Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?

2017-12-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
The water is a proprietary Dasani blend. killercoke.org

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 16:35 +0100, lourivell...@gmail.com wrote: > What do you guys think about BS that mozilla pulled by installing an addon > without the users consent? I was just in the process of fully switching to > Firefox - despite knowing that they were basically just the lesser evil.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to install packages downloaded from the web, like IceCat?

2017-12-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
Or open file with gdebi.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I met RMS yesterday. We talked about Trisquel 8, this is what he said...

2017-12-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
Archiving email is hard. I don't blame you for not saving it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] I'm happy that Trisquel 8 is finally being developed, but I won't have time to help. I wish everyone good luck :D

2017-12-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
Don't use the proprietary software on your computer. Use THEIR software on THEIR computers.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread enduzzer
Purism are not upfront about their offerings. People might fall for their nice marketing parlance but at the end of the day, it is just that, sugar-coated words without real meaning. One might give them credit for trying not so hard and failing miserably. The OS is a separate issue and it

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread calmstorm
Well, what do you know, something that comes from purism that is ACTUALLY PURE! ;) Don't really trust them though and I won't be using the os just because of systemd alone... but yeah... that's not the only reason. *cough librem cough*

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread ejh
A page of that sort does not appear to exist, unfortunately.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread jason
There seems no community around it. As I go to the website (which seems very basic) I find no reference to mailing lists, IRC channel, forums, or anything at all beyond a bug tracking system.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread fbits
Is there no page to see which distros have requested fsf endorsement? It would be good if there was a transparent "waiting list" which included the dates when each request was made.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
They could make a libre laptop, but the specs would have to be lower. I don't mind that they compromise on freedom for more modern hardware. It's not ideal, but there is a set of people who would be unwilling to use any of the machines supported by libreboot, and I would much rather they use

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel development questions

2017-12-21 Thread amrprznu
.-*| In support of the community |*-. Dear Trisquel, You know that they don't let me hack with you at work anymore. They even pushed me to use M$ and Ma¢ crap. You also know that I am using another distro at home, because I just needed more recent software. But girl! I have found more

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread ejh
ConnochaetOS, Uruk, Hyperbola, CloverOS, Heads. I haven't spoken with any of those developers in quite some time, especially ConnochaetOS, but I know the last time I did they were all seeking certification.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
Yes, I also think that's where the Mate stuff is from, but as long as /home/davidpgil/.guix-profile/share is in there I don't see why that would matter What is the output of$ echo ${GUIX_PROFILE}?

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread christian
Uruk and Hyperbola aren't?

Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-21 Thread jabjabs
Doesn't Signal usually use Google play services to make the contact links? I know there is a Libre version (https://fdroid.eutopia.cz/) but it uses a different server backend to make it work. Am I missing something here?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
I am hoping the icons for the programs i install would appear in the pull down menu. When I was using Trisquel 8, ADFENOs technique worked. But in Trisquel 7, that doesn't work. Mine looks like this: export

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread jabjabs
I have said for a while that I feel Purism has some good intentions but they mess up the message so badly some times. Their business interests butt up against the moral ones and they let the business side win. I'm sure if they could make fully-Libre hardware they will be the first to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
Mine looks like this in Trisquel 8 /usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/home/mason/.guix-profile/share:/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop I think /home/mason/.guix-profile/share was added by ADFENO's steps. ADFENO's solution worked fine back when I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Guix usage

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
I'm having issues getting this to work in Trisquel 7 ... What does your XDG output look like? I think mine may be messed up somehow.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Make a bridge Ethernet to WIFI

2017-12-21 Thread lcerf
Would you make that post a manual? Trisquel's documentation is a wiki: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/all-manuals

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
I have no issues with Purism except for the way they promote their laptops, so I don't know what prior experience could be biasing me against the way they promote their laptops. Have you read the page I linked to yet? It's not like I'm cherry picking a few potentially misleading quotes

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread 0d54770d
Your reply was everything I expected it to be; thanks for showing me that unfair bias is still alive and well!

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread 0d54770d
PureOS is based on Debian testing.

[Trisquel-users] Make a bridge Ethernet to WIFI

2017-12-21 Thread arielgnu
I will like to share how I manage to make a bridge between Ethernet to Wifi. If all what your looking for is just to simply share your Internet connection you don't necessarily need a bridge for that and it is easier to do so by following some other how to on the Internet like the following

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread onpon4
Just a note: I don't like Purism either (I think I've made that clear enough), but it's possible to denounce one activity while being in favor of another. There's nothing wrong with PureOS as an OS as long as it's entirely libre, which has been verified to be the case.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread onpon4
Cool. Not one I'll likely be using personally, but it's nice to have another option. I forget, is this based on Sid, testing, or stable? I seem to recall it being the testing branch, but I'm not entirely sure (the website doesn't say).

