is an IM protocol that Pidgin, Jitsi, and several others support,
but not Ring. Ring is another perfectly valid option, though (I haven't tried
it).
Right, when you reach that limit, the device can't be used anymore, or at
least can't be written to anymore. That's what I was referring to.
Thanks for the welcome SuperTramp and Heather, I'll be thinking about all
these suggestions, any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I actually have a USB flash drive that I got from my college. Would I put the
files for trisquel onto the USB and then boot it up from the usb onto my
parents laptop or would it work differently than if I created a USB
installer?
I also have an old Toshiba laptop which I will put the specs
Hello everyone I'm Nickman but you guys can call me Nick, this is my first
post on the forum
I had heard of the FSF and free software and the first distro I was
considering downloading was Linux Mint, followed by JULinux.
I've looked into all the distros on the FSF site and I think
I wouldn't dual boot if possible, but if you need it, I would recommend
running windows if you have to... through
virtual machines... if at all... not sure if virtualbox is still nonfree at
this point, but it is better to use
nonfree software like virtualbox through firetools (a sandboxing
I think you both can use ring:
https://ring.cx/
Part of GNU and available under multiple plataforms :) also respects your
privacy and your freedom it is so much better than skype.
You can install trisquel on a USB, dowload this: https://rufus.akeo.ie/ (is
for windows) and use it to
HungLao: which application is that? Let us try finding a decent alternative.
Don't worry too much if you dual boot for school because you have to.
Right now the important thing is for you to learn. And try to do as much as
you can on Trisquel.
You will find that you can do almost everything from it.
Also promote to others Free Softwore and teach them about why it is
Thanks Alberto, I'm a big gamer, the reason I want to get a laptop as opposed
to installing trisquel right now is because my parents use a lot of the
computers I use and I wouldn't want to screw up what they do on the web. I'm
thinking about installing it on a usb however, how would that
Also I have a question about Skype, does anyone on here contribute to Pidgin
specifically working on a plugin for Skype? I talk to a friend of mine on
Skype everyday, I'm not sure if Jitsi is reliable.
Ah okay, thanks for clarifying
Hello antarta, as far free software games go, there is Nexuiz (it's somewhat
of a UT clone). I like to play it from time to time, if you want to join me,
you should be able to see my personal email, feel free to use it.
Also there is this 2D MMORPG called Mana, I just recently started
Thanks everybody for welcoming me warmly. I really appreciate it. I can
assure you that it is my goal to contribute to the community of trisquel as
much as I can. Free software must be adopted by everyone. It's the future.
It's good for everyone.
Hi everyone ! I've been introduced to the philosophy of the FSF a long time
ago and it was stuck in a corner of my head and I've been thinking about it,
a lot. Recently, I realized that I had to free my computing, but there are
some things that I haven't clarified.
1. What's up with 3D
1. You need an older video card with an NVIDIA graphics chipset or Intel
graphics. Not all games for GNU/Linux will work although many of the older
titles will. The 9500GT is a good choice for graphics.
http://libre.thinkpenguin.com/ - 25% of the profits from sales go to
Trisquel.
1) 0 A.D. and Xonotic are high quallity
2) Honestly, this would suck with free software only.
3) Blender can do wonders.
4) There are no limits: As long as you have gcc you can do anything. As a
programmer you can check out FSF high priority project list (
Regarding games, there aren't a huge amount, but some great ones are Xonotic,
MegaGlest, OpenArena, SuperTuxKart, Warzone 2100, Torus Trooper, Tremulous,
Minetest, Red Eclipse, and Ryzom.
Some great non-3D games are many of the games by Kenta Cho (my favorites are
Torus Trooper and Tumiki
Jump in and try to do what ever you want to do. Welcome to freedom!
Well that's my intention :)
It always warms my heart to see another person converted to freedom. Welcome
to Trisquel!
