Re: [Trisquel-users] Is this Librem13 fully free this time?

2015-09-16 Thread svhaab
appelbaum retweeted librem crowd funding. It will show if thinkpenguin and libreboot are right. To my knowledge nowhere has appelbaum explained his involvement in librem. It will fall on him, if it shows that he attached himself to what is likely a scam and he should have known. I want to

Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-16 Thread tomlukeywood
ok but make sure to get your files off first also how did you install supertux?

[Trisquel-users] Italian military to switch to LibreOffice and ODF

2015-09-16 Thread grandizo
Although this news does not relate to Trisquel directly however it's a good for the open-source community. Source: https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/italian-military-switch-libreoffice-and-odf

Re: [Trisquel-users] Negative effects of non-free software

2015-09-16 Thread tomlukeywood
just saw this video from the UK conservative party’s youtube channel thought it was a joke at first... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hgJokgNJHo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-16 Thread tomlukeywood
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/its-time-nominate-your-free-software-heros#comment-78615

Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-16 Thread ethernet252
>>ok but make sure to get your files off first I did'nt have anything personal i wanted to keep before reinstalling, But midi playback does not work for some reason after installing fluidsynth. >>also how did you install supertux? Through the add/remove applications app

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread mcz
I'm not. My link suggests that Firefox is actually faster.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-16 Thread vitacell
Today, you can see how an OS works, thanks to Richard. Today you can use a fully free OS, thanks to Richard. Today, you have tons of free software, thanks to Richard. Today, you can use a fully fre computer, thanks to Richard and Francis. Today, you can improve your programming, seeing source

[Trisquel-users] Re : Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
I doubt the external hard drive has anything to do with your login problem. Are you sure the keyboard layout is the same you used when you defined the password? Can you log in a terminal? To get such a terminal, press Ctrl+Alt+F1. You can then go back to the graphical session with Alt+F7.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread onpon4
I didn't say it's "not exactly free", I said that it's not exactly a free version of Fedora; rather, it's a modification to Fedora that can make it free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-16 Thread mcz
Freedom of speech isn't an easy task: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#Limitations Fortunately, calling people trolls and other names (ad-hominem indeed) and not backing it up is what you often did these days, so I can't say I would defend that. But I can see why you're

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread jadedml
The your-freedom package prevents the installation of non-free code, and due to deliberate conflict with non-free packages in Fedora's repos, deletes non-free packages on a Fedora system. If you want to install proprietary software after installing the your-freedom package, you have to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread onpon4
As in, you can use it to make Fedora free. > Does that mean that voluntary installation of non-free code is possible? Voluntary installation of proprietary software is always possible. In the case of the Freed-ora package, you could (but shouldn't!) easily reverse its effects just by

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread mcz
That can make it free? I don't understand: installing that package does what exactly? I have a hard time deciphering what you wrote. What I get is that additional package makes (or can make? what's the difference?) Fedora free. And that when installed, it prevents the accidental installation of

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread shiretoko
I still think bluezo's messages should not be hidden. Downvoted maybe, but not hidden. Nothing should be hidden unless it's real spam in the sense of "buy viagra" or racist /violent stuff. The way this forum works at the moment puts its own values ad absurdum. Does the trisquel community

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread jadedml
One of the rules of this forum is to not recommend proprietary software. If a post is breaking the rules, it should be downvoted. If a post isn't breaking the rules, it shouldn't. bluezo only recommended non-free software in one of his posts on this thread- The other two were just him stating his

Re: [Trisquel-users] MacBook 1,1 to Libreboot in software way

2015-09-16 Thread vitacell
So, can you remove this protection/limitation? What program/programs(hex editor) did you used for modify it? What files did you edited?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
You are free to study, modify and redistribute the list of dependencies the package "your-freedom" conflicts with. That package is free. Trisquel does not have any non-free package in its repository. The "your-freedom" package of Freedora prevents the accidental installation of the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread mcz
Oh, I see why you say it's not exactly free, as it prevents the installation of non-free software. In a way, Libreboot isn't fully free because it doesn't support running non-free OSs (useful to study them). But I can live with that.

