Re: [Trisquel-users] If I install CentOS 6......

2015-04-07 Thread pinmaritim
 Yes! That would be nice i was struggling on mount/ after  
partitionioning...Thanks


HuangLao xrote:
PSS: completely unrelated, but there is a great way to install Parabola via  
an Arch specific GUI installer if anyone is interested I could post it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I install YAD?

2015-04-07 Thread pandyadeepp

Output of ./configure
$ ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk... gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
checking whether make supports nested variables... yes
checking whether make supports nested variables... (cached) yes
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no
checking whether NLS is requested... yes
checking for style of include used by make... GNU
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler works... yes
checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out
checking for suffix of executables...
checking whether we are cross compiling... no
checking for suffix of object files... o
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed
checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... yes
checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3
checking for intltool = 0.40.0... 0.50.2 found
checking for intltool-update... /usr/bin/intltool-update
checking for intltool-merge... /usr/bin/intltool-merge
checking for intltool-extract... /usr/bin/intltool-extract
checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for msgmerge... /usr/bin/msgmerge
checking for msgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
checking for perl = 5.8.1... 5.18.2
checking for XML::Parser... ok
checking for gcc... (cached) gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... (cached) yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... (cached) yes
checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... (cached) none needed
checking whether gcc understands -c and -o together... (cached) yes
checking dependency style of gcc... (cached) gcc3
gtk2
checking for pkg-config... /usr/bin/pkg-config
checking pkg-config is at least version 0.9.0... yes
checking for GTK... no
configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 = 2.16.0  
gtk+-unix-print-2.0) were not met:


No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
No package 'gtk+-unix-print-2.0' found

Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.

Alternatively, you may set the environment variables GTK_CFLAGS
and GTK_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.


What is the next step?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Best choice for a Single-Board-Computer?

2015-04-07 Thread manhoso99

http://www.minnowboard.org/
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/minnowboard-max-review



Re: [Trisquel-users] Google is talking in our campus...

2015-04-07 Thread maestro

I see..well..next time!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Proxy (Squid3) setup Error

2015-04-07 Thread gadgilaniket

I was able to sort this out. Line in the configuration was not allowing it:
http_access deny all
I changed it to http_access allow all

Now it is working.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 7 weird spying voice

2015-04-07 Thread maestro

If you don't need it nor anybody that uses your computer you can remove it:
sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-orca


Re: [Trisquel-users] i3wm on a Trisquel 7 and dual screen issue + intro

2015-04-07 Thread maestro
wheezy (Debian 7) comes with an older kernel and that kernel doesn't require  
the non-free firmware to display the native screen resolution with the ati  
graphics card. Same goes for Trisquel 6. But Trisquel 7 and Debian Jessie  
(which will be soon the new stable release of debian) ship a new kernel and  
that kernel requires a proprietary firmware to be enabled for my graphics  
card to achieve the native resolution. I installed Debian Jessie (Debian 8)  
on a USB key just to try it and try to modify some things in order to have  
the proper resolution but to no avail. I went to the debian irc chanel and  
several dudes told me that there is no way around it and that I need a  
non-free package for it to work properly..

:(


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I install YAD?

2015-04-07 Thread franparpe
Make sure that that the dev version of the package is installed on the  
system: Debian, and therefore Trisquel, divide the package so you have to  
install the correct dev package to be able to compile the program. You can  
distinguish the development package from the rest because they end with  
-dev, for example: libgtk-3-dev.


Re: [Trisquel-users] release upgrade to trisquel 7 error

2015-04-07 Thread spiritualmirror

finally fixed it.
if any one interest, i removed many packages from = grep Broken  
/var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log





Re: [Trisquel-users] Project: Starfighter

2015-04-07 Thread onpon4
Done. :) (Renaming it to Project Starfighter isn't really necessary, in my  
opinion; Starfighter is a legitimate short name for the game.)


[Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread ghost565269
I am new to linux and was wondering if I could give it to my nice young  
daughter.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Google is talking in our campus...

2015-04-07 Thread qazxswedc

Yup!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread tirifto

Hello and welcome!

First of all, 'Linux' is just a part of a bigger system called 'GNU'. People  
often call this combination 'Linux', but properly it should be called  
'GNU/Linux', since all the operating system like Debian, Blag or Trisquel are  
actually a part of GNU/Linux family.


Now, to answer your question: I'd say yes.

