Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-30 Thread dhfubq3oq
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-29 Thread nux
http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/71122.html Interesting blog about how SELinux, if enforced, would protect data from being read and files written to as a result of the current BASH exploit.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-27 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Wikipedia is your friend here. Read about SELinux, MACs (mandatory access controls), DACs (discretionary access controls), Apparmor and other implementations. Basically it's a system to try and limit the capabilities of users and programs to the smallest subset they need. These things

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-26 Thread golyn
Hi guys, Regarding Self-Defense, I've just found out about SElinux. Can anyone explain me what is it about? how it works? and how it helps to enforce security on a GNU/linux system? What are the main pros cons? Does it worth configuring my GNU/linux with SElinux? Furthermore, Has anyone

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-26 Thread Andrew Lindley
Trisquel uses AppArmor which is an easier to configure alternative to SELinux. E.g. last time I looked in Toutatis the supplied Samba and CUPS are running under AppArmor profiles to help protect against zero day attacks. I suggest you learn this instead (Search the web).

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-26 Thread nux
SELinux was developed by the NSA and as such attracts some suspicion. However, it was open sourced and released under the GPL in the year 2000. It can be a major PITA. For example, if you're going to install a parallel distro/OS then disable SELinux first or the next time you try to boot it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-22 Thread gnuser
You know, google is not your friend... but duckduckgo and startpage are! http://www.kali.org/ http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ Read the documentation and you will find most software is actually in the reps. You can install in trisquel and use it. Same goes for TAILS, you don't need to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-22 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Let's not link non-free stuff, mmk?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-22 Thread blade . vp2020
btw , we CAN Rebuilding a Tails image https://tails.boum.org/contribute/build/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-22 Thread gnuser
As you can read in one comment I made above, I was only suggesting to read the documentation, in order to use the FREE SOFTWARE that is used in those distros. Most of it you can get in the reps. I also told NOT to use the distros because they are non-free. So, it's not like I am linking to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-20 Thread gustavo_cm
Any other ideas on how to learn self-defense? Hm... • EFF website: https://www.eff.org/ , specially https://www.eff.org/issues/privacy and EFF's Surveillance Self-Defense project: https://ssd.eff.org/ The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has created this Surveillance Self-Defense

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-10 Thread golyn
Hi guys. I'm back... I've red all your posts and at first I was really surprise specially after reading... http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=624 from salparadise and viewing the links that lembas provided. As for the TAILS conversation, it is not very clear to me wheather it is safe to use

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-04 Thread gnuser
Well, I think we scared Lep away :P Maybe we diverted from the original thread subject. I think one good place for you to start would be reading the documentation on BackTrack Linux. I am not suggesting you use the distro (which is probably non-free) but just read the documentation, they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-04 Thread gnuser
These are unknown waters for me. One question: if a device (keyboard or wifi card or webcam) has software (firmware) written inside of it to be able to work, but that firmware doesn't talk to the OS (only the driver makes the connection between computer and device, OS and device) then we

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-03 Thread anthonypineiro
Thanks for sharing this info on BadUSB jxself. Is there a site you'd recommend to learn more about this BadUSB? Thanks

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-03 Thread Andrew Roffey
gnuser wrote: I would say that a keyboard's firmware could be dangerous (maybe logging your keystrokes and sending it somewhere over the internet) but is it true for any firmware? Or is a matter simply of freedom, not so much of security? Also, Intel's proprietary Wi-Fi firmware stops a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-03 Thread Andrew Roffey
Also, Intel's proprietary Wi-Fi firmware stops a user from being able to change their MAC address Er, maybe driver actually, I'm not too sure. The GNU/Linux drivers for Intel Wi-Fi cards are apparently free but the firmware is not: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi The quote from Intel that it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-09-01 Thread jason
You should go read up on BadUSB to find some answers to those very questions. :) A USB drive, for instance, will take on the ability to act as a keyboard that surreptitiously types malicious commands into attached computers. What might those commands be and how might they affect your

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-31 Thread gnuser
Ok, so, TAILS doesn't ships non-free/closed-source drivers, but it has non-free/closed-source firmware, is that correct? From a freedom perspective that's bad, but from a security one, is that dangerous, as in, can a firmware affect the users privacy somehow? I would say that a keyboard's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-31 Thread gnuser
I think we should give Snowden a break here... Just as we understand when a guy has to use non-free software at work to keep his job (no matter the work at a factory speech), we could argue that Snowden had to use a distro not endorsed by the FSF to save his life. I mean, sure he could have

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-31 Thread gnuser
Sorry for a dumb question, but what means NFG?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-31 Thread 555
No eFfin' Good

