Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon Perfect analogy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> In this case, the source code gives you... Well, I'm not certain of that since I'm going off Wikipedia. If you (or you distro) is allowed to build Palemoon without modifying it and call it Palemoon then it's the same situation as Firefox. If not, that means every binary called Palemoon was

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread i_write_words
But you can still have your email program filter out all @gmail addresses, send them to a special folder, and decide whether to reply by landline telephone, postage stamp, or passenger pigeon instead of email. Of course that won't work for your employer or your ex-wife, but why feed the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread i_write_words
GrevenGull, would this work for your needs? https://hooktube.com/ "Share YouTube videos without giving them views. Bypass country blocks and age restrictions. Download YouTube videos and music. Keep your data private from the G. HOW: Just replace the domain in any YT link with

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> If a program is good (works as expected, doesn't spy or damage > data) and gives you freedom 0 and 1 - do you really need freedom 2 > and 3? In this case, the source code gives you all four freedoms (assuming you don't consider trademark restrictions to be an infringment), while the binaries

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread studio
> unless of course the other person uses Gmail in which case it doesn't matter That is the actual case I am talking about. You may have the perfect free, clean hardware and software, not use any spying services etc. but you have to communicate with others and others are inside a corrupt

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread studio
If a program is good (works as expected, doesn't spy or damage data) and gives you freedom 0 and 1 - do you really need freedom 2 and 3?

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread i_write_words
Yep. And let's not forget prevention of family members, as imperfect as our current technology may be. /Heather of the Trisquel Boards

Re: [Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> I would like to download the videoes, not only stream youtube-viewer can download. Some more things to try: Do the videos play properly in mpv? While this is a slightly different situation, I've found that with mps-youtube I get only audio in vlc but it works fine with mpv. Does the video

Re: [Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread svenerik_vn
Is that a package that works the same way as avideo? Downloading videos, but not if it has to run proprietary javascript?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread pierrefalek
You can also use get-flash-videos in Trisquel pakages if it works $ get_flash_video #your url# Or if you prefer open it in a browser by having the video adress $ get_flash_video --info #your url# Sometimes it asks you to choose the file.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread svenerik_vn
Does it happen with all videos? It seems so. Can you get video with mps-youtube or youtube-viewer? I would like to download the videoes, not only stream

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> He explained that he > deactivated his account Both deletion (no more account) and deactivation (the account sits waiting for you to come back) are available, but Facebook goes out of their way to lead people to deactivate rather than delete. I could not even find the deletion option in

Re: [Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
Does it happen with all videos? Can you get video with mps-youtube or youtube-viewer? It could be a DRM thing.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> Well, that is no way to make sure, now, is it? What's the license is the > question you should be asking. > > https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml > > That to me does not seem to be free software. Am I missing something? This site isn't accessible over Tor without completing one of those

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread blade . vp2020
if you wenede we can put it in uruk apt repo

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread studio
I am not an authority in FOSS or any matter. I test for myself and share. I am not selling anything. I don't even take donations.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread leestrobel
I installed the package in the Trisquel repository and, as far as I can tell, it seems to be Java EE 5. So, perhaps the Debian package is out of date (and has been carried downstream to Trisquel)? I think for now I'll probably just go with the download from the GlassFish website.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
>"Pale Moon is, and will always be, completely FREE to download and use! (Open Source and Freeware)" Well, that is no way to make sure, now, is it? What's the license is the question you should be asking. https://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml That to me does not seem to be free software.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread γραφω λογον
Joe, I feel comfortable now mentioning that just because Palemoon is Open Source doesn't mean that it is free software. Maybe someone has already linked you to this? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/po/open-source-misses-the-point.fr-en.html You take care now and keep asking those hard questions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
No idea really but same thing with the buguntu pkg -> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=glassfish-javaee I trust when they say Java EE 5, they mean Java EE 5 onwards (so that includes all the successive versions) Just a guess.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
>old data was there Which reminds of Binney when he says that metadata dousn't need that much space, even the metadata of the entire world, to get stored. Why do you think they keep building more and more of these monsters? Their motto is 'collect it ALL, so we can know it ALL'. I bet my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread studio
> I admire your persistence, mate Joe. Join me. > I don't know about Basilisk but AFAIK Palemoon is proprietary software. Is it not? Do I have to check even that? :) https://www.palemoon.org/ "Pale Moon is, and will always be, completely FREE to download and use! (Open Source and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread leestrobel
Hmm. According to the Wikipedia page, GlassFish 5.0 was released on 21st September 2017 and is compatible with Java EE 8. Unless I'm reading the package version wrongly ... but, that Debian page you linked says it is compatible with Java EE 5, which seems pretty old, if the current version

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
/me hands the solution for family member outrageous privacy disrespect to akito **solution (use it wisely)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread γραφω λογον
Much appreciated, mate, and apologies, Joe.

