Now it's high fructose corn syrup instead of sugar. I wonder if they tweaked
the formula when they switched?
Honestly, having switched to Debian recently, the only problem I've had is
not being able to get SimpleScreenRecorderor OBS to work (their compile
instructions didn't work for me).
Thanks for the info.
>> the Mint project develops a lot of software that never gets sent upstream,
so it is effectively Mint-exclusive, which means Mint users who are used to
this software will have a harder time migrating to another distro. > Two,
Mint doesn't even provide a mechanism to
You lot have the Lens spyware to thank for getting me as a Trisquel user (now
you know who to complain to ;)
>> That OS **is** a spyware, the thing is turned on by default.
FAQs are common, dispelling myths not so much.
>sudo doesn't work by default in debian
again, nope. Sudo works perfectly fine in Debian.
>wifi was glitchy
Not here.
You say :
I didn't read the references given(ie the links above)
OK fine,the thread is about Ubuntu=Canonical Company
Canonical has registered 3 Companies in the Isle of Man
which is a recognized tax haven(read links)
My Question here is that this raises anEthical
question.
+ Is spyware an
True that article doesn't do much to dissipate ...the myth?!
Or maybe there's actually myths that need to be debunked... :)
And then we have https://gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html
The problem with Mint is that it includes things like Flash and various
codecs, when they really are not necessary even to run people's hardware. It
might be user friendly but it really gives people the wrong idea about what
GNU/Linux is actually for. Why can't you recommend Trisquel? It is
Sorry, what was the point I missed? Did I misread a sarcastic comment as
serious?
The fact is they have been doing it for years and I agree with the radical
stance of the excellent Stallman when he defines Buguntu as spyware. That OS
**is** a spyware, the thing is turned on by default. Canonical is a
corporation that cares only about money and it is not very different
Trisquel 7 is already based on Ubuntu 14.04... why would there be a new
release of Trisquel based on an old Ubuntu release, the same one the previous
Trisquel release is based on? That would be nonsensical.
systemd is not "spyware". It is not "unsafe". And it's not "a lot of
profesionals
Ubuntu 16.04 LTS will be very bad version for people who want security and
privacy
because 16.04 LTS will use "systemd" as default.
This "systemd" software suite controls very important processes, and a lot
of profesionals ans Linux users are very
against this decision because "systemd" is
> I currently endorse Mint as a paddling pool for new GNU/Linux users
I would go against this suggestion, for two reasons: one, the Mint project
develops a lot of software that never gets sent upstream, so it is
effectively Mint-exclusive, which means Mint users who are used to this
well thats one example. I think for newbies compiling software to install is
complicated, or even to edit sources file.I used ppa for peerguardian as
example, but I think they do have a repo for debian as well not sure if its
as updated or maintained though.
but for me my surround
also surround sound doesn't work right for me on debian, and not as many
packages optimized for it, or easy to install 3rd party software repos like
with ppa's. Lets face it, ubuntu is just way more newbie friendly.
Quote:
Since we first proposed systemd for inclusion in the distributions it has
been frequently discussed in many forums, mailing lists and conferences. In
these discussions one can often hear certain myths about systemd, that are
repeated over and over again, but certainly don't gain
I seriously doubt it.
Regarding New Coke, that formula was genuinely favored over both the classic
Coke and Pepsi formulas in blind taste-tests, and people to this day enjoy
the base of it (Diet Coke; New Coke just took this formula and changed
aspartame to sugar). The only reason people
> I'm not sure what software you mean. All of the user-facing apps I've seen
in Mint are common ones.
I'm talking about the software the Mint project develops. Software such as:
- Cinnamon
- mintMenu
- mintNanny
- mintInstaller
- mintUpdate
These are not "common" apps. With the exception of
On Xfce and Debian the only issue I experienced is pulse related and it is
due a dependency which version in Debian has a bug so that it mutes the
speakers when you plugin in the headphone or (on another lappy of a friend of
mine) when you mute the speakers to 0 it also mutes totally the
not really a good option for me cause i like to use the puluseaudio equalizer
and be able to set diff volume levels for diff apps.