[Trisquel-users] Help needed - Cannot log in trisquel after external harddisk not ejected properly

2015-09-16 Thread devtaporia
Hi all, i am new to trisquel and currently stuck in a problem. I am unable to log in, when i put in the correct password, the screen flickers (as if trying to log in) and after two blob/bleep sounds (sound which is usually associated with something wrong has been typed in) it returns to the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread mcz
I see, thank you both for the clarification. I personally don't care about installing non-free software, it's just that I was told (and might have misunderstood) that a free system can't prevent you from installing non-free software. If it does, it's not free. Sure you can reverse the effect

Re: [Trisquel-users] Possibly new user. Lots of noob questions

2015-09-16 Thread moxalt
> without LibreJS ... there's no edit button That's strange. I was expecting it be because of LibreJS, not the lack of it (for some strange reason the Trisquel site does not support LibreJS, even though the JavaScript is free and (should?) be tagged properly). There should be an edit button. Oh

Re: [Trisquel-users] Possibly new user. Lots of noob questions

2015-09-16 Thread moxalt
Oh.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Possibly new user. Lots of noob questions

2015-09-16 Thread moxalt
> Then I opened in MSoffice and gave warning of compatibility This doesn't happen in MS Word 2013 and above. Even in the versions before that, the 'corrupted data', 'unrecoverable data' and 'compatibility issues' notifications are simply designed to scare people into using Microsoft's secret .doc

Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-16 Thread moxalt
Oh, OK. I was wondering why all the Social Benefit recipients were organisations... :) Thanks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Something general and Pale Moon youtube HTML5 issue

2015-09-16 Thread moxalt
If I wasn't in Claws, I'd +1 the hell out of this post.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread mcz
I think I got that mixed up with external installations, like from a PPA. I mean if Fedora with that free package install does prevent let's say a software from a PPA (that I've mistaken as fully free), then it's not free, is that right?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
It is free. The "your-freedom" package satisfies the definition of free software: https://gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html It is not forced upon the user like a DRM would. The user can remove the package or not install it in the first place. Not that I would recommend it since it would only

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread tegskywalker
I'd love for someone to take the effort in checking Chromium and making it more freedom friendly. Of course, this has been an issue for like 3 years now and people would rather spend time on this site telling you that you are wrong and this is evil and that is evil instead of taking the time

Re: [Trisquel-users] Italian military to switch to LibreOffice and ODF

2015-09-16 Thread tegskywalker
Awesome!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Italian military to switch to LibreOffice and ODF

2015-09-16 Thread tegskywalker
I'm not sure if you saw this back on the 8th with the UK government: https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/uk-government-publishes-odf-guidance-0

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is there a shut down log, and where can I find it ?

2015-09-16 Thread amenex
Here's what "find /etc/rc* -name '*apache*'" produces: /etc/rc0.d/K09apache2 /etc/rc1.d/K09apache2 /etc/rc2.d/S91apache2 /etc/rc3.d/S91apache2 /etc/rc4.d/S91apache2 /etc/rc5.d/S91apache2 /etc/rc6.d/K09apache2 An Internet search reveals this link:

[Trisquel-users] Re : Is there a shut down log, and where can I find it ?

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
You can indeed purge any package with "apache2" in its name. I have no Web server and none of those packages are installed on my system. They are not part of the default install either. I guess you either explicitly installed Apache or some package depending on this Web server. That is why,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Its time to nominate your free software hero(s)!

