Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread masonhock
That made me feel good. Thank you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread dahunt
How refreshing. Not really out-spoken advocacy, but it's a start. Maybe somene will see that strange desktop and want to learn more about it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Family Buying Me Cellphone Without My Consent

2017-11-16 Thread masonhock
Everyone here is correct that no one has the right to force you to do anything. That said, I know that it is hard not to let that happen in certain relationships. While I've started using JMP recently, I still have a cell phone that I leave at home but use to communicate with my family. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Family Buying Me Cellphone Without My Consent

2017-11-16 Thread onpon4
Are you a minor? What do you mean by "shaming"? What are they saying? What are they telling you to do? What kind of government program?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread usename
That is how I generally feel too. I think copyright is fine on arts and different works but just not when it comes to software generally because art really doesn't need to be changed. It doesn't get bugs it just has a message. If I were to write a book/ make a painting I would probably do a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Family Buying Me Cellphone Without My Consent

2017-11-16 Thread jason
Sounds like your family isn't respecting your decisions which is something you can't really control. You can assertively tell them your decision and why and stick with it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
I agree very much with this. Free software is a choice that people should make, not something that should be imposed on them. Ubuntu is a good stepping-stone away from the sinister Windows/Apple world.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Family Buying Me Cellphone Without My Consent

2017-11-16 Thread csh
I feel bad giving the device away, because I don't feel it's mine to give away. It's thru a government program. Not turning it on works for a while, just as keeping my mouth shut as police keep badgering me with questions works for a while. But after an hour or a few days with my family

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread calmstorm
We need a balance between encouragement, enforcement towards freedom. IT is hard to do, but when people take a step towards free software, we should encourage them to go further, not condemn them for not going far enough.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread calmstorm
Actually, with that attitude, I fear people will not understand our purposes. I think we should not condemn, or condone at the least if we disagree with such things... As for me, I may have changed my mind on using CC BY SA ver 4... I may make all of my books on a copyright. One that both

Re: [Trisquel-users] No open FSF/GNU forum?

2017-11-16 Thread J.B. Nicholson
leestro...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps there really is a need for someone to set up a free, open and independent forum, which can act as a focal-point for the Free Software community? How hard is it to set up/maintain a forum? I think the concept of a focal point is wrongheaded, particularly

Re: [Trisquel-users] Family Buying Me Cellphone Without My Consent

2017-11-16 Thread onpon4
Are you asking how to dispose of unwanted electronics, or how to not use them? If the former, give them to someone else. If no one else wants it, give it to someone who takes electronics for recycling. Best Buy does this. If the latter... just don't turn it on? I don't know what else to

[Trisquel-users] Family Buying Me Cellphone Without My Consent

2017-11-16 Thread csh
I have SMS and telephone access with Ekiga and Pidgin, using the JMP service, so I'm not completely without a phone. Yet, today I learned that my family has decided to get a cellphone for me behind my back. Every day I don't open it, they'll ask "Where's your phone?" How do I keep this

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'd like to start volunteering my time to help Trisquel. What can I do to help?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
You mean, updating from Trisquel 7 to Trisquel 8?

Re: [Trisquel-users] No open FSF/GNU forum?

2017-11-16 Thread csh
I'm new to mailing lists, but I'm finding them more convenient than forums.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where is and when trisquel 8 will be released?

2017-11-16 Thread onpon4
This whole "init freedom" nonsense conflates technical convenience with freedom. You do not lack freedom to use something other than systemd because everyone else makes their code work exclusively with systemd. You can choose to use an outdated system, or fork that component, or develop a

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'd like to start volunteering my time to help Trisquel. What can I do to help?

2017-11-16 Thread csh
I asked Ruben what needed to be done, because I was going to try to help out. He said the distro updater needs to be tested. Install a new Trisquel system, start the updater, and record what it does. Then modify the updater and start the test again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread csh
Stephen Fry uses Ubuntu.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread csh
GNOME was in a Justin Bieber music video once.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread csh
Doctorow is a traitor. He no longer uses CC licenses for his novels.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread dahunt
I'm not sure what, if anything, of Ubuntu was shown, but, a lead character mentioned it by name. Afaik, this has happened once in the entire series called The Big Bang Theory. Otherwise, characters are shown using Skype and their IThings. Oh, and I think Ubuntu got a brief mention in a Tom

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'd like to start volunteering my time to help Trisquel. What can I do to help?

2017-11-16 Thread greatgnu
I believe this is the page you want to visit -> https://devel.trisquel.info/groups/trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Either the rating system goes, or I will

2017-11-16 Thread greatgnu
Dude.. I mean, dude.. why leaving because of this crap, it's crap but that does not excuse you, you are not excused, so you can't leave.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'd like to start volunteering my time to help Trisquel. What can I do to help?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
Lol :) Seriously though, is he not reviewing/accepting patches/merge requests (or whatever) that are being submitted? Or are there none being submitted? Is there a way we can see how many were submitted in the past 30 days? (I don't expect you to necessarily know the answer to all these

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'd like to start volunteering my time to help Trisquel. What can I do to help?

