Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-06-16 Thread hd-scania
Again, no people are forced to be stuck on Openbox with LXQt, i.e. LXQt  
grants a freedom to be flexible between different wm.
Also, you're also free to try different icon themes like Breeze and Oxygen  
from KDE, Deepin themes from Deepin (DDE), Adwaita, Menta etc from GTK+  
(that's the platform Xfce 4 is based on).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-06-16 Thread hd-scania
You would like to make your own mini ISO for Parabola / Trisquel / Hyperbola  
with Xfce desktop, Falkon (QupZilla) browser, Trojita mails, Telegram  
desktop, Quassel IRC.
In LXQt the most ugly component should be Openbox that I quite ensure, I  
agree this and you're free to switch window managers and remove Openbox (i.e.  
no people are forced to be stuck on Openbox with LXQt), this flexibility is  
just LXQt-only feature.


Re: [Trisquel-users] systemd unit for wpa_supplicant & dhclient on trisquel (Ubuntu)

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
In openrc my configuration was much simpler. I only wrote  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and added to openrc wpa_supplicand  
and dhcpcd services. So this worked without any actions from my side.


Systemd has lot of specific functions, adding services more difficult.

I tried 'Type=Simple' as somebody offered foo service in web and it did not  
work.


I tried also 'ExecStop=command1 && command2' and it caused the error when I  
stop the service.


Also I used this one I have seen in web 'WantedBy=multi-user.target' . 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread znavko

ok. I see it.

When I do not touch config `make` finishes ok. But now I switched off IrDa,  
Bluetooth, Xen drivers, Hyper-V, Fujitsu, all wifi manufacturers except my  
Atheros. And make failed with this:


 LD  arch/x86/boot/compressed/vmlinux
  ZOFFSET arch/x86/boot/zoffset.h
  OBJCOPY arch/x86/boot/vmlinux.bin
  AS  arch/x86/boot/header.o
  LD  arch/x86/boot/setup.elf
  OBJCOPY arch/x86/boot/setup.bin
  BUILD   arch/x86/boot/bzImage
Setup is 17372 bytes (padded to 17408 bytes).
System is 5424 kB
CRC 4a768971
Kernel: arch/x86/boot/bzImage is ready  (#1)
ERROR: "hci_register_dev" [ubuntu/rsi/ven_rsi_91x.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "hci_recv_frame" [ubuntu/rsi/ven_rsi_91x.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "hci_unregister_dev" [ubuntu/rsi/ven_rsi_91x.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "hci_alloc_dev" [ubuntu/rsi/ven_rsi_91x.ko] undefined!
ERROR: "hci_free_dev" [ubuntu/rsi/ven_rsi_91x.ko] undefined!
/home/user/kernel/linux-4.4.0/scripts/Makefile.modpost:91: Error execution  
operation for «__modpost»

make[2]: *** [__modpost] Error 1
/home/user/kernel/linux-4.4.0/Makefile:1153: Error execution operation for  
«modules»

make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
make[1]: exiting directory «/home/user/kernel/mybuild»
Makefile:152: Error execution operation for «sub-make»
make: *** [sub-make] Error 2

# cat /home/user/kernel/mybuild/.config | nc termbin.com 
http://termbin.com/ef1w

Please, teach me how disable unnecessary stuff knowing definitely make will  
not stop.




Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Decrypted Show Zero: Plus interview with Ruben on Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread shiretoko

Amazing, really. You seem to already have experience in being a host?
Very smooth and natural flow of conversation between you two.

You can become a better version of the linux action show... without the  
bullshit content. I would watch it and cheer for it.


I know this is a controversial topic, but did you ever consider uploading to  
youtube? It's not a very freedom-loving platform, but in order to make people  
aware of freedom issues, I think it would be very beneficial to upload it  
anyway.


Good it example: I myself become conscious about freedom in software when I  
found a video of RMS on youtube.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-06-16 Thread calmstorm
I respectfully disagree, I really don't like LXQT's interface. it is majorly  
ugly.


no offense.

XFCE should be the next mini I think.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel-Mini Desktop Environment

2018-06-16 Thread calmstorm
I used to like LXDE the most, but yeah, it was when they decided to move to  
qt5 I decided to go to xfce4.


XFCE is almost as light and supports changing desktop wallpaper depending on  
duration. That is why I use XFCE now.


That and, LXDE is going to be no longer supported... ;(

Although maybe if we are lucky someone will fork it like it happened to gnome  
2 after that was ended.