[Trisquel-users] Downloading videos from youtube with "$ avideo *video-url*" gives me only the sound.

2018-01-29 Thread svenerik_vn
When I download videos from youtube using the avideo *insert url here* and then play the video in VLC, only the sound is playing, no image :/ is this usual?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
They are not trolling at all. I first thought they were shilling Chromium when the thread started but indeed they are not and actually Joe is very serious about privacy issues related to Moxillacox.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
I have the same version on Stretch and this is Sid-> https://packages.debian.org/sid/glassfish-javaee So, the version you have is actually not at all old, and the latest one is not '5' or am I missing something?

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Default Keyring"

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
Pretty sure it is gnome-keyring. You need to figure a way to launch the network-manager without gnome keyring being involved. I will just copy and paste now a possible (it would appear so) fix -> First make sure libpam-gnome-keyring is installed then log out and back in. When you open

Re: [Trisquel-users] problem after this morning's update

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
Hmm, I don't know but I would guess the upgrade process messed things up for you. You would have much more info and maybe prevent this in the future if instead of using synaptic you used apt, the terminal in my experience really gives you more info on what's about to happen and the possible

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread γραφω λογον
I liked Dillo a lot back in the day and wish I had learned it well enough to know if it was still safe to use. Netsurf sounds like the best option for me and mine in an ideal world where I had time to play "family sysadmin", and I do appreciate that info, Senor Supertramp. Joe, I'm not sure if

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> Because it is stupid and futile. Yes, we should not have to give up our dignity to void being surveilled, and I'm not convinced it would work anyway.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
I admire your persistence, mate Joe. I don't know about Basilisk but AFAIK Palemoon is proprietary software. Is it not? With my current settings I get 8.7 And, again, for my own mental sake I think I'll just keep it as it is (for now). Truth be told, and I expressed such truth several

Re: [Trisquel-users] add apps to uruk repo

2018-01-29 Thread γραφω λογον
I have the exact same automatic disgust for that word/lazy noise that people who don't have enough attention span to actually use words make. English is weird and you (alimiracle) deserve to never, ever have to speak it or write it again unless you want to. Hayder's got your back as far as

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread γραφω λογον
Of course, but we all did it anyway. I had to rat out one of my own kids with the facial recognition software because mine had been "temporarily disabled" for so long that I didn't have a clue who any of the other "friends" they wanted me to identify even were. Mason, you write from a deeper

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread studio
Yesterday I watched a recent video by Lunduke. He explained that he deactivated his account long ago, asked several times for confirmation that everything was deleted and received only replies from some people forwarding him to other people. In the end he was told that this cannot be

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread leestrobel
The latest version appears to be licensed under the GPL.

[Trisquel-users] Why is the Trisquel version of GlassFish so old?

2018-01-29 Thread leestrobel
It seems that, even in the Flidas repository, the version of GlassFish that is included is extremely old. The version of the 'glassfish-javaee' package is given as 1:2.1.1. I'm not actually sure if that means version 1 or 2, but the most recent version is 5, which was released last year.

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
If it was indeed preinstalled that's a bug and you should report it. If you installed it and it failed to pull in a necessary dependency then it is also a bug and you should report it. Either way: report it. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] add apps to uruk repo

2018-01-29 Thread greatgnu
'apps' sounds so appleish and androidish. I must make sure not to use that word ever again. Program or programme if you prefer tea :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread Mason Hock
> You cannot remove anything from Facebook. It is never deleted, even after > the account is deactivated. It will stay on FB's servers and be used for all > kinds of things like facial recognition, machine learning etc. When I finally smartened up and deleted my account Facebook claimed that my

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread i_write_words
I don't know if it is a solution for every day, but since Akito is a minor I would definitely want him to use this or a mardi gras mask if he were a family member or someone else I cared about enough to want try to protect. It has seriously gotten so bad that minors are routinely

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Default Keyring"

2018-01-29 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
I think this key it asks is related to Seahorse or to the password manager you're using. I'm not sure though, it's just a guess. 2018-01-29T17:34:14+0100 dh...@fastmail.com wrote: > For some reason every time I attempt to connect to a new network I get > this "enter password for default keyring