I'm not entirely sure what do you mean by 'fair to all women'. An operating  
system is a computer program; it's a tool used by the user. Free software  
will only be unfair to women if the user will use it to do things unfair to  
women. Personally, I don't know any software that would discourage fairness  
to any gender.


In case you were worried by the software community and development, I think  
you will be happy with GNU/Linux. Like you probably already know, not all  
software is free. A lot of people develop and use non-free software, which is  
wrong, because freedom is a very important value. Most people don't realize  
that and use systems that disrespect people, such as Windows. Then we have  
GNU/Linux family; most of systems in it are only partly free, though. It's  
better if you use system like Fedora or openSUSE than if you used Windows,  
but it's best to use a 100% free system, like here Trisquel.


Trisquel is the most user-friendly out of the 100% free systems. If you can  
make it work, I reccomend you to use it. If your hardware doesn't work with  
100% free software and you can't afford new one, you can have a partly free  
system for now (I'm assuming you use a non-free system, so it would be an  
improvement for you.)


Now, about the community. Communities are made of people who have something  
in common (As in, an artist community is made of people who make art, for  
example.) Free software community is usually very friendly and nice! That's  
because all of them care for human values. People who use non-free systems  
can be any way, but people who use 100% free systems do so because they care  
about freedom. And people who care about freedom also usually care about  
other important human values, such as respect, kindness and equality. If  
someone decides to use free software, they want to support something good in  
life.


If you look at various free software projects, you can see that they are  
generally very friendly and open to everyone. As a great example, I'd like to  
use the GNOME project. They work on providing people with a free desktop  
environment, the project is participated in by both men and women alike, they  
make annual meetings and events, and they even participated in Outreach  
Program for Women!


To sum it up: If you choose to use free software, you shouldn't run into any  
ethical problems at all. And if you do, they can be easily fixed, because  
it's free software and you have complete control over it. Community-wise,  
free software community is very helpful and friendly. So your daughter can go  
ahead and give it a try! :)


I hope my lengthy post was helpful. If you run into any problems, I'm sure  
you'll be able to find help here. Also, have a nice day!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I access my computer from anywhere in the world from another computer?

2015-04-07 Thread davidvargas1
Sorry for my off-sheet comments, it was a big typo on my behalf.  After all,  
Yes, you could use your smartphone LED lights to shine light through the  
fiber strands to check for continuity.


 Excuse me again, but my current response is only related to your fiber optic  
response.  Call me Master optical fiber Troll.


Sorry again!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread maestro
if she can type in a terminal sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade and  
sudo apt-get install name of application she's good to go!

:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How do I access my computer from anywhere in the world from another computer?

2015-04-07 Thread maestro
Jodiendo has this way of posting here..so some people may think (and  
rightfully so) that he is troll!
He is not! He is actually a quite normal and also kind old man. We spoke on  
irc several times and he is always cool and gentle.

He likes to joke and btw his user name says it all..
:)


Re: [Trisquel-users] If I install CentOS 6......

2015-04-07 Thread davesamcdxv

This deserves a seperate topic :)

A seperate forum actually but name another libre OS with a forum!


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread davesamcdxv

First of all, 'Linux' is just a part of a bigger system called 'GNU'

Nitpicking here but it isn't. It works with GNU('s components?), but it's not  
part of GNU.


Re: [Trisquel-users] If I install CentOS 6......

2015-04-07 Thread davesamcdxv
Thanks for the replies! (by the way, I was specifically wanting to use  
CentOS, and not Fedora)


So the answer's no, then.


[Trisquel-users] Re : FSF compliant UI mockup/sketch tool

2015-04-07 Thread calinou

What about this?

https://github.com/prikhi/pencil (GPLv2)


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread davesamcdxv
You can give Trisquel to your daughter. Just make sure the hardware works  
with Trisquel.


Linux isn't an OS, though. It's a programme of a genre whose members are  
important for operating systems to run, but not quite an OS.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 7 weird spying voice

2015-04-07 Thread ka1cey
If the screen reader is on for the login greeter, use 'ctrl+s' key on  
dialogue, next time you login.  On your desktop, use 'alt+super+s' to toggle  
the screen reader.  If it is off, it should be off in future sessions.


HTH,

Dave (a user of Orca screen reader)




Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread tirifto
Ah, yes, bad wording. Thanks for the correction, Linux is indeed not a part  
of the GNU project :)


[Trisquel-users] Re : How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread lcerf
That really is not required: a window pops-up when security updates are ready  
to be installed. At least it does on my Trisquel 7 (with GNOME Shell).