LXQT is ugly... and for me someone who doesn't usually care about graphics to  
say its ugly, it is really, really ugly.


well meh... glad XFCE still is an option. :)


[Trisquel-users] Re : systemd unit for wpa_supplicant & dhclient on trisquel (Ubuntu)

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
I am no expert in writing unit files.  However, I am pretty sure it make no  
sense to have twice "ExecStart" (or "ExecStop") and I do not think the type  
"oneshot" is right here.  Also, I believe services "After=network.target"  
expect wpa_supplicant (unless you never connect to an encrypted Wifi  
network... but, then, why not disabling wpa_supplicant?).  What is wrong with  
/lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service (the default unit)?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Decrypted Show Zero: Plus interview with Ruben on Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread J.B. Nicholson

I wrote:
- adding the URL for each episode's media file to the show's RSS feed 
http://www.freedomdecrypted.com/public_html/index.php/feed/ as an 
attachment to that feed entry. This will let people download episodes of

 the show via a feed reader.


I also recommend uploading a copy of each media file to other hosts, hosts 
that don't require JS (or at least don't require nonfree JS) to download 
the show files. I suggest getting an archive.org account and hosting copies 
there, for instance. Mirror copies can and should be added to the RSS feed 
as well as enclosures (I should have said enclosures, not attachments, above).


This benefits your audience and it helps them get copies of the show in a 
way that can increase their privacy. If you don't want to pay to host media 
files, you can also help reduce your costs with mirror copies.


And on the same ground I recommend licensing your show to share at least 
verbatim copies.


Thanks for considering these suggestions.


Re: [Trisquel-users] systemd unit for wpa_supplicant & dhclient on trisquel (Ubuntu)

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
I solved this issue. I modified service script and it starts and stops in a  
proper way. So each command must have own line ExecStart, cannot use &&.
Also `enable` was not working cause needs to put service file to  
/lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant_my.service and then generate a link.


This is how to make service works:

# cat /lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant_my.service
[Unit]
Description=Start WPA Supplicant and Dhclient
After=network.target

[Service]
Type=oneshot
RemainAfterExit=yes

ExecStart=/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0  -c  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

ExecStart=/sbin/dhclient wlp1s0

ExecStop=/usr/bin/killall -q wpa_supplicant
ExecStop=/usr/bin/killall -q dhclient

#TimeoutStartSec=5sec

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target


# systemctl link /lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant_my.service

# systemctl start wpa_supplicant_my.service

# systemctl enable wpa_supplicant_my.service

After reboot I have wifi.

# systemctl status wpa_supplicant_my.service
● wpa_supplicant_my.service - Start WPA Supplicant and Dhclient
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant_my.service; enabled;  
vendo

   Active: active (exited) since Сб 2018-06-16 23:27:02 +03; 6min ago
  Process: 985 ExecStart=/sbin/dhclient wlp1s0 (code=exited,  
status=0/SUCCESS)
  Process: 967 ExecStart=/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0 -c  
/etc/wpa_supplican

 Main PID: 985 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
   CGroup: /system.slice/wpa_supplicant_my.service
   ├─ 984 /sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0 -c  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_s

   └─1221 /sbin/dhclient wlp1s0

июн 16 23:26:57 asus systemd[1]: Starting Start WPA Supplicant and  
Dhclient...
июн 16 23:26:57 asus wpa_supplicant[967]: Successfully initialized  
wpa_supplican
июн 16 23:26:58 asus root[998]:  
/etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/avahi-autoipd r
июн 16 23:26:58 asus dhclient[985]: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.68 on wlp1s0  
to 255
июн 16 23:27:01 asus dhclient[985]: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.1.68 on wlp1s0  
to 255
июн 16 23:27:01 asus dhclient[985]: DHCPACK of 192.168.1.68 from  
192.168.1.1
июн 16 23:27:02 asus dhclient[985]: bound to 192.168.1.68 -- renewal in  
10977 se
июн 16 23:27:02 asus systemd[1]: Started Start WPA Supplicant and  
Dhclient.




The next question is: How to watch if wifi is broken and down and then make  
my service restarts?


[Trisquel-users] systemd unit for wpa_supplicant & dhclient on trisquel (Ubuntu)

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
Hello! I cannot see networkmanager's slow work. I disabled NetworkManager and  
wpa__supplicant services this way:


# systemctl disable NetworkManager
# systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online
# systemctl disable wpa_supplicant

also I deleted dnsmasq for prevent possible errors.