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Default Keyring"

2018-01-29 Thread dhood
Update: I was able to connect by going into "network connections" and entering the password for the network I previously used there, this did require ignoring the same "keyring" prompt twice. Luckily, all the wifi networks are normally use are already in there...not really sure what I am

[Trisquel-users] "Default Keyring"

2018-01-29 Thread dhood
For some reason every time I attempt to connect to a new network I get this "enter password for default keyring to unlock" prompt. This would be fine, but it does not accept my system password, and I wouldn't have used two different passwords on the same system. I used to just simply reboot

Re: [Trisquel-users] problem after this morning's update

2018-01-29 Thread ciarlinip
another update: tried to open abrowser through terminal, and I got: (abrowser:6454): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 12:00:27.570: g_object_ref: assertion 'object->ref_count > 0' failed Segmentation fault Apparently this could be something related to nautilus?

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread pierrefalek
The only stupidity is not taking advantage of what people can imagine to face something : face recognition for this example. Akito has been pictured during a party and this picture have been posted on Facebook without his conscent. Right ? It could have been anyone. I'm not someone special

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Trisquel 8 taking so long

2018-01-29 Thread pierrefalek
I've installed Trisquel 8 as a double boot with Trisquel 7. There are some good things. But I'd like to tell to developers that the famous Handbreak is missing from the Trisquel 8 packages ! If it helps ?...

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread studio
> Why not have a try ? Because it is stupid and futile. You see - all this pattern of thinking about the ultimate entertainment, security through isolation, being a king etc. is the root of the problems we are facing. Yet man thinks he can escape from all this with more entertainment and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Trisquel 8 taking so long

2018-01-29 Thread pierrefalek
I recommand Parabola LXDE ISO who have an LXDE interface. If you're not easy in the use of the terminal, I don't recommand to install Arch Linux forks.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Trisquel 8 taking so long

2018-01-29 Thread svenerik_vn
There are also some four different versions to choose from: https://wiki.parabola.nu/Get_Parabola#Installing_or_trying_Parabola_from_a_LiveCD.2FDVD_or_USB_memory_stick Which one is the "most official" and the most supported by the developers?

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread pierrefalek
Well, I don't think mass surveillance is a joke. This article is actually quite serious and face recognison is used everywhere, even in the steets. Not only on Facebook. I'm an funny person. Making a surprise to the family and friends who are using a lot Facebook for trying this method can

Re: [Trisquel-users] problem after this morning's update

2018-01-29 Thread ciarlinip
update: I'm able to run seamonkey; LibreOffice is working fine as well.

[Trisquel-users] problem after this morning's update

2018-01-29 Thread ciarlinip
Hi all, I hope somebody could help me solve this situation. I logged in this morning and synaptic's update box popped up with a bunch of software update (including abrowser, kernel etc). After updating & rebooting, the following is broken: - abrowser doesn't start at all; - evolution

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread sora
> You cannot remove anything from Facebook. It is never deleted, even after the account is deactivated. It will stay on FB's servers and be used for all kinds of things like facial recognition, machine learning etc. I agree

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread studio
I don't think it is very sane to turn oneself into a clown or damage one's vision with deliberate obstructions. This won't remove mass surveillance. Remember that when you send an email the chance that on the other side of the wire there is a PRISMed system (Gmail, Yahoo etc) is huge. Did

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread pierrefalek
https://cvdazzle.com/ A solution for everyday ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread studio
> I have not read the idea of panopticon. Do it. > Are you suggesting to hide in plain sight idea? I am not suggesting anything along the lines of "do this" or "don't do that". It is important to see things for oneself and from that comes clarity and right action. > So I convinced them

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-29 Thread sora
I have not read the idea of panopticon. Are you suggesting to hide in plain sight idea? So I convinced them to remove some of my pictures but they did not remove it entirely it still shows my face and facebook's facial recognition is what I or everyone should fear.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-29 Thread studio
I don't know what to say. Maybe we should upload this to Mozilla each time they mention "privacy respect".

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why is Trisquel 8 taking so long

2018-01-29 Thread svenerik_vn
Is it possible to run Parabola live from a DVD? (I may have asked this before)

Re: [Trisquel-users] news about eoma68?

2018-01-29 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Yep that processor would definitely attract other people. Even if the idea is excellent, the actual implementation is not great. The A20 is easily available in many Soc and there are already laptop shells like the pi-top https://pi-top.com/products/pi-top where you can fit any board. So