You might be kidding but if maybe im a lamp has never used Trisquel, he  
(she?) may not get it.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread mail
Yea, Trisquel GNU/Linux should work perfectly for your daughter. If she can  
point-'n-click, then she's OK.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Best choice for a Single-Board-Computer?

2015-04-07 Thread mampir
I've fiddled with a A13-OLinuXino-WIFI last year.  It wasn't mine, so I don't  
have it currently with me.  I did various tests with it, to see how it works  
with free software.


I'm very sure the WiFi did work without any non-free software.  I also want  
to know why megurineturilli desoldered the WiFi.


I manually compiled and installed everything.  I used:


  Debian Wheezy

  Used debootstrap
  Tried both armel and armhf


  linux-sunxi-libre

  Compiled from source as provied by megurineturilli
  The link to the source is down (http://platen-software.de/linux-sunxi/)
  I have and can reupload the source

  U-Boot

  Compiled from source by the linux-sunxi project
  I'm guessing it's fully free, but I'm not completely sure


  fex2bin

  This is used for making a script.bin file, which is a config file used  
during boot

  Compiled fex2bin from source by the linux-sunxi project




The board worked fine, so I'm guessing it works with a fully free GNU system,  
including USB, VGA and WiFi.  I don't remember if checked how X.org or if LAN  
works.  I didn't check audio out, microphone, GPU, VPU or GPIO.  I mostly did  
text/console stuff.


You should probably buy a USB-Serial-Cable-F.

This cable is used to get text/console access with the device via USB and GNU  
Screen, including system during boot.  As I remember the VGA output didn't  
work through the whole boot process, but I might remember wrong.  I used this  
cable the whole time.


I've made notes on the how I build everything:
http://www.libtec.org/dev/notebooks/hardware/olinuxino.org
https://www.libtec.org/dev/notebooks/hardware/olinuxino.org
(For HTTPS I use CAcert, see: http://www.parabola.nu/https/)

The notes are very concise, but I wrote all the steps and commands for  
building everything from source, minus Debian packages.  I can further  
explain things that aren't clear. :)




Re: [Trisquel-users] Best choice for a Single-Board-Computer?

2015-04-07 Thread mampir
IceCat in Trisquel presents is self as if it's running on Windows 7, so  
people can't track you easely.  It's User-Agent header is:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/31.0



[Trisquel-users] Can you install Trisquel without connecting to the Internet during install?

2015-04-07 Thread j9rt042

Hi!

I am a growing fan of free software, have been starting off with Debian but I  
would love to now try Trisquel and see what it's like.


The reasons for having freedoms include security and privacy also (no back  
doors, no binary blobs, 'free hardware' one day I hope too), so I have a lot  
of incentives for going 'free', aside from autonomy!


I have a strong desire to be able to install Trisquel without connecting to  
the Internet. I do not want my real IP address downloading packages and  
connecting to a single server until I am running a vpn client within  
Trisquel, after which I can download further packages and/or updates past  
that point.


Is this possible?

So to relay what I've done so far: I've got a spare laptop, an old Dell, and  
I've downloaded trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso, the main 'full' ISO from  
https://trisquel.info/en/download from the looks of it.


I burnt it to a bootable USB in Debian, and all seemed to go well, when:

- First attempt - graphical installer. I get all the way to selecting  
encrypted home folder option (right after partitioning and I chose encryption  
with LVS), and a big crash happens. Says either CD/DVD has got problems or  
HDD is old/etc. (the HDD was recently DBAN'ed and I don't think HDD is the  
problem).


- Second attempt - this time, text installer. I'm fairly comfortable with  
that anyway, so away I go - well, this time I'm stuck at this 'Bad archive  
mirror' error, and I'm not sure how I can get past it and install the basic  
OS packages without needing Internet connected.


I '', choose 'Download installer components', and it forces me to 'Choose a  
mirror of the Trisquel archive' and even with 'enter information manually',  
I'm taken to 'Bad archive mirror' (and I assume because of 'mirror is not  
available' reason in the error).