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread onpon4
I don't think any other GNU distro is currently seeking endorsement.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel development questions

2017-12-21 Thread Pablo Correa Gómez
Send the stdout and stderr of the command sudo BUILD=flidas ARCH=amd64 pbuilder create so I can compare it with mine. Also, make sure that you don't have a warning about pbuilderrc missing. It you have that warning, that means that the chrooted environment is not able to follow the symlink to

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
> The FSF article states that Purisms hardware is still not approved. Yes, the FSF was very clear. I wish that Purism were equally transparent. > its just the reality of tryign to run a business that costs millions of dollars to keep afloat. Minifree manages to survive selling only freedom

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
You're confusing PureOS, which is libre and warrants FSF endorsement, with Librem laptops, which are not and do not. This is not your fault, but a result of Purism being intentionally misleading at every opportunity.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
> No, their laptops are not perfect now, but please show me a place where they state/imply that they are. I already have. The page I linked to https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/ implies that the laptop has no freedom issues as strongly as possible without making any explicitly false

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread greatgnu
downvoted, in the trollo hollo it needs to go, just like all that pure crap :/

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread 0d54770d
Most of the criticism of Purism that I see on this forum is a textbook example of bikeshedding; rather than focusing efforts on criticizing the people who explicitly, knowingly, and unapologetically make and endorse proprietary software, those efforts are used to criticize a company about

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel development questions

2017-12-21 Thread leestrobel
> Then, you have to make sure that the file /var/cache/pbuilder/flidas-amd64-base.tgz has been created. It doesn't look like it was. Hmm ... what do I do now?

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
The FSF article states that Purisms hardware is still not approved. I think its just the reality of tryign to run a business that costs millions of dollars to keep afloat. They are AIMing to be pure and I think at least cleaning up the distro is a great step in showing that. Its generally

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread ejh
It is quite strange. I realize PureOS has been a topic of discussion for a while regarding an addition to the gnu.org recommended gnu/linux distros, but there are so many free as in freedom distributions that I'm sure have been waiting approval at this point. I also realize the difficulty

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
Why would the FSF endorse PureOS if Purism was created a malicious distro? I don't understand your arguments.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
> Its like they all got high and just watched old videos of Steve Jobs for hours when they were coming up with how they would engage with the world. Haha. That sums it up better.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Maybe its time to rethink Mozilla products

2017-12-21 Thread dhood
oh ya, I know. I'm just tired of people posting stuff the effect that no one has personally explained to them why it is not available...without ever trying to figure it out on their own. The example I used is right on the Wikipedia page for those so inclined.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread dhood
I'm more blunt when I am asked about them: Purism = Slimeballs Everything they do is just sudo-marketing double speak. Its like they all got high and just watched old videos of Steve Jobs for hours when they were coming up with how they would engage with the world. All this in the shadow

Re: [Trisquel-users] have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-21 Thread svhaab
>6.1 Newest version is replicant 6.0 0003? In security, unknown sources must you enable allow installation of apps from unknown sources? You download the signal apk. Move it to a sd card. Where do you locate the signal apk file on the replicant phone? >open it How do you open the

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
It's a shame, because if they were upfront about the freedom issues with their products the way Technoethical is https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices/tet-n2 I might recommend them to people who want a mostly libre system but are willing to make some compromises to have more modern hardware.

Re: [Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
I was curious to see if Purism had started conflating this with their non-free hardware yet. They don't yet mention the FSF endorsement, but I had forgotten just how slimy they are. https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/ No mention of the fact that only the OS is free. They don't even disclose

[Trisquel-users] FSF adds PureOS to list of endorsed GNU/Linux distributions

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-adds-pureos-to-list-of-endorsed-gnu-linux-distributions-1

Re: [Trisquel-users] I Went Back From Trisquel 8 Alpha to Trisquel 7 and This Is What Happened

2017-12-21 Thread masonhock
Trisquel/Guix (or as I've taken to calling it lately, Trisquel+Guix) is a great solution. You get the stability of a LTS distro with the ability to upgrade a package to the latest version of a package if necessary. That said, since the packages in Trisquel 8 are more up-to-date, I've found

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
If you read the link on EOMA68 it explains it in detail. If you want to fully understand this stuff you need to invest attention into it. Its ALOT of info, but I think it's very worthwhile to learn all about it. It would probably be more useful to go on youtube and lookup Richard Stallman

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-12-21 Thread greatgnu
:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-21 Thread greatgnu
Tx, Alij, will do.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?