2015-09-16 Thread lap4fsf
And don't forget the fact that he pioneered the concept of copyleft, which uses the principles of copyright law to preserve the right to use, modify and distribute free software. He is also main author of free software licenses which describe those terms, most notably the GNU General

Re: [Trisquel-users] The FCC is asking for comments on a proposal to to lock down computing devices (routers, PCs, phones)

2015-09-16 Thread mcb
Hello guys, I was noticed about the FCC proposal of restricting wireless devices modifications, and I decides to help stop this threat. I started a petition in Avaaz to try to stop this bill. I also contacted the US Pirate Party for support. But the Chairman of the Pirates replied saying

[Trisquel-users] Re : Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread calinou
Are you aware of the Iridium Browser, which is a fork of Chromium?

[Trisquel-users] Generative Load-Screen (Pixel Art Image)

2015-09-16 Thread janjohn2go
Hihi, I'm interested in "generative art". You can see a colorful load-screen while boot progress. How does the package is named ? Is there a way to reproduce this fine art on desktop when logged in ? This is plymouth, isnt'it ? How does the the is named ? Thank you mates.

[Trisquel-users] membership software for an association

2015-09-16 Thread adel
Could you recommend software that an association can use for members to create accounts and submit membership information (name, email, phone, membership type [student, full-member, etc])? The association already has a domain name, web host, and website. The members would submit membership

[Trisquel-users] Freedom Phoenix : Radio Talk on the FCC lock down of Free Software (FSF's Josh Gay & Christopher Waid)

2015-09-16 Thread chris
I did a show yesterday and Josh Gay did a show today for anybody who is interested in listening: https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Media/183316-2015-09-15-09-15-15-james-paul-christopher-waid-jay-kalafus-video.htm Freedom Phoenix on the FCC and savewifi - talk with Christopher Waid

Re: [Trisquel-users] My new trisquel rig!

2015-09-16 Thread tomlukeywood
weird what was the error message you got when you booted up?

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread shiretoko
Yeah that's right. If someone recommends non-free software or breaks the community guidelines in any other way, i understand that he gets downvoted. Everything else is just bullshit.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
And you would apparently rather spend time on this site complaining that nobody takes the effort instead of taking that effort by yourself. You apparently care, whereas most of us (I believe) are satisfied with Abrowser and Icecat.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.

2015-09-16 Thread kaptcha
Hey folks it is Ututo what I want to try not gentoo, what a mistake!: gentoo is not on the fsf list!. but anyway the question will apply to any other linux distro to check on a new drive. the new distro requires installation of grub on its drive?.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.

2015-09-16 Thread kaptcha
thanks a million to those who could help me!. Regards

[Trisquel-users] Re : membership software for an association

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
The administration of an association usually depends quite a lot on the laws of the country it is in. For instance, here are two applications that aim to ease the administration of a French association: http://dev.kd2.org/garradin/ https://code.google.com/p/piwam/

[Trisquel-users] Re : Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
Are we talking about two internal drives? If so, do not worry: the last installed distribution will populate GRUB's configuration with all available systems. I am not sure what happens with a USB external drive. By the way: Gentoo can be 100% free. Not by default though. You need the

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread greatgnu
cool!!

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread Dave Hunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So far, I've gotten a few complaints about low volume, and a request for more shows. In response to the first, I have uploaded a normalized, mp3 version; it's very loud; let's see if "it'[s too loud" complaints come in. Go here for the new version.

[Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.

2015-09-16 Thread kaptcha
Hi I already got trisquel installed on a drive and I would like to try gentoo on another drive, I m very new to linux and I need to check some details first; this new drive requires installation of grub?. Or, otherwise the grub that I see at the beginning when I turn on my computer will be

Re: [Trisquel-users] membership software for an association

2015-09-16 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Here's one more French system. GPLv3 http://galette.eu/dc/?navlang=en

Re: [Trisquel-users] Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.