"Ubuntu Gets Serious About Data Privacy" and blah blah blah. Perhaps this was
their plan all along: You get really bad so that when you remove the
horribleness people celebrate it and how great you are. Compare, for example
conspiracy theories about New Coke.
>debian is harder to install trust me!
Nope. The installation is straightforward. Trivially easy, clear and doable
even by a granny who never used GNU. Give it a try maybe.
It seems you've missed my point.
We being spyed by "club bilderberg"?
Installing Debian was a breeze for me! It's your opinion By The Way
Debian installer is identical to installing Trisquel Netinstall Mini if you
choose To install in graphical mode..
I disagree, ubuntu may have spyware but they have less than, apple,
microsoft, google, etc...
Also without ubuntu we would still be using debian as its base and that would
not attract nearly as many people.
(debian is harder to install trust me!)
newcomers though will prefer an easy
So, clearly, you need to stop using Linux...
Luckily GNU/Linux gives me the freedom to decide this for myself ;-)
So when systemd will be rolled out I have the free choice to block it:
Just add in your /etc/apt/preferences,
Code:
Package: systemd
Pin: origin ""
Pin-Priority: -1
and I'm
I use Debian. If it wasn't for Debian you wouldn't have Buguntu and you
wouldn't have Trisquel.
I don't care at all what Shuttleworth did in the past. That's not the point
here. The point is that their privately developed OS is a spyware.
cheers
Linux was created in 1991 and liberated one year after that. The Linux
Foundation exists only since 2007 so that's a bit of an exaggeration.
Canonical has done good things and bad things and should be lauded for the
former and reprimanded for the latter.
The similarity between Windows 10 being gratis (which is not)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2957365/windows/why-windows-10-isnt-really-free-the-subtle-new-world-of-built-in-costs.html
& deactivating built in Spyware
makes me wonder
"Where's the backdoor?"
Another surprise is Cannonical has
Oh, please. systemd is flat-out tiny compared to Linux, which actually is
monolithic. I found an article from 2014[1] stating that systemd reached
550,000 lines of code. Linux 4.1 has over 19.5 million lines of code.[2] And
as has already been said before, systemd is a collection of about 60
I find it curious a piece of software has a section related to dispelling
"the biggest myths". I guess they've at least failed at explaining what their
stuff does.
Besides that it reminds of the classic Micro$oft "Get the Facts" campaign
which among its other merits claimed that
*
"systemd is free software: anyone claiming there is a spyware in it should
point out where. Nobody did."
That's the problem "systemd" is such a overkill and complex monster of a
program, that nobody can actually control or check it what is going on...
So "spyware" can be injected very easy,
Testing, testing
How's that supposed to be any kind of non-nonsensical response to onpon4?
It's not going to be such a thing unless there's uneaten kerstkrans in a
cat's anus.
now that i think of it, I later realized this but maybe I should have said
certain things don't work properly, sudo for example is disabled, and wifi
was glitchy, other than that, meh you might be right...
Maybe we should have a trisquel debian version. ;) Two trisquels each made by
If you install Debian without entering a root password during the
installation, sudo will be enabled. The wireless may have been glitchy
because Debian doesn't come with proprietary drivers out of the box and the
free ones don't work too well, assuming it worked fine in Ubuntu with the
Sorry, I don't see how this is related to functional data freedom, perhaps
because I didn't read the references given.
Unless there is evidence to support that Canonical has obeyed orders from
organizations which control this "tax heaven", then I can consider this as a
red herring.
Its all relative. If you didn't have Red Hat (a corporation that makes
money), you wouldn't have constant updates to Gnome for Debian. If you didn't
have the Linux Foundation (which receives corporate funding), you wouldn't
have the kernel for Debian. Desktop GNU/Linux was pretty rough until
"Canonical is a corporation that cares only about money and it is not very
different from Micro$oft or Crapple."
If it wasn't for Canonical, you wouldn't have a good base for Trisquel. You
would have to be pretty naive to think that you can sustain free/open source
software without some
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