2017-12-21 Thread svenerik_vn
That's some great information right there, sir. Tyvm

Re: [Trisquel-users] Minifree's Libreboot X200 laptop comes with Trisquel pre-installed. Now with other keyboard layouts available, and free stickers

2017-12-21 Thread info
3D printed keycaps for X200/T400 would be nice, with the user's own choice of symbols on the keycaps. Then native dvorak would be possible. It would also make it cheaper to get native keyboards in almost any layout.

[Trisquel-users] I Went Back From Trisquel 8 Alpha to Trisquel 7 and This Is What Happened

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
After I accidentally "nuked" my Trisquel 8 Alpha install, I moved back to Trisquel 7 because I heard from ADFENO and others that you can use the Guix package manager with it. Some things I would like to say and I may add more later as I get up and running more... - The Linux-Libre Kernel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fluid Automounting External USB Drives In Trisquel 7

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
I'm using Trisquel 7 now ... I have used usbmount before, but I felt it was kinda weird. The way it works is it gives you soome usb1 through x "slots" and you can plugin to those. I guess, if thats the only option, then I will have another look at it and see if I can make it less weird to

Re: [Trisquel-users] No open FSF/GNU forum?

2017-12-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
+1 2017-11-16T20:26:25-0600 J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > I think the concept of a focal point is wrongheaded, particularly when > it comes to free (as in freedom) discussion. Every free software > project (even different GNU distribution) will continue to make their > own choices for hosting and get

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?

2017-12-21 Thread davidpgil
At the moment there is very limited support for a purely non proprietary computer/ parts. Some options are: EOMA68 seems to be aiming to be libre hardware https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop I have heard but I don't understand how that the Talos II is also libre hardware

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are there any famous celebrities that advocate Free Software?

2017-12-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Thank you very much! ;) 2017-11-23T20:28:47+0100 great...@riseup.net wrote: > shame on you for doubting adfeno's level of celebritivenesss. > or is it celebritivity?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-21 Thread nuevodesorden
Love you SuperTrump. ;) check this out too > https://webdevelopmentaid.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/customize-privacy-settings-in-mozilla-firefox-part-1-aboutconfig/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Custom building and water cooling in the free world?

2017-12-21 Thread svenerik_vn
Ah, yes. I know the tubes and fittings doesn't contain any software, but for me personally, it would bug me to buy from a company that also develops waterblocks for locked/proprietary parts.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel development questions

2017-12-21 Thread ablocorrea
Yes, fixing the package builder is a priority, but it is quite a lot of work (there are more things to fix than it looks like), so releasing Trisquel 8 is an even higher priority. Here you can find some very nice sum up of the meetings, that is usually updated on the road:

Re: [Trisquel-users] setting up a SeaGRUB configuration on an x200

2017-12-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I wonder if Libreboot support channel might help. If I recall correctly, the product you have has ways to contact the people who provided the product for you, or even links to where you can contact Libreboot. Trisquel is concerned with Trisquel related things. If both the people from the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : "Corrupt or invalid kernel image"

2017-12-21 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
+1 As a plus to what Magic Banana said: we mustn't recommend non-free software for other people, exceptions are for people who are committed to replace the very non-free part, but this person didn't say that, instead the person said to be a normal user. 2017-12-20T00:14:21+0100 lc...@dcc.ufmg.br

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel development questions

2017-12-21 Thread leestrobel
Hi gnutastyc, Thanks for the info. I downloaded that diff you pointed to and patched trisquel-builder and it seems to be working better now. Yes, I would think that fixing the package builder should be a high priority, if it isn't working properly. I haven't actually been to any of the

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: have you installed signal on replicant?

2017-12-21 Thread baheto
Hi, I am using Signal on replicant. Just download the apk file from the signal homepage and open it. Then it will be installed. But keep in mind to upgrade to the new replicant version fist 6.1 003, otherwise yout system will crash. I described the problem here:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fluid Automounting External USB Drives In Trisquel 7

2017-12-21 Thread ablocorrea
I think that the package "usbmount" should do the work for you. I have found it in Trisquel 8 repo.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel development questions

2017-12-21 Thread ablocorrea
Hi Time4Tea! It's awesome that you are already working on it. I've started helping a couple of weeks ago, and I faced some There are a couple of things that still need to be fixed to help with the package helpers. They were raised in the last meeting if you were there. First of all, the