Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-19 Thread ja-key
It's their choice. They can give up their freedom if they want to. But if you care about them, you will try to protect them.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-18 Thread tegskywalker
I know there's http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/netflix-linux-html5-nss-change-request but Trisquel purges Chromium, which is considered free software but Trisquel blocks it anyways. Your best best is Ubuntu. If the above method doesn't work, there's always Chromuium and the

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-18 Thread mail
I'm pretty sure it's purged because Chromium recommends non-free plugins.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread tomlukeywood
the majority of flash applications are non-free if pepole set out to make libre software there main platform is not normally flash!

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread tomlukeywood
i loved doom when i was a kid(12 years old+) but not too good for a 4 and 6 year old diddnt see that bit in your post!

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread onpon4
I once asked RMS what he would think of ROM hacking if copyright weren't a factor. He refused to consider it because it's a theoretical scenario that won't happen for several decades, but based on what he did say, I don't think he would consider ROM hacking as it's currently done to be good

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread onpon4
I think Batman Doom is OK. It does have blood and violence, but not very much. (Note: it's not libre, but it runs on libre Doom engines; preferably, use PrBoom or PrBoom+.)

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread blade . vp2020
Many of my friends want to play free baseball Unfortunately there is no baseball game free so far

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread sleepruim
Thanks Heather and Magic banana! installed Minetest and Celestia. I will show him tonight! He has played Minecraft (installed it on a Rasp) and he loves it so I'm sure he will be pleased. He likes platform games so I showed him Commander Keen. I found Clonekeen as a replacement:

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread onpon4
For platformers, I can recommend a few in particular: - Barbie Seahorse Adventures (package seahorse-adventures in Trisquel 7) - Secret Maryo Chronicles (package smc in Trisquel; you probably also want smc-music, for music) - Tux Strikes Back -- a SuperTux Milestone 1 (package

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread shiretoko
Alex the Allegator is really awesome, and so is supertux (and supertux 2 i as far as I remember). Though it is a controversal topic, i want to point out that for people actually make mods and hacks of old snes/nes roms and share them with the community, so they are exercising freedom 2 and

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-17 Thread noordinaryspider
You may hate me for Minetest, but if it wasn't me, it would just be somebody else. That's what this generation does. We don't have a server set up yet and mostly keep Heather Jr. offline, but that could change and undoubtedly will at some point.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread sleepruim
Hi all, I am sort of in the same situation as the topic starter. I have been using GNU/Linux for a while now. Started with Ubuntu, but switched to Mint after the Amazon implementations. Now I started reading the fsf and RMS websites and I agree with their points of view. I wanted to try

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread onpon4
1. My wife needs to use citrix to connect to her work. I am yet to find a free alternative It looks to me like Citrix is a company, not a program. Which program is it? If it's something that allows her to access a desktop remotely, maybe she could use VNC? Depends on her employer's policy,

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread tomlukeywood
1. if your wife NEEDS that application for work then if you MUST use it you can see if it runs in wine: https://www.winehq.org/download/ but i hope her employer will let her use a alternate method to connect to work if not then there may be pepole on this fourm who know more about that

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread mail
Note that a fair amount of (Older, about 2007 or so) Flash games still work with Gnash, so they won't have to give up entirely on Flash games.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread sleepruim
Thanks for your comments! Regarding citrix, I need a progam to open .ica files. Citrix has GNU versions available, just not libre. Thanks for the list of games, i will have a look. I know about some of them, but I'm a bit worried about letting my kid play doom already ;-) I will continue

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread Sachin
I think you mean your wife uses citrix app server or something I think they use rdp, try using remmina.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-16 Thread noordinaryspider
Minetest is free Minecraft Potato Guy is Mr. Potato Head only you won't hurt your feet stepping on the pieces if the kid forgets to put it away. Tux Paint is a educational and fun--MUCH more than m$ paint Celestia if they want to explore outer space PySyCache Child's Play What kind of

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-14 Thread maestro
you are welcome heather. sharing is caring! :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-14 Thread maestro
I've been streaming the movies that are not listed on popcorn using qbittorrent..I like old movies and many of them I can't find in poppp. I just found out that you can do the same using popcorn-time - all you need to do is copy a magnet link and paste it (ctrl + v) in popcorn-time !!