I connect via wpa_supplicant & dhclient usig this config and this line:

# cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=sudo
update_config=1

network={
ssid="internet"
scan_ssid=1
psk=hashlonghash
proto=RSN
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
}

# /sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0  -c  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf && /sbin/dhclient wlp1s0



Now I want to add this line to systemd. I created Unit that does not work:

# cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_my.service
[Unit]
Description=Start WPA Supplicant and Dhclient
After=network.target

[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0  -c  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf && /sbin/dhclient wlp1s0

ExecStop=/usr/bin/killall -q wpa_supplicant && /usr/bin/killall -q dhclient
#RemainAfterExit=true
#TimeoutStartSec=5sec

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target



# systemctl link /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_my.service


# systemctl start wpa_supplicant_my.service
Job for wpa_supplicant_my.service failed because the control process exited  
with error code. See "systemctl status wpa_supplicant_my.service" and  
"journalctl -xe" for details.


# systemctl status wpa_supplicant
● wpa_supplicant_my.service - Start WPA Supplicant and Dhclient
   Loaded: loaded (/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant_my.service; linked;  
vendor preset: enabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Сб 2018-06-16 22:41:26 +03; 14s  
ago
  Process: 1412 ExecStop=/usr/bin/killall -q wpa_supplicant &&  
/usr/bin/killall -q dhclient (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
  Process: 1409 ExecStart=/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0 -c  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf && /sbin/dhclient wlp1s0  
(code=exited, status=

 Main PID: 1409 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

июн 16 22:41:26 asus systemd[1]: Starting Start WPA Supplicant and  
Dhclient...
июн 16 22:41:26 asus wpa_supplicant[1409]: Successfully initialized  
wpa_supplicant
июн 16 22:41:26 asus systemd[1]: wpa_supplicant_my.service: Control  
process exited, code=exited status=1
июн 16 22:41:26 asus systemd[1]: Failed to start Start WPA Supplicant and  
Dhclient.
июн 16 22:41:26 asus systemd[1]: wpa_supplicant_my.service: Unit entered  
failed state.
июн 16 22:41:26 asus systemd[1]: wpa_supplicant_my.service: Failed with  
result 'exit-code'.




# systemctl enable wpa_supplicant_my.service
Failed to execute operation: Too many levels of symbolic links


# /sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0  -c  
/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf && /sbin/dhclient wlp1s0

Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant

# ps -aux | grep -e wpa -e dhclient
root  1405  0.0  0.0  26108  3456 pts/0T22:41   0:00 systemctl  
status wpa_supplicant_my
root  1461  0.0  0.0  52476  3140 ?Ss   22:44   0:00  
/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
root  1563  0.0  0.0  16124   860 ?Ss   22:44   0:00  
/sbin/dhclient wlp1s0
root  1565  0.0  0.0  14188   928 pts/0S+   22:44   0:00 grep  
--color=auto -e wpa -e dhclient


# systemctl stop wpa_supplicant_my

# ps -aux | grep -e wpa -e dhclient
root  1405  0.0  0.0  26108  3456 pts/0T22:41   0:00 systemctl  
status wpa_supplicant_my
root  1461  0.0  0.0  52476  3140 ?Ss   22:44   0:00  
/sbin/wpa_supplicant -B -i wlp1s0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
root  1563  0.0  0.0  16124   860 ?Ss   22:44   0:00  
/sbin/dhclient wlp1s0
root  1569  0.0  0.0  14188  1092 pts/0S+   22:44   0:00 grep  
--color=auto -e wpa -e dhclient



Please, why it does not enable with error: Failed to execute operation: Too  
many levels of symbolic links ???

Why it does not kill processes when stops and why id does not start?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread jason
Well, you can see the difference right? As you compare line by line they're  
not identical: One has Flidas Main and Security. The other has Flidas Main,  
Security,  and Updates.


Re: [Trisquel-users] DD'ing the Live DVD to the internal hard disk is good for public computers.

2018-06-16 Thread cochranizer316
That's correct, yes. But that's on the hard disk, though...saving to the USB  
drive will still save you your files.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

2018-06-16 Thread greatgnu

Bella Lena


[Trisquel-users] Re : Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
Some configurations are indeed incorrect.  As I already wrote, you want to  
use make's "jobs" (-j) option.  For instance:

$ make -j 5
The more cores you have, the highest the argument can be (in it a number of  
source files compiled in parallel).


[Trisquel-users] Re : DD'ing the Live DVD to the internal hard disk is good for public computers.