It would be a massive shame if there's no way to install Trisquel without  
compromising one's privacy on the Internet. I mean, I COULD probably work out  
some complicated gateway setup where I 'Torify' or 'VPNify' the Ethernet  
connection coming in to the laptop for the Install, but that's really  
prohibitive (I may not have the hardware to do that anyway, my router's not  
DD-WRT'able etc and I have no PC with more than one Ethernet jack to try and  
make into a linux gateway, and I do NOT use Wifi so hotspot option is out),  
and even make a passionate Trisquel potential like myself not to be able to  
do this.


We really need an offline install option (for users with anonymity concerns  
or poor Internet), even Windows and OS X can do that!


Is there a way I can work around the mirror error and continue on with  
installation from the disc? Does the disc even HAVE a local repo of packages  
or is the bulk of the 1.5GB taken up by the live OS on the disc? HANG ON,  
what am I thinking - of course it doesn't, does it? It would need WAY more  
size on the disc right?


:(

Thanks for your help...

If there's anything I can do like create my own mirror on the disk from  
copying from another mirror (and make the mirror hostname /sda, or some LAN  
IP like the debian PC I write this from now), or other ISOs available  
somewhere, I'm all ears! I'm really pretty determined, and willing to get my  
hands dirty, but not spend money buying extra hardware when one shouldn't  
have to just to be able to do an offline install of a worthy OS! :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can you install Trisquel without connecting to the Internet during install?

2015-04-07 Thread j9rt042
Hmm after trying the graphical install again I'm thinking that offline  
install IS fine with this (it must be small but hey, I like that), but again,  
I'm getting this frustruating 'error while copying files to disc' error once  
the step for that starts. As an experiment I'm going to see if ubuntu (then  
if that fails, debian) installs just fine to the same hardware (fully offline  
of course, and with all the normal encrypted LVM options, I know at least  
this'll all work with debian), and if either of them work (or certainly if  
debian does) then I'll know there's some bug with the Trisquel installer :/.


I'll update you once I have news from this, either way...thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] Can you install Trisquel without connecting to the Internet during install?

2015-04-07 Thread j9rt042
Man, I've now learnt to check MD5sums of all ISOs I download from now on, it  
had a different MD5! Now downloading the ISO from a direct link based on the  
MD5 url you gave (so  
http://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso),

on my - you guessed it - fairly slow VPN... :)

Thank you! I think that was obviously it, data corruption of some kind.  
Indeed I DID have an Internet disruption during the download now that I  
remember it, and a dl resume across an entire reboot and everything. Maybe  
not the best idea in Firefox, that! And actually, I probably will remember to  
TORRENT as many ISOs as I can too, now...may take longer to download if not  
the most popular ISO but worth the wait since you're guaranteed to not have  
to re-dl it at least.


That's an excellent idea about VPN'ing the Internet ON the Live OS and  
launching the installer on its Desktop there, though - indeed, not  
complicated. (But clearly I need to re-download the ISO in case of other  
issues anyway.)


However, wouldn't there be some 'restart' at some point in the install  
process and thus possible downloading of packages/connecting to random  
servers which after restart from the live OS obviously means your real IP is  
involved?


That's the issue facing that idea (which is still, good to know about) - it  
may not be 100% robust - I mean you can probably unplug Ethernet once the  
'now rebooting' part happens, but I still want to keep Ethernet unplugged  
until the first thing I do is connect to my VPN in the installed OS, all  
controlled by me, no unpredictable surprises. This is pretty important for  
someone serious about their anonymity/privacy, where they don't intend to  
make mistakes if they can help it.


o, I'll try a correct ISO offline install, and if nothing goes wrong I won't  
reply (about it if I have nothing else to reply about), and you can assume  
the offline install went as well as the test Ubuntu one I just did, which  
yes, worked without a hitch.


Thanks again :).


[Trisquel-users] Re : Can you install Trisquel without connecting to the Internet during install?

2015-04-07 Thread lcerf
However, wouldn't there be some 'restart' at some point in the install  
process


No, there wouldn't. You only restart once the install is over. You can even  
delay this restart if you started some work/game on the Live system (while  
installing) and want to end it first.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why are some packages not trustworthy?

2015-04-07 Thread xnchgyqk
I was also having this problem (when installing software, warning saying the  
packages cannot be authenticated).


This was on Trisquel 7.  I had not made any changes to the default software  
sources, mirror, trusted signing key, or any other Software  Updates  
settings.


The default mirror was in.archive.trisquel.info.  I don't know why; I am not  
in India.  Changing to the main server fixed the problem.