2015-09-16 Thread GNUtoo
I always have huge doubts regarding the quality/extensiveness of the effects of "100% free" settings on non-free distros: What guarantee me that they go as far as Trisquel and parabola with packages content? I guess that they use the ebuild LICENSE, but will using the "deblob" USE flag

Re: [Trisquel-users] MacBook 1,1 to Libreboot in software way

2015-09-16 Thread GNUtoo
There is a huge fear about BIOS rootkits. So until recently, the idea was that the device's BIOS had to implement, in software, ways to make sure that only official BIOSes could be reflashed via software. In practice, some BIOS don't have any "protection" against reflashing, which is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Phoenix : Radio Talk on the FCC lock down of Free Software (FSF's Josh Gay & Christopher Waid)

2015-09-16 Thread ethernet252
So what will the FCC lockdown on wireless routers (or whatever they were trying to lockdown) mean for GNU/Linux users (like you)

Re: [Trisquel-users] MacBook 1,1 to Libreboot in software way

2015-09-16 Thread vitacell
I modded one of mine. For better cooling. +Coollaboratory Pro thermal paste.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Phoenix : Radio Talk on the FCC lock down of Free Software (FSF's Josh Gay & Christopher Waid)

2015-09-16 Thread chris
No, not yet. It'll follow any FCC rules and I'm not under the impression that its forthcoming immediately.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread ethernet252
I'm a diffrent person now. I like free software. I believe it liberates us from the evils like Microsoft and Apple. Nobody deserves to be monitored (spied on). This is why the FSF existed

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread Dave Hunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That's two languages covered; Yours in Arabic, Mine in American; LOL. So far, mine are tailored to users who are blind; if others can benefit, even better! On 09/16/2015 11:32 PM, blade.vp2...@gmail.com wrote: > I made in Arabic in the past I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Phoenix : Radio Talk on the FCC lock down of Free Software (FSF's Josh Gay & Christopher Waid)

2015-09-16 Thread chris
Worst case scenario if perfectly enforced (vs selectively enforced, ie don't irritate the FCC) we are done for. You might even be committing a crime by buying an older laptop on ebay. Sellers are suppose to re-certify devices. Ones that were already certified under the old rules.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread blade . vp2020
I made in Arabic in the past I want to made in English But I Afraid of my English I want to work full audio documentations

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread ethernet252
>>This forum is not a place to recommend Chrome and Steam. I did not recommend chrome or steam. I read the guidelines thoroughly beforehand. I just asked if Chrome was ok. And for steam, i was just said i had an account. this was way before i even knew that the Free Software Foundation

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread ethernet252
I'll give it a try, after all, i'm in a place that is 100% free software, i might as well try it out on the holidays.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Installing Trisquel and gentoo on another drive, grub required?.

2015-09-16 Thread lcerf
You are right. ebuilds fetch source codes from the sites of their respective authors. As far as I know, Gentoo does not maintain patches to apply to those source codes. As a consequence, programs that raise subtle issues (such as those listed at

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread Dave Hunt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks; Maybe I'll put a link to my mediagoblin collection in the wiki someplace. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJV+jF/AAoJEPDWzxLwi2tASqUH+wTZ7AZp23ARBOZdAZGUVtdL

Re: [Trisquel-users] Google Chrome For Trisquel

2015-09-16 Thread tegskywalker
Installing now

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread adel
Cool, this should go in the documentation.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I made an audio demo/tutorial using Belenos and Orca.

2015-09-16 Thread blade . vp2020
And the other reason is We must teach them how to install the os but the installer Inaccessibility in sum parts ( the map) and( the user name and password)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Phoenix : Radio Talk on the FCC lock down of Free Software (FSF's Josh Gay & Christopher Waid)

2015-09-16 Thread tomlukeywood
have you managed to find sources for the when these FCC laws could be implemented in the EU?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The FCC is asking for comments on a proposal to to lock down computing devices (routers, PCs, phones)

2015-09-16 Thread chris
Reply to his email and tell him the article gets a lot of things wrong, quotes people who haven't fully understood the issue, and makes or implies false claims about the campaign. Let him know that he should contact the josh at the FSF if he wants the full scoop. Or get on the mailing list.