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
Unless I miss something, the command you proposed neither allows to save user  
files (including the configuration of the application) nor to permanently  
install applications.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
Trisquel as Ubuntu clone is user-friendly but is not good optimized. Please,  
any info you'll get will be quiet useful.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread znavko

-2nd laptop--

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# deb cdrom:[Trisquel 8.0 _flidas_ - Release amd64 (20180417)]/ flidas main

# Trisquel repositories for supported software and updates
deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas main
deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas main
deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas-security main
deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas-security main
deb https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas-updates main
deb-src https://archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/ flidas-updates main
# deb http://mirrors.serverhost.ro/trisquel/packages flidas-backports main
# deb-src http://mirrors.serverhost.ro/trisquel/packages flidas-backports  
main


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
Hello! I tried to compile linux-source-4.4.0 without any changes, resting  
config as it was there.


# make menuconfig
...without any changes I saved .config
# make

it worked ok. So now I try again to make with no bluetooth and no irda.

Every time I have difficult to understand why Xen, Android, Fujitsu,  
Miscrosoft Hyper-V and many other stuff are there. When I switching off all I  
see as unnecessary the make breaks. `make` takes 10 hours for my asus x552e.   



Re: [Trisquel-users] DD'ing the Live DVD to the internal hard disk is good for public computers.

2018-06-16 Thread cochranizer316
Not unless you are carrying a USB drive, then you won't need the cloud  
anyway.


[Trisquel-users] Re : DD'ing the Live DVD to the internal hard disk is good for public computers.

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
Nowadays it is called a live system.  I very much people like carrying phones  
with an external drive plugged in.  I am also afraid you are suggesting  
having all user files in a "cloud" (the 'dd' command you propose does not  
provide persistent storage).  Terrible for privacy.


Re: [Trisquel-users] DD'ing the Live DVD to the internal hard disk is good for public computers.

2018-06-16 Thread cochranizer316
In my opinion, ALL computers, tablets and phones should be diskless, like the  
Raspberry Pi, no matter what the chipset is. If you buy a computer, tablet or  
phone, it should come with an external disk, with your choice of a Free OS on  
it. No internal pre-installed garbage, easy to transfer to another device of  
any kind.


After all, this is what computers USED to be like in the early 80's right?  
With their floppy disks?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread jason

Check your sources.list. They don't seem to be identical.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread gnuser
I just ran some tests, with a clock timer and systemd-analyze. Here are the  
results.


No battery on laptop, only straight AC power outlet
systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 10.333s (kernel) + 26.091s (userspace) = 36.425s
My clock counts 58 seconds (including the time it takes for me to type the 2  
passwords)


Battery only at 8%, no AC power outlet in
systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 11.084s (kernel) + 26.310s (userspace) = 37.395s
My clock 59 seconds (again including the time it takes for me to type the  
passwords)



I swear I don't understand why it was giving me the time of 1 minute and some  
seconds before in systemd-analyze. Right now I get these consistent times in  
both systemd-analyze and real life time clock.
Well, in face of this, I would say that it's the best I will ever get without  
changing to an SSD. I will still try to disable some stuff, maybe it will get  
better or not, but I don't want services that are NOT needed running for  
nothing.


Thanks everyone anyway, I will let you guys know if something new comes up.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread gnuser

I just ran systemd-analyze again and got this
Startup finished in 11.289s (kernel) + 30.593s (userspace) = 41.882s

Wtf?
The only thing I noticed different was that I was not running the laptop on  
battery but straight for the AC outlet. Does that even matter? I guess I will  
have to give it a few tests and see what is happening really.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread gnuser
Would disabling some of those services prevent the booting of the system? As  
long as I can "systemctl disable / systemctl enable" I am okay with that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread gnuser
What would help then? Is there anything that can make the kernel load faster,  
or the only option is a)replacing the kernel b)buying SSD ?


Also, if you can offer some input to the questions I posed below, I would be  
very grateful (meaning the Ofono service and such).  Thanks.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
The kernel loads before the service.  So disabling services will not speedup  
the time to load the kernel.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does wpa_supplicant presents in my system?

2018-06-16 Thread enduzzer

https://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/plain/wpa_supplicant/README

WPA Supplicant
==

Copyright (c) 2003-2017, Jouni Malinen  and contributors
All Rights Reserved.

This program is licensed under the BSD license (the one with
advertisement clause removed).

If you are submitting changes to the project, please see CONTRIBUTIONS
file for more instructions.



License
---

This software may be distributed, used, and modified under the terms of
BSD license:

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met:

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.

2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
   documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

3. Neither the name(s) of the above-listed copyright holder(s) nor the
   names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products
   derived from this software without specific prior written permission.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS
"AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT
LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR
A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT
OWNER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL,
SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT
LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE,
DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY
THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT
(INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE
OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.




