A proposal is just that. Implementing is another.
Traditionally, Trisquel has had two variants -- default GNOME desktop and a
lightweight DE (currently LXDE).
MATE has been chosen and it's still in beta. I dare not hope that there would
be another big change in the near future. Ruben
Hello,
For days I've hoped that this thread would end up getting better and that a
lesson could be learned from all that chaos, but I no longer think it's
possible to get anything good from letting it grow even longer.
I've moved it from the Trisquel-users forum and I've locked it, but I
@vltr Thank you.
I am not ethical, but want to be. It is in fact hard to be ethical, and this
should not be so. It should be the easiest thing. I am weak and often
compromise or participate in things when I know it causes harm, be it the
environment, sweatshop labor or other things. I ask
woops, meant overhaul not over hall ^^^ :P
I am proposing this an option for the default release in future.
Also, the latest Xubuntu is 1.2 GB.
Look here --->
http://mirror.exetel.com.au/pub/ubuntu/xubuntu-releases/17.10/release/
I like Arc also! However I find that it makes menu fonts far less readable.
Xubuntu's Greybird theme seems like a nice halfway point between classic and
modern desktops. I think most people would feel comfortable with it.
Although you and I find it easy to tweak desktop settings, it is not
Just have a look at how much space LibreOffice uses and you will see that
most that is not "unnecessary". New users like to have all the bells and
whistles by default. It is a shame modern software has become so bloated :(.
Ey little robot, I have been ready some of your post and just to tell you
that I really enjoy reading them ; )
You look like being a little good robot! I like good people... well in your
case good robots. Sorry ;D
Because they would would be using Xubuntu components :P.
A five year LTS is not really necessary for most cases either. Three MAY be
sufficient, so that is a potential option.
That wasn't a very Lain-like comment. Lain would be a bit more constructive
in the Wired.
Besides, these laptops take time, resources, and effort to recondition and
certify.
Laptops are underpriced in general, mostly off the backs of exploited labour
and resources.
Stop shitting up the forums with petty bickering between fsf certified
companies selling overpriced laptops. Disgusting.
As far as I have understood, and tested, and without me being a huge expert
this would be a more extensive explanation of the procedure.
1.- Install Trisquel Belenos.
2.- Install all the updates so you end up with the most up-to-date Belenos
system.
3.- Install some programs of your
Hi calher,
Nice to meet an apologist for Israel.
According to UN Resolution 242, you are wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242
According to Amnesty International, you are wrong:
Time is relative. The faster we move the slower it gets.
Remember, folks -- the future is tomorrow's yesterday.
Ey Gnutastyc, I think what you said was part of the solution... Well I have
not yet tried to upgrade because I came here to explain my progresses, but
now there is no warning about the keys recognition so I guess I will not have
problem doing that.
I explain what I have done for the
YAY!! :D :D: :D :D
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Vikings, do you offer VPSes yet?
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I didn't mean a literal waste of space, I meant that figuratively.
I caught it, thanks!
If you have an issue with Libreboot (and it sounds like you do) you should
either use the Libreboot site for support, or if you bought the computer from
a vendor seek support from that vendor.
Yes it is. ;)
2017-12-15T15:41:31+0100 dh...@fastmail.com wrote:
> Bump, is this happening today?
>
Hello there,
> It's irrelevant now though
It may be not relevant to you, your initial comment about VAT was factually
wrong though and I cared to correct it. Suddenly it's "irrelevant", which
seems counterintuitive.
> Thomas, btw, you're part of that peace deal I offered Tiberiu.
Huh?
Eh, it's not a waste of space. No more than 1 MiB, surely.
I just saw this message at 13:02 Eastern Standard Time.
OK, I won't send any more messages of that nature.
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Running Trisquel on a random machine is not hard. My first Trisquel
laptop was a random laptop my mom got from Walmart, and it not only
worked with Trisquel, but even the Wi-Fi card inside the laptop was
working just fine.
Someone else I used to know got two random computers and put Trisquel on
I'd like a copy of install-guix.sh. I hate following the Guix manual
every time I install Trisquel.
What do you mean by "cloud servers"? Like your VPSes?
I fixed it already a while ago, but thanks for the offer.
I'll see if it comes with Dvorak on my next order. I'll order by
encrypted email. (Not any time soon, but whenever I need an additional
computer or this one is too much of a pain to repair.)
Wait. How do I send encrypted mail if my
On Thu, 2017-12-14 at 23:23 +0100, gert.otten.1...@gmail.com wrote:
> I was joking about Spotify. And yes I'm new to the forums, but everyone has
> got to start somewhere, right? I am using Windows 10 at the moment, only
> because of the fact that Microsoft shoves it down my throat.
Yeah, I
On Fri, 2017-12-15 at 14:26 +0100, v...@protonmail.com wrote:
> I understand that you just meant what I said, but that you were trying just
> to simmer down that cat ; )
As I'm sure the person from ikhider.com will agree, we probably
shouldn't simmer down a cat, because that would be non-vegan.