In case anyone is having this problem, reading this thread, and doesn't know  
how to change mirror, here's what to do:


Click on the Trisquel symbol in the lower left of the screen.  Go to System  
Settings.  Go to Software  Updates.  In the Trisquel Software tab, there  
will be a pulldown menu called Download from:.  Change it to something else  
(this is referred to as changing to a different mirror).  Close the settings  
window, and see if this has solved your problem.  As I said before, the main  
server is working for me as of the date of this post.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Files slow to load network locations, sometimes

2015-04-07 Thread xnchgyqk

Hello,

Any thoughts at all will be greatly appreciated.  This is causing me  
significant problems.


Thanks!


Re: [Trisquel-users] If I install CentOS 6......

2015-04-07 Thread taiji_tao
No for Freedora, however, rmmmusical's reply seems very interesting and  
should work with little trouble.  


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread taiji_tao

Does this not seem a little trollish to anyone?




[Trisquel-users] Re : Can you install Trisquel without connecting to the Internet during install?

2015-04-07 Thread lcerf

Says either CD/DVD has got problems or HDD is old/etc.

Sum-check the ISO:
$ md5sum trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso

It should be ef6b33d2959dbbb6016188868975091f according to  
http://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso.md5



I mean, I COULD probably work out some complicated gateway setup where I  
'Torify' or 'VPNify' the Ethernet connection coming in to the laptop for the  
Install


According to  
http://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso.manifest  
the Live system has everything to setup OpenVPN from the NetworkManager  
applet (the package network-manager-openvpn-gnome is listed). If you need  
another VPN client, then you could separately download the related packages  
from http://packages.trisquel.info (using a secure connection) and install  
them in the RAM of the live system with 'sudo dpkg -i'. You should then be  
able to set the VPN up from NetworkManager.


It is not that complicated.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How Does linux work? is it fair to all women?

2015-04-07 Thread xnchgyqk
No, it doesn't.  I like to assume good faith, so I assume that this was a  
sincere question.


To which my answer would be, if your daughter is capable of using Microsoft  
Windows or Mac OS, then she is most likely capable of using Trisquel and will  
most likely find it satisfactory.


Re: [Trisquel-users] IceDove replaced Thunderbird.

2015-04-07 Thread xnchgyqk

This is such a terrible attitude.

The vast majority of computer users will *never* type anything into a command  
line, ever.  The vast majority of computer users simply will not use an  
operating system the use of which requires them to type anything into a  
command line, and nothing anyone has to say about it will ever change that.


The Trisquel project holds Trisquel out as an operating system suitable for  
use by the general public.


Do you beleive in the virtue of software freedom?  If you think it's okay for  
free software to be useable only by a small minority of people, then in  
effect you're saying most people should use proprietary software, and  
ultimately you do not beleive in the virtue of software freedom.


Besides: Add/Remove Applications ships with Trisquel, hence it should work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Project: Starfighter

2015-04-07 Thread gramex
I am trying to compile the game on Trisquel 6, but it fails because I don't  
seem to have the right libraries installed.


~$ make
g++ -O2 -Wall -g `pkg-config --cflags sdl2 SDL2_image SDL2_mixer` -c  
-DVERSION=\1.3\ -DDATADIR=\/usr/share/games/parallelrealities/\  
src/alien.cpp

Package sdl2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `sdl2.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'sdl2' found
Package SDL2_image was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `SDL2_image.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'SDL2_image' found
Package SDL2_mixer was not found in the pkg-config search path.
Perhaps you should add the directory containing `SDL2_mixer.pc'
to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
No package 'SDL2_mixer' found
In file included from src/alien.cpp:20:0:
src/Starfighter.h:31:17: fatal error: SDL.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
make: *** [alien.o] Error 1

This doesn't give me any useful hint on which packages to install. I already  
have libsdl1.2-dev installed.


Thank you for continuing the development of this game. I hope to play it  
soon.


Re: [Trisquel-users] IceDove replaced Thunderbird.

2015-04-07 Thread xnchgyqk
By the way, I did indeed install Icedove using the terminal.  My original  
post was a general commentary about the transition to Icedove, not a request  
for help.  Perhaps that was not clear and if so I appologize.


My point here is that just use the terminal is not a good answer from a  
overall policy perspective because, if that's the only answer the community  
has to offer, most users potential users will simply give up on the software.


I can't even count how many people I know have completely given up on linux  
because they beleive it requires use of a terminal.