2017-11-16 Thread greatgnu
>but is there a comprehensive list of what needs to be done to make Trisquel 8 'complete' and ready for release? Nope, other than 'cloning Ruben, and then cloning Ruben's Ruben and the other one too' so they make up for 4 developers.. there's no way to make Trisquello ready for release :'(

Re: [Trisquel-users] Global Value Chains and the Missing Exports of the United States

2017-11-16 Thread greatgnu
mv thread /lounge

Re: [Trisquel-users] internet-undersea-cables

2017-11-16 Thread greatgnu
mv thread /lounge

Re: [Trisquel-users] No open FSF/GNU forum?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
Just to follow up on this thread I started a while ago: I donated $10 to the FSF yesterday, because I was interested to try out their forum (as well as to contribute to their efforts on free software, of course!). I went on there, expecting to see a thriving free-software community,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Untrusted packages

2017-11-16 Thread greatgnu
>What should I do? Remove the, eww, ppas, obviously. Consider compiling your software from source, it really is not rocket science. cheers

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Either the rating system goes, or I will

2017-11-16 Thread shiretoko
"You did not post this thread to have an open exchange of ideas." You have no way of knowing my intentions when I posted this thread. Or did you somehow get a picture of my thoughts? I highly doubt it. Why would I open a thread like this and share my concerns with this community if not for

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'd like to start volunteering my time to help Trisquel. What can I do to help?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
I'm sure this is posted somewhere, but is there a comprehensive list of what needs to be done to make Trisquel 8 'complete' and ready for release? I have to admit I haven't tried it yet myself, but I am planning to install it on my desktop, as soon as I can find some time.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
I found the video! Here it is: https://www.gnu.org/fry/happy-birthday-to-gnu.en.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
Ok, that's cool. Stephen Fry seems like a good guy :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
Yes, that is more what I was getting at. For example, Hollywood or TV stars, or musical artists. It seems to me that Free Software could really use one or two 'ambassadors' that have a high-profile outside the Free Software movement. Also, it's interesting that you mention product

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
I meant, except for rms and you, Adfeno, of course! XD

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
I'm not sure how active he is or if he uses Free Software in his personal life, but Stephen Fry made the now pretty well known 25 Anniversary video for Gnu. I can't imagine he did it for the money.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread dahunt
All of those are preachers to the choir. What I think the op is after are names of of celebrities who are known more for their work outside the free software connunity, but who are allies. Hence my mentioning a well-known SF author. On a related topic, who has seen product placement of a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
There are so many, please forgive me if I forget some names. Besides, this list is in alphabetic order, and I also inserted those beyond famous, because I don't want to keep giving credit only to specific already known "stars". - Adonay "adfeno" Felipe Nogueira (it's me, ;D), member of

Re: [Trisquel-users] JAPAN - batteries

2017-11-16 Thread jbahn
Just to dismiss the mystery: I am interested in finding cheap batteries for librebootable devices because I need new batteries for some librebootable devices and like to spend my money well! Tada. I have never encountered problems or even heard of someone who has when bringing

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
Ok, that's interesting. I hadn't heard of him, but I might have to check out some of his books :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread dahunt
Thesci-fi author, Cory Doctorow comes to mind. He addressed this spring's Libreplanet conference and was a hit!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Uruk 2.0 Last Touches

2017-11-16 Thread dahunt
I like the Uruk control center and welcome screens. They give it a distinct look and feel; thanks for making sure the accessibility works on those custom screens. I would like to see the indicator applet replaced with the standard Mate applets, namely NetworkManager and Sound Volume. A

[Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-11-16 Thread leestrobel
I'm just wondering if there are any celebrities that are known to use Free Software? (apart from rms, obviously!) :)

[Trisquel-users] internet-undersea-cables

2017-11-16 Thread jodiendo
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/04/tech/gallery/internet-undersea-cables/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where is and when trisquel 8 will be released?

2017-11-16 Thread jodiendo
Sra Heather Is all cool from my end.

[Trisquel-users] Global Value Chains and the Missing Exports of the United States

2017-11-16 Thread jodiendo
If trade statistics included the value of intellectual property rights associated with physical goods, the United States would see an increase in export capacity and a decrease in the trade deficit. More and more American multinational corporations are outsourcing the production and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where is and when trisquel 8 will be released?

2017-11-16 Thread Cassandra of Troy
I'm not going anywhere either. I think the health of the forums depends on us. Activism fatigue is very real and the negativity hurts the people who actually MAKE the goodies we love more than it hurts us. I need to do my homework so that I understand my own deviations from the vanilla install

Re: [Trisquel-users] Upgrading Trisquel in a live CD

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
Megver83 is correct that arch-chroot will work. If you like Pacman and find Pacstrap helpful...why don't you just use Pacman on Trisquel? You could also create a custom ISO so you have a fallback that is closer to the system you want and has more recent updates on it that the stock Trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] JAPAN - batteries

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
You could buy one online and have it shipped to wherever you are staying. I've done that when I realized I forgot something after the point it was not possible to return home.

Re: [Trisquel-users] JAPAN - batteries

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
Some countries don't allow you to bring batteries over a certain size on the plane, that could be the issue. Also, some people make efforts to disable their devices to make it harder to search them when leaving a country like the U.S.. If you dont have a battery or charger with you and the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Either the rating system goes, or I will

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
Ok, I'll bite. I use the downvote feature from time to time to express that a thread is worthless without feeding the troll. A downvote doesn't prevent a thread from moving down the list of active threads like a comment does. I downvoted your topic when you posted this thread. I stand by

Re: [Trisquel-users] Where is and when trisquel 8 will be released?

2017-11-16 Thread dhood
He means the freedom to change init systems and use the one your want to. Systemd is not as easy to change as others because of all of the various crap it does as opposed to alternatives. There is also an active concern that Systemd undermining diversity of software generally speaking

Re: [Trisquel-users] JAPAN - batteries

2017-11-16 Thread aaji
Hi GNUbahn, I live in Japan. If you want to hunt, you should go to the small computer shop of Akihabara for the time being. I think a major electronic appliances store does not stock.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Where is and when trisquel 8 will be released?

2017-11-16 Thread lcerf
init freedom? systemd is and has always been free software.