[Trisquel-users] Re : Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
You can either search the Web or just "systemctl disable" the service and  
see.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Why does wpa_supplicant presents in my system?

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
As loldier says: wpa_supplicant is free software.  As all software in  
Trisquel's repository.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
I cannot know exactly cause I see names there for a first time now: gdomap,  
irqbalance, acpid, atd, setvtrgb, remote-fs-pre, nss-user-lookup.


You should have rescue usb flash to boot with it, to mount broken system
and reconfigure it.


disabling ofono, openvpn is ok. disabling avahi is ok too  
https://ccm.net/faq/739-disabling-the-avahi-daemon


Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does wpa_supplicant presents in my system?

2018-06-16 Thread enduzzer

BSD license is a permissive free license.

LEGAL
   wpa_supplicant  is copyright (c) 2003-2016, Jouni Malinen  and
   contributors.  All Rights Reserved.

   This program is licensed under the BSD license (the one with  
advertise‐

   ment clause removed).


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread gnuser

Ok, so, running systemctl list-units I noticed some things:

ofono.service   loaded active running   oFono Mobile telephony stack
openvpn.service   loaded active exitedOpenVPN service
avahi-daemon.socket  loaded active running   Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack Acti

As far as I am aware, I don't use Mobile phone in my computer, neither do I  
use VPN (I tried using BitMask but it leaks DNS, so for now I don't use it)  
and I think avahi is meant for using network printers which I don't have. So,  
it should be ok to disable these right?
I mean, it's not like these are in the critical chain MagicBanana mentioned,  
but I guess having less stuff running would not be bad either way, right? The  
thing is, am I considering it right? I couldn't find much information online  
about Ofono for example.
How can one know what each entry on the list-units option does? Which ones  
are essential and which ones are not?

Thanks.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Speed up boot process of Trisquel 8

2018-06-16 Thread znavko
you know I disabled tor service and tor@default service and my systemd says  
this:


# systemd-analyze
Startup finished in 13.233s (kernel) + 2.998s (userspace) = 16.231s

This means minus 16 seconds from userspace as in my previous post. Now I  
search how to move this and other services loading to later time after I see  
login page to speed up boot.


kernel loads very slowly 13 seconds is far from best. needs to learn which  
services are unnecessary like CUPS (printer), openvpn and so on from here  
`systemctl list-units`





Re: [Trisquel-users] Why does wpa_supplicant presents in my system?

2018-06-16 Thread znavko

thank you. Is there any free alternative?


[Trisquel-users] Re : Why does wpa_supplicant presents in my system?

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf

You can use the "Synaptic Package Manager" or, in a terminal:
$ sudo apt remove wpasupplicant

... but I very much doubt you want to remove your ability to connect to  
encrypted Wifi networks!  That is what the package provides.  NetworkManager  
relies on it.  And alternative to NetworkManager is Wicd, which depends as  
well on wpa_supplicant.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
Just run the 'make' command again.  It will not relaunch the compilation of  
what has already been compiled (in particular, it will not compile anything  
if it has already compiled everything).


[Trisquel-users] Re : Let me several questions about kernel compilation?

2018-06-16 Thread lcerf
What error?  If it is a segmentation error, it may be a hardware issue.  I  
would check the RAM with "memtest86+" (in Trisquel's repository, to be  
launched from the bootloader; let it run a whole night).


[Trisquel-users] Why does wpa_supplicant presents in my system?

2018-06-16 Thread znavko

Hello! I discovered this

# systemctl list-units
...
wpa_supplicant.serviceloaded active running   WPA  
supplicant

...

# LANG=en_US apt-get remove wpa_supplicant
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package wpa_supplicant


# whereis wpa_supplicant
wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant /etc/wpa_supplicant  
/usr/share/man/man8/wpa_supplicant.8.gz



# (zcat $(ls -tr /var/log/apt/history.log*.gz); cat /var/log/apt/history.log)  
2>/dev/null | egrep '^(Commandline: apt(-get)? install)' | grep -v aptdaemon  
| egrep '^Commandline:' | grep wpa

...showed nothing...


May be I  installed it manually?

But now I want to find free alternative that will be faster then  
NetworkManager and free unlike as wpa_supplicant.


Please, how to remove package wpa_supplicant at all? 


Re: [Trisquel-users] DD'ing the Live DVD to the internal hard disk is good for public computers.

2018-06-16 Thread xliang9550
My lab's public workstations are diskless. Users bring their HDD or SSD and  
connect them to the eSATA port.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

2018-06-16 Thread znavko

Vivi, Dina, Meela, Sally, Polina, Bela, Leya