Ditto on the heart-warming, Armworm. I finally joined the forum, but have
been reading a while... lurking? :) I'm not a gamer, but wanted to say hello,
antarta. It's a pleasure to read words of wisdom on a subject near and dear
to my heart... Freedom!
l208...@rtrtr.com
Congratulations for using a GNUoperating system with linux-libre distro.
It protects your freedom by including and recommending only software
that respects it.
Adobe's Flash Player is free as in price but not free as in freedom.
Ubuntu has both free and non free software.
Please explain, I thought it was free as in free-speech, which means I'm
allowed to talk about the software, I'm allowed to talk about Flash. And why
do you say he can't recommend non-free? That's against free-speech, but now
you say as in freedom, i dont understand please explain, please!
What we're talking about is Free Software, or software that respects
essential freedoms that the user of software should always have. All software
in Trisquel's repositories respect these four freedoms.
These freedoms are:
- The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
- The
But you miss some freedoms =o, such as:
-The freedom to distribute however you want(freedom4)
-The freedom to sue people using your software(freedom5)
those are the ones big companies like apple have with their software, please,
I don't understand? FREE=0 PRICE OR DOES IT MEAN FREE=4
tux, the think free speech not free beer statement is made for those
that confuse the free in free software with being zero price, a confusion
that you yourself seem to have made from the beginning. It's an analogy only.
Why don't we recommend or provide information about how to install
I'm sad, what if I make a software free, then someone who i don't like uses
it I can't sue them :,(, that's what big corparation does, why does we not
have the freedom to do that? =,'(
I am not.
I'm just saying that if he doesn't want to stick to freedom, what's the point
of using Trisquel?
Freedom refers to your control of your life, not to control of
activities of other people (unless they restrict your freedom).
Others can dislike other activities than you, there is a longer essay
against such restrictions
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/programs-must-not-limit-freedom.html
(there
El 03/09/12 10:41, l208...@rtrtr.com escribió:
Please explain, I thought it was free as in free-speech, which means
I'm allowed to talk about the software, I'm allowed to talk about
Flash. And why do you say he can't recommend non-free? That's against
free-speech, but now you say as in
El 03/09/12 10:53, tegskywal...@hotmail.com escribió:
Are you purposely trying to scare away a person who may contribute
money back to the project down the road?
No, I am trying to scare you from making users lose their freedom. The
fact that he puts money or not is secondary. His freedom
El 03/09/12 10:53, l208...@rtrtr.com escribió:
But you miss some freedoms =o, such as:
-The freedom to distribute however you want(freedom4)
You have that freedom but if it not free software the way you
distribute, you are taking away someone else's freedom.
-The freedom to sue people
If you are developing software and releasing it to people, I suggest going
for Apache 2.0 or a BSD license (2 or 3 clause) to get the broadest appeal.
The BSD licenses are the most lax and Apache 2.0 has some patent protection
written into it.
The problem with using these non-copyleft
El 03/09/12 11:13, l208...@rtrtr.com escribió:
I'm sad, what if I make a software free, then someone who i don't like
uses it I can't sue them :,(, that's what big corparation does, why
does we not have the freedom to do that? =,'(
If you use the AGPL or GPL then you can sue them and and
El 03/09/12 11:33, tegskywal...@hotmail.com escribió:
Realistically though if you have an amazing, world changing piece of
software that you want to get out there, there is one method. You can
release the libraries and core application under a BSD or Apache
license and then make additional or
I like Apples, but not Apple Inc., I like my window, but not MS Windows, I
like freedom, but not Freedom Co., I like poop.
The thought is about monetizing free software. In the traditional sense, free
software relies on donations, a big company willing to give their code away
for free, or creating custom software for a company. That is totally
understood.
With having your libraries and core software as free
El 03/09/12 12:23, tegskywal...@hotmail.com escribió:
The thought is about monetizing free software. In the traditional
sense, free software relies on donations, a big company willing to
give their code away for free, or creating custom software for a
company. That is totally understood.
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