Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-18 Thread svanleent
There is the FSFE (Free Software Foundation Europe.) But the problem of free software is similary to the problems my political party in the Netherlands (Socialist Party) is exposed to. People have all kinds of misunderstandings. Even trying to get rid of misunderstandings in the office

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
I know that xD But the concept of this wonderful piece of software is to run Microsoft Windows applications on it, and this is why I mostly don't use it (yes I'm a little bit radical I know)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
I totally agree with this, it is almost the same problem for a different thing, but once again, the best we can do (as human beings respectful of others life) is to don't push them as we don't wanted them to push us. And this is where the big problem is. If you want to accept your idea and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-18 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Ras PI needs propriety software for the GPU just to boot! No good for free software subscribers. Rhombus Tech is superior! http://rhombus-tech.net/ On 18/09/12 01:57, aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: It's very kind of you but I can't accept that, it goes against my way of life (if I can say this

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-18 Thread aliasbody
I know but I was hopping to use it only in server mode :S One more dream broken xD I will see Rhombus Tech (never heard of it).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-18 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Do check out the mailing list. There is a lot of info on the site if you look carefully. On 19/09/12 00:54, aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: I know but I was hopping to use it only in server mode :S One more dream broken xD I will see Rhombus Tech (never heard of it).

[Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Hello Everyone, To start I just wanted to say a big Thank You for all that Trisquel and the Free Software Community archived in the years that passed. I remember that it was thanks to Ubuntu that I switched from Windows to Gnu/Linux, and now it was thanks to Trisquel Gnu/Linux that I've

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread moilami
Thank you very much of your posting. It was interesting to read. In engineering education I had similar problems what you have. There was only one person besides me in my class who used GNU/Linux. The teachers were not hostile toward Free Software though, and I managed to almost finish the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Hello moilami, To start, thanks a lot for you fast answering :D That really helped me a lot to see a different point a view from an Engineering Student. I managed to not use anything than Free Software (except for JavaFX in the first year not very happy with that but what can I do...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
It is a shame that your program / school / professors are not troubled by this. If they won't accommodate there are other issues with the program that should get them to change the requirements. There is a difference between a tech school and a college level program. In a tech school you

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 17:24:54 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Everyone, To start I just wanted to say a big Thank You for all that Trisquel and the Free Software Community archived in the years that passed. I remember that it was thanks to Ubuntu that I switched from

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread icarolongo
Is very difficulty to use only free software in others places, but the mostly of times is possible. The mostly of professors recommend many non-free software and the mostly students without critic sense use it. My cousin started the last month in civil engineering course and have the same

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for you reply :D I totally agree with you in that point ! Those schools/universities exist to learn us how to Program and how to use in a clever way all the technologies that we have in our hands, and not to learn a specific technology that will block our views and our way of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Merci pour la réponse :D Tous les commentaires sont réellement très appréciés. Je vais donc te réponde en Français. Je n'ai pas d'autres solutions :S Et c'est bien ça mon plus grand problème. L’université la plus proche de moi est sur Lisbonne, et moi qui vie dans les alentours (Barreiro

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for the Reply :D I agree with you, there is a lot of Free Software but not for every usage sadly, and even if I manage to finish my course without using proprietary software (at least on my personal machine... that one will never happen again !), it will be hard to find a job that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
ahahah xD Nice advices indeed :D You are right, I need to take this unique opportunity :D Thanks a lot for all the advices ^_^

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:04:28 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: Erasmus ?... I never taught of that... I mean I already heard of this, but I didn't knew that this could be in my advantage... I really need to see this :D (even knowing that we mustn't let any course behind (too late

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
The last time I saw it, it was only 3 months :S... But I will confirm that in the beginning of the year. If I am very lucky, and if I work hard I could do Erasmus this year and going to Japan in the next Year (ok maybe I am see something too far for what I can archive but dreaming is not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:36:17 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: Merci pour la réponse :D Tous les commentaires sont réellement très appréciés. Je vais donc te réponde en Français. Je n'ai pas d'autres solutions :S No, no if you want you can speak in english, i understand, but i have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:27:42 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: The last time I saw it, it was only 3 months :S... But I will confirm that in the beginning of the year. If I am very lucky, and if I work hard I could do Erasmus this year and going to Japan in the next Year (ok

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
How sorry then xD Even if talking in English when reading some text in another language that I understand can be a little bit weird for my brain but that's not the point here :D. Yes, Gnu/Linux zs Sorry, I've taught myself over the years to say Linux instead of Gnu/Linux in order to make

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Didn't knew about that :S... I really need to inform myself about that quickly then.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread andrew
IIRC Mono uses libwine to provide a .Net Winforms API. Wine also provides a DirectX 9 replacement. That is AIUI how some of the proprietary virtualization solutions provide virtual 3D graphics (they hack the Wine source to work with a proprietary interface provided by the virtual machine