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-14 Thread noordinaryspider
YES!!! I had major culture shock when Popcorn Time started, but I couldn't find Harold and Maud so in shut it down and went to bed. Thank you so much for sharing, Supertramp83.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-13 Thread noordinaryspider
There really is no one size fits all answer. They may not even notice the difference between Popcorntime and Netflix or it could have something to do with family dynamics or the prevailing attitudes and cultures of different periods of history. I was doing very well with my family for a

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-13 Thread franparpe
I love how you take every oportunity to make fun of Windblows in the majority of sentences you write.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-12 Thread trisquel-57dhdj
You can install a different OS in a separate disk. Then your family can use another OS with a non-libre setup

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-12 Thread lcerf
You can as well do that with several partitions on one single disk.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-12 Thread maestro
this is the page https://popcorntime.io

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread noordinaryspider
I feel your pain. My octogenarian mother wants to buy me a smartphone because the voice quality of my dumb phone isn't very good and her vision isn't up to text messaging. I'm not a football fan, but you might be able to use a plug-in for Abrowser called greasemonkey and this userscript:

[Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
my family want me to setup a laptop next to there tv that will let them view football and netflix the problem is to view the football games i need adobe flash(gnash will not work) and non-free javascript and drm to use netflix i have tried explaining to them why netflix and adobe flash are

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread frozenion
If the laptop is not yours, it's probably up to your family to decide what they want to do with the system. If you're not willing to install the software for them because you feel it's ethically wrong, let them set it up themselves.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
11-01-2015 19:23:48 tomlukeyw...@fastmail.co.uk: my family want me to setup a laptop next to there tv that will let them view football and netflix the problem is to view the football games i need adobe flash(gnash will not work) and non-free javascript and drm to use netflix i have

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread ka1cey
I have to agree with post #1 here. If the machine is not yours, let them do as they wish, assuming you have explained your choices and desire to install only software that respects their freedoms. Let them install Win, a non-free GNU/Linux, whatever, and take full responsibility for it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread maestro
tomlukey - netflix you substitute with popcorn time the football games.. well it is not easy but it can be done. you can stream them with vlc - you have to find the addresses and that's no easy task. It's been a while since I used it to stream sports - https://code.google.com/p/tv-maxe/ it's

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
:( http://getpopcornti.me/

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
dose anyone know how to build it? the build instructions are only for o$x and m$ windows theres no makefile and when i try to compile it like g++ main.cpp this happens: gui/main.cpp:1:24: fatal error: QApplication: No such file or directory #include ^ compilation

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
oh thanks!

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread maestro
Whatever you do, don't bend over backwards trying to convince people who don't care about freedom to use a more freedom-respecting OS. very intelligent sentence.I agree completely with you! It is sad to see someone you care about use windblows, but it is their freedom to not be free

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread mail
The source code is here: http://popcorn-time.se/source.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread joseph . e . dickson
If I were doing this for family I would install as few non-free packages as possible and then load the system up with Free Software. Sure it's not ideal but it's easier to convert people to Free Software when they've been using a mostly free system. This way you get them hooked on Free

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread onpon4
I don't like how the one at popcorn-time.se has different version numbers for binaries on different systems. Does anyone know what this means? I get the feeling that the developers of this particular fork don't care much about GNU/Linux. This fork seems to me to be better:

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread onpon4
There's an odd icon on the top-right. It leads to here: https://git.popcorntime.io/stash/projects

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread onpon4
This is the source code to the fork at popcorn-time.se, not the fork at popcorntime.io. It's a different codebase.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread mail
http://popcorn-time.se/

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
so i am assuming theres no legal way to acsess netflix with libre software?? i think i will install trisquel with adobe flash and the non-free netflix application for gnu/linux its sad i am doing this but if i dont they will be running the same programs but on a much worse operating

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
i cant find the source code on that website do you know were to find it? i wanted to build this program from source and find it weird that theres dosent seem to be a source code download

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread onpon4
Netflix uses digital restriction mechanisms, and it's not feasible to come up with a way to break the handcuffs, because they can be changed on a whim. So no libre software can access Netflix videos.

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread marioxcc . MT
I agree with Sjors and Dave_Hunt. tomlukeywood: It's sad to see that your family insist that you do something you don't want to, and for a good reason. That's something unethical from them. Don't fell compelled to help anyone with something they insist on using, despite you telling them

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread onpon4
It's important that if someone tries to give you an ultimatum like get this system to work this particular way or I will use some other system, you don't take it as a personal offense. Even if they're threatening to use a proprietary system like Windows or Mac OS X. Keep in mind, what they

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
its more i feel if i can help it then it moral to install libre software they dont care whats on it as long as it works

Re: [Trisquel-users] my family want me to install non-free software

2015-01-11 Thread tomlukeywood
its licenesed under the gplv3 why is it not in trisquels repo's??