I believe that it's time to blow the whistle that again the voting system of
the forum is being abused to hide posts and promote only one's view that has
been repeated over and over again in a thread. Last time this censorship has
prompted me and other colleagues to react and vote too in the
Boycott the British. They're the ones who drew those stupid borders.
Jews bought land in Palestine, fair and square, and their neighbors
still used violence and boycotts against them just for living there.
Forget those people.
If people still want to live there, great. Stay there, but under
>My only complaint with Xubuntu (and XFCE in general) is how porky it has
gotten, there is no reason in hell Xubuntu needs to be bigger than a cd
image...yet the new version is more than a gig in size.
download the debian net install iso and in tasksel select only to install the
core
>It is not that I do not like the default Trisquel look, I just think it
needs an over hall.
Well, de gustibus, mate. Maybe many dudes like it better. But yeah, everyone
can tweak their DE as is best fits them, that's the beauty of it :)
I love the looks of xubuntu but I really much prefer
Sorry to change the subject but, does anyone know how to turn off thinkpad
keyboard beeps on Libreboot? Thanks!
Ahhh, interesting. : - )
Flame war, smear campaign...either way my vote is to not allow self promotion
at all and tightly moderate topics before that become a 4 page long waste of
space. This is especially true when the topic of the thread has little to do
with using or building Trisquel.
That makes one of us, I think this entire exchange undermines libreboot as a
project and makes me not trust either vendor. You couldn't pay me to use
their products at this point. This of course was also completely predictable
because the exact same flame war has already happened two
It is a fact that getting truly Libre and ethical hardware to run software
like Trisquel is not that easy. Granted "LibreLeah" may need to hire a PR
firm, we still learned a lot from this exchange. Some important points were
raised. Also, keep in mind that entities like TechnoEthical give
It used to be a self promotion thread.
Now, I think, it fits the definition of a smear campaign where the OP has
been reduced to defend herself against flaming.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smear_campaign
A smear campaign is an intentional, premeditated effort to undermine an
Thank you Gnutastyc. I am going to try that. I hope this is finally the
solution.
Thanks again : )
I have been able to fix it downloading the key manually and then adding it in
Systems Settings > Software and Updates > Authentication > Import key. Select
your key and it was solved for me.
This thread is a self promotion flame war, it in no way advances the cause of
Trisquel. In fact it hurts it.
Right, I forgot, Trisquel and laptops running Trisquel, or buying laptops
that run Trisquel is not Libretech. Got it. Kthanxbye.
If someone advertises their products as 'ethical' or 'free', it sort of is on
topic. Sort of like buying 'fair trade' products from the Warsaw Ghetto. ; -
)
Trisquel 8 has had a complete overhaul. The chosen DE is MATE. Xfce can be
installed easily via terminal wuth a few trivial commands. I don't think
Ruben has the time to make several ISO's to suit every need and taste.
Bump, is this happening today?
Trisquel 8 isn't finished and like all in development ISO's is bigger than
what the final release will be. Never mind that we do have Trisquel Mini.
The latest final release of Xubuntu is 1.6 gigsthe same size as mainline
Ubuntu which has a full DE. Even Lubuntu is approaching a 1 gig
And how is that different than the 5 years of LTS support currently with
Trisquel?
Right now we are in a thread that goes for pages without even mentioning the
topic of this forum: Trisquel. This is not a "libretech" forum, it is the
Trisquel users forum. It is a place where people come to get help using and
building Trisquel.
Being nice should be just for the sake of feeling well with oneself as well
as for the sake of willing truly to get along well with others.
I understand that you just meant what I said, but that you were trying just
to simmer down that cat ; )
As far as I am concerned, the best company I have experienced buying Libre
sofware is Technoethical, and I have already by from 3 of those companies.
Welcome to the forum. I was also registered as a new user weeks ago, and you
are right we also have a right to speak and to exist here.
>This has to stop
What has to stop? Could you explain it? Is the issue about people just
talking about true facts? Does freedom of expression about true facts hurt
you?
Think about it? I understand if you feel bad reading this thread, but the
reason you are feeling bad is not because I
"Kafkaesque" comes to mind.
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/29/nyregion/the-essence-of-kafkaesque.html
"What's Kafkaesque," [...] "is when you enter a surreal world in which all
your control patterns, all your plans, the whole way in which you have
configured your own behavior, begins to
I recommend Hyperbola if you people want a stable, secure os and are tired of
waiting. IF not, then just be patient. :)
That's what I am using now.
This has to stop, you are making her and yourself look bad.
We should be working together to make free software more available, not
flaming each other... and frankly, Leah is trying to make peace with you...
despite everything that is happening...
Please make peace for the sake of the free
Calher,
I know you mean well, but I wish for everything to de-escalate, or otherwise
not re-escelate.
I don't think vltr meant anything particularly nasty by it. They were simply
referring to my gender. Let's not turn this into another war, please :)
The war is over.
~Leah
Godwins law aside, let's not go down that road.
Besides, it's off-topic to the thread.
Calher, I know you mean well, but please let's not re-escelate things.
This is not a war worth having. The fighting has stopped, and that's all that
matters.
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