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Hi Thanks for the reply :D I didn't saw the problem from that kind of view... I think that I will send an email for the professors of the courses that force us to use those technologies (or other that I can't remember), to make a change if possible. PS : I think that the big problem will

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
They are teaching students to use what the market uses, and this for one reason... because it is what students use xD No more no less. School has to do this work. I'm happy to discovered the system GNU like Trisquel and others, but i'm disapointed to discover so late.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
They are teaching students to use what the market uses, and this for one reason... because it is what students use xD No more no less. School has to do this work. I'm happy to discovered the system GNU like Trisquel and others, but i'm disapointed to discover so late.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread moritz
I was very shocked and angry when reading how narrow mined your school seems to be. Maybe things are different in France but I suspect you just had exceptional bad luck with the school you've ended up with. I'm in Germany (more precisely, at the KIT) and after the second semester they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread svanleent
When I was reading the original post and replies, it only strengthens me in my believe that no only you are struggling with the problems proprietary software brings along, but it also appears that you are caught by modern politics. It appears to me that your university, similar to other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Totally agree, if it wasn't our own initiative we would have never discovered such great distributions like this one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread Michał Masłowski
The real trouble started with Java, but mostly JavaFX, the final project was in JavaFX so I had to use JavaFX SDK with OpenJDK in order to make it work (but Oracle now don't have them separate, instead of that it is necessary to install Oracle JavaSDK 7 to have access to JavaFX and that is a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread Morne Alberts
I quite like the following two online teaching websites: Udacity: http://www.udacity.com/ Coursera: https://www.coursera.org/ They've got many university-level courses spanning various disciplines. It also does not cost anything to participate: no enrolment fees and no need for external study

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread gymnarchusniloticus
I am a control engineering student in Brazil and have a similar problem. I don't know anybody in my course (save some professors from the computing department, not engineering) that uses free software or free OS's here. I have a course that demands to learn AutoCAD. When I did that I used

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
To start, thanks a lot for you reply, every idea, suggestion, and support is very welcome for me right know :D I never went to Germany but I've learn a few words in France (not enough to have a simple conversation which is bad, I really regret the fact that I didn't take the opportunity to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread Stefano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:56:38 +0200 Morne Alberts mo...@malberts.net wrote: I quite like the following two online teaching websites: Udacity: http://www.udacity.com/ Coursera: https://www.coursera.org/ Hi, those website have a lot of useful

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for the reply :D Like I said in the last reply, my university (like many others in Europe, and all around the world), are only around the idea of getting a job, and they don't teach us any more how to program (or anything else), but how to use the tool that we will mostly use when

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for you reply :D Parabola has OpenJDK7 but no JavaFX. JavaFX was shipped as a separate package, but now it is integrated with Oracle Java JDK7 only, not with OpenJDK7 (at least for now). At least for C# we have Mono and Monodevelop as alternative.. not the best but at least it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for the Reply :D I really want to thank you for telling me that there is a good Alternative to MatLab :D I will need to use it the next year and haven't find a good alternative until now (mainly because I never used MatLab at all). As for a Circuit Simulation alternative, I was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I will have a look at those :D Thanks !

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I've already seen that plugin to Eclipse somewhere but I don't remember where... I really need to give it a better look before the class begin :D Thanks for the help ^_^

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread moilami
There is GNU Octave, Scilab, and Sage which you can use to replace Matlab. With Scilab you can even try to replace Matlab's Simulink. You wont be able to do everything with Scilab what you can do with Simuling, but I am quite sure you can do with Scilab assignments required in the course.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
Stuff school. Stupid institution to zombieafly imhumans to do what there are told. Home Education! If they are still teaching trash/flash they really are obsolete. I've been to private then state schools. In the UK. I am not leaning about engineering. Left school at the end of year 8. I am now

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I have the freedom... But not everywhere, and that is the problem. The only place where I have that freedom is at home and on my laptop, and even those 2 are getting in danger... In Portugal we have to do our IRS (taxes) by using a software, that is, available for Linux, but no Free (as in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
Take advantage of your hirer education to learn what you want to learn regardless of what is being taught. Your “education” and grades be dammed. It is unlikely it'll matter later on anyway. At least if you have the initiative to go your own way. The fact that you've switched to GNU/Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for the reply :D In my school teachers let the students work with others and see their code, but they do 2 things : 1 - They have a software that looks for all the projects to see if there is a Plagiarism, or better, if anyone just made any copy-paste. 2 - They will ask

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
If there is no such group (hard to believe) start one. Take a look at the Latin America Group as an example: http://www.fsfla.org You don't need to hold regular meetings. Just setup a group with a mailing list and/or forum. Then start contacting whatever groups and organizations are

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
If I'm not mistaken Microsoft is abandoning .net and Mono is no more. Novell laid off the developer(s) that were working on it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread slasha3
Similar story at many other universities. I currently go to university and I'm studying IT. The programming course which I'm doing does C# development. I have been using Mono, which is okay because it is entirely Free Software (but it could be a patent trap for anyone who implements or