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-31 Thread legimet . calc
A keyboard doesn't have firmware loaded by a Linux driver. If it has any, it's probably stored on the device itself. Firmware loaded by the Linux kernel is mostly for wifi and graphics (radeon) but also for some ethernet cards. Since Tails uses the Debian kernel, all the blobs are external

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread debianlinux
That's was my reaction at first glange, but, if there are not proprietary drivers very few people are able to use it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread shiretoko
The goal was to create a trustworthy, privacy respecting gnu-linux distribution. Without proprietary blobs, few people would have been able to use it, no doubt about that. With proprietary blobs, _no one_ is able to use it, since privacy is completely terminated. I can't believe that they

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread debianlinux
Snowden used tails and talk about tails

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread gnuser
I remember reading in the FSF webpage that between Linux distros and BSD distros there is a difference in the way they use the word blob. Could it be the case here, as in, they don't use proprietary drivers per se, but use some kind of firmware (I mean as in accessing some closed software

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread shiretoko
So what? Sure a lot of people talk about it and use it. Don't get me wrong, I really respect what he did for society. It was a great contribution! But I've seen several interviews with him, and did he mention free software even once? No, he didn't. He talked about all kind of things and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread 555
My mistake (did not read it carefully). You are correct.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread legimet . calc
They include non free firmware. Firmware is run on the peripheral itself, unlike a driver. Most firmware, except a few, has no source available and is non free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread debianlinux
If you don't care, lot of people care about what he has to says about security the fact are there, he didn't use trisquel nor windows...he might not be an advocate of free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread davesamcdxv
The BSD community's (I guess) view is that since the firmware blobs run on the devices (rather than the computer itself) it doesn't matter. The FSF's is that since it's present on editable storage medias (e.g the HDD), it matters.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-30 Thread debianlinux
quantumgraviry, thinking about, you're right, without free soft i don't think could be security, and Snowden miss a great opportunity like you said. my first glance was the good one.

[Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread golyn
Hi guys, Recently I've been really aware of all the risks in privacy (thus, in freedom) one is exposed in todays digital world. Inmediately I thought, There should be a way I can defense myself against these kind of things? and then I found out about ethical hacking for security assesment.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread onpon4
You don't need to be a hacker to defend yourself from surveillance. You just need to change some of your practices. For protecting your anonymity when browsing the Web, the best tool is Tor, and the easiest way to get that working properly is to use the Tor Browser Bundle. To use Tor with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Hey lep! I think that's a very worthy goal. Here's a new nuggets to think about On browser hygiene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evercookie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_fingerprint On hardware backdoors https://www.blackhat.com/html/bh-us-12/bh-us-12-archives.html#Brossard

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread jason
TAILS is a non-free distro. Binary blobs for example which seems odd given the nature of the distro. Please don't recommend non-free distros here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread daniele_argento
There is tails. It's a live distro used by Edward Snowden. I installed it in a USB key, you can bring it with you and use it on every computer you want (if it has the USB option on boot) https://tails.boum.org/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread nux
http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=624

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread adel . afzal
proprietary software in a security-oriented distribution ... how bizarre

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread gnuser
I'm sorry, but I believe that must not be correct. According to https://tails.boum.org/doc/about/license/index.en.html all their software is free software, and IIRC they even got rid of TrueCrypt some time ago (because of the issues with it). Also, since this is based on Debian main distro, I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread Andrew Roffey
gnuser wrote: I'm sorry, but I believe that must not be correct. According to https://tails.boum.org/doc/about/license/index.en.html all their software is free software, and IIRC they even got rid of TrueCrypt some time ago (because of the issues with it). Also, since this is based on

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread 555
read the response to comment 7: https://tails.boum.org/forum/GNU_Award_for_Projects_of_Social_Benefit/ Interesting that TAILS won an FSF award despite the fact that it includes proprietary firmware - i.e., it's not free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread jason
Precisely - Too many apply the logic that 'It is a variant of the Debian GNU/Linux distro so it *must* be equally free.' This is not a good place to start from and results in people reaching the wrong conclusion.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread blancorasa riseup
On Sat, 2014-08-30 at 03:35 +0200, 5...@verizon.net wrote: read the response to comment 7: https://tails.boum.org/forum/GNU_Award_for_Projects_of_Social_Benefit/ Interesting that TAILS won an FSF award despite the fact that it includes proprietary firmware - i.e., it's not free. Correct

Re: [Trisquel-users] Learning self-defense

2014-08-29 Thread mikko . viinamaki
No it didn't win. And in fact the forum thread says that Tails does ship with proprietary firmwares.