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I don't know if they isn't any, I just know that RMS talked about them on the response email but I didn't find them anywhere :S... But thank you for the suggestion maybe I should start directly with something in my school to start to appeal people showing them the benefits of using Free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
Can you take it to someone else and have them submit it for you? I would also recommend complaining. Write to the government or electors about this issue. Write to the computer groups. If you create a group / web site there will likely be others who follow your lead. If you need financial

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I will be honest with you, I never paid for any software.. I always used the services of our Sweden friend (thepiratebay). The only software that received my money (the little amount of money that I have as a student without a job), are : - Humble Indie Bundle (1cent + 1cent + 37cents) -

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
Can you take it to someone else and have them submit it for you? I would also recommend complaining. Write to the government or electors about this issue. This isn't true. Businesses use a variety of tools. While the majority of jobs in many fields require the use of Microsoft Windows and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
It's very kind of you but I can't accept that, it goes against my way of life (if I can say this like that), but once again thank you a lot for the suggestion, really ! I will buy a raspberry pie and will use it as server for a website like this (and my others personal website needs), and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I am not applying for any job for know since I am still studying and it uses almost all of my time. But I am scared because of the future just that, that's why I start looking at it now, even knowing that everything can happen from one day to another.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for you reply :D The only solution I see is to have an external financial support (by finding a job that is in accord with what I believe, or even just make some Free Software and sell it for example, or ask for donation like most of the software out there), and then make my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Things like this make me want to create my own enterprise that works around Free Software (which is not a really bad idea when I think about it...).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
I didn't know that there were so many issues in Portugal. You guys REALLY need a free software advocacy organization. I'm not sure your position on taking money for a cause although I think you may have misunderstood me. The point was to help you pay the expenses of running such an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
I understood you correctly xD I wasn't thinking about any profit at all, but I have real problems accepting anything for other (mostly money), and if it isn't for me at all, because I have a fear of failing (I'm being honest). But I will not discard the idea of the organization, but I want

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread slasha3
At the end of each semester students are able to provide feedback to the university. I will most certainly provide some feedback then! Unfortunately the university has links to Cisco and Microsoft and so I doubt that they would change their stance without major opposition from students. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
If you allow me I will tell you a funny story that happen to me when I was in France... When I was young I was in a school (in the 78 department for those who know), that had old computers running Windows 95 (and we where in 2006). So I started an action (I was very young at that time xD I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread slasha3
Wow, that's a GREAT story with a bad ending. :( It shows that Microsoft doesn't mind giving things if it means locking people in for the long term.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread chris
Don't ask questions you don't know the answers to. You won't like the response and it'll have no benefits. Ask questions that make them uncomfortable about the relationships instead. Phrase questions such that the response puts the universities in a low light. What I mean by that is they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread slasha3
Thanks for the advice Chris. That's definitely a good point about teaching concepts. I'll speak to a few of my lecturers and see if I get somewhere. I can't say I'm expecting great results, but at least if I can make a good point it could make people think about it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
For instance why does the university promote relationships which are against the students academic interests? ie Cisco, Microsoft, Adobe, etc? These companies stifle learning and lock students into tools. Universities should be teaching concepts. Not tools. Totally agree with you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 04:08:18 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: If you allow me I will tell you a funny story that happen to me when I was in France... When I was young I was in a school (in the 78 department for those who know), that had old computers running Windows 95 (and we

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:07:23 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: Things like this make me want to create my own enterprise that works around Free Software (which is not a really bad idea when I think about it...). Some company work with free software. Look at the partnair of fsf. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 01:43:33 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: I have the freedom... But not everywhere, and that is the problem. The only place where I have that freedom is at home and on my laptop, and even those 2 are getting in danger... In Portugal we have to do our IRS

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread pas...@diogoantunes.org
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:37:05 +0200 (CEST) aliasb...@gmail.com wrote: I understood you correctly xD I wasn't thinking about any profit at all, but I have real problems accepting anything for other (mostly money), and if it isn't for me at all, because I have a fear of failing (I'm being

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
The problem is that it is a stupid circle around the idea that, inside the school, they teach you that outside everyone use proprietary software (mostly Microsoft software), and because of that you need to do it to, and outside they told you that you have to use them because it was what they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread tegskywalker
aliasbody - You are benefiting from having these at your fingertips: - Options to use free/open software on top of open hardware like ThinkPenguin - Choice in programming languages that are open and well documented - Ways to learn those programming languages without setting foot in school - Run

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Ok :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Just a question for all Free Software Users from a Student

2012-09-17 Thread aliasbody
Thanks for you reply :D This is already what I have done, I never give any project or any file (since the beginning of the University) in a close format and I'm really waiting for this to make a difference, even little. As for the rest, I totally agree with